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I've been very confused about which course I could take (even after results day!). Initially I wanted to do pharmacy but recently my mind began switching to engineering. My parents say pharmacy is a solid career choice. Not to mention i've asked quite a few people (nurses, pharmacists, head of A&E ) if it's a good profession and pretty much they have said good things about it.

The opposite views are found online though. For the most part it's negative and people keep saying how it's not worth it (despite people in real life saying the complete opposite). Can someone who's actually done pharmacy give a true, unbiased (may not be possible lol) view on pharmacy and if it's well paid.

The degree is interesting but at the end of the day I do want a job with decent pay. I achieved AAA in my A-levels if that's any help.
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There is no solid, 100% true for absolutely everybody answer to the question "is Pharmacy a solid career choice for me?"

Note the bolded and underlined. I know Pharmacists who love their jobs and are absolutely suited to the role... just as I also know Pharmacists who see the job as a means to and end and/or are planning their escape *coughs* because, underneath that friendly, professional demeanor, they are working a job which is slowly sucking the life out of them because it's a career path they aren't suited to. Believe me, if you don't gel with the nature of the profession, it can be very soul sucking indeed.

That said, when people are negative about Pharmacy here, it doesn't mean "you absolutely shouldn't do it", rather, what it means is "you absolutely should take these points into consideration before doing it". I know that's not always clear in the tone of posts. Firstly...

view on pharmacy and if it's well paid.
If you want a well-paying job, Pharmacy isn't the way to go. While it is still a decent, secure wage, there is a glass ceiling on how much most people in the profession earn. In community, you can expect a starting salary of 30-35K, rising up to around 40K, give or take. Hospital rates are similar, with maybe a little better earning prospects if you can snag a senior role. Again, not an awful salary on paper, but people often forget to consider what the job entails. In community at least, you are often expected to be a healthcare professional and store manager, perform a wide array of services, make sure all the paperwork is done, skip your lunchbreaks, stay behind after closing to make sure everything is finished (because you, and you alone, will be held responsible for the safe, effective and lawful running of the Pharmacy), deal with the general public - and not to mention Pharmacists can still technically be criminally prosecuted for mistakes (albeit this is rare). Even so, you have to be prepared that an error in your judgement could lead to serious harm or death. If you consider the responsibility of other jobs with similar pay, Pharmacy isn't exactly what I would call a cushy deal.

I'm aware this is anecdotal, but it bears saying: From what I've noticed when I look at people who have left the profession, they tend to be on the more intelligent, driven and/or capable end of the scale. To me at least, this indicates that Pharmacy simply isn't a competitive enough profession to keep those with high potential. If someone is smart enough to get into Pharmacy, there is a good chance they are smart enough to do a range of other things; if you don't like your job, don't feel it pays enough, but have the option of doing something better paying, more intellectually rewarding, and/or less demanding, wouldn't you? (Mind, this is true of a lot of careers).

Of course, that isn't to say that every intelligent, driven, and/or capable Pharmacist leaves - I actually think a lot of people in this category stay. I think there is one distinguishing factor at play: Sincere enjoyment of the job. In truth, I know Pharmacists who love the role and wouldn't change it for the world. Despite all the gripes you might read about on this forum.

One thing to think about - when people advocate the profession with things like "it's a solid career choice" and "it's a really rewarding job", do they actually qualify as to why those statements are true? This isn't me trying to imply these are empty statements - I do believe there are a whole array of answers to these statements - but I would be very skeptical of advice from people who can state that Pharmacy is a great career choice, but can't state why that is. Again, I will emphasize it can be a rewarding career in many respects, but there are a lot of people out there who will wax lyrical about the many wonders of Pharmacy without really hitting a single solid point. You need to be wary of these people.

Ultimately, I think you need to figure out the various postives and negatives of the role and how they stack up against your own wants and ambitions in life. Some people just want a solid job with stable pay. Some people want the flexibility of locuming. Some people want a job which allows them to interact with people in a meaningful way. Some people find the subject of how diseases are medicated genuinely fascinating. Some people want to work in a hands-on clinical setting, specializing in a particular area of medicine. For many, these factors outweigh many of the negatives you have read about.

(Another thing to bear in mind this there is a lot of concern about job prospects in the profession. In short, schools have opened very rapidly in the past 10 years and funding to Pharmacy has just been slashed. As such, there is real concern about there being enough jobs to go around as graduates start to outweigh available positions - I don't know the future, so I could be remiss in pointing this out, but it is certainly within the realm of possibility. Of course, if you have your heart set on Pharmac, you should still do it - because chances are you will work hard and be perfectly fine - but it's something all prospective students should definitely consider).
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There is no solid, 100% true for absolutely everybody answer to the question "is Pharmacy a solid career choice for me?"

Note the bolded and underlined. I know Pharmacists who love their jobs and are absolutely suited to the role... just as I also know Pharmacists who see the job as a means to and end and/or are planning their escape *coughs* because, underneath that friendly, professional demeanor, they are working a job which is slowly sucking the life out of them because it's a career path they aren't suited to. Believe me, if you don't gel with the nature of the profession, it can be very soul sucking indeed.

That said, when people are negative about Pharmacy here, it doesn't mean "you absolutely shouldn't do it", rather, what it means is "you absolutely should take these points into consideration before doing it". I know that's not always clear in the tone of posts. Firstly...



If you want a well-paying job, Pharmacy isn't the way to go. While it is still a decent, secure wage, there is a glass ceiling on how much most people in the profession earn. In community, you can expect a starting salary of 30-35K, rising up to around 40K, give or take. Hospital rates are similar, with maybe a little better earning prospects if you can snag a senior role. Again, not an awful salary on paper, but people often forget to consider what the job entails. In community at least, you are often expected to be a healthcare professional and store manager, perform a wide array of services, make sure all the paperwork is done, skip your lunchbreaks, stay behind after closing to make sure everything is finished (because you, and you alone, will be held responsible for the safe, effective and lawful running of the Pharmacy), deal with the general public - and not to mention Pharmacists can still technically be criminally prosecuted for mistakes (albeit this is rare). Even so, you have to be prepared that an error in your judgement could lead to serious harm or death. If you consider the responsibility of other jobs with similar pay, Pharmacy isn't exactly what I would call a cushy deal.

I'm aware this is anecdotal, but it bears saying: From what I've noticed when I look at people who have left the profession, they tend to be on the more intelligent, driven and/or capable end of the scale. To me at least, this indicates that Pharmacy simply isn't a competitive enough profession to keep those with high potential. If someone is smart enough to get into Pharmacy, there is a good chance they are smart enough to do a range of other things; if you don't like your job, don't feel it pays enough, but have the option of doing something better paying, more intellectually rewarding, and/or less demanding, wouldn't you? (Mind, this is true of a lot of careers).

Of course, that isn't to say that every intelligent, driven, and/or capable Pharmacist leaves - I actually think a lot of people in this category stay. I think there is one distinguishing factor at play: Sincere enjoyment of the job. In truth, I know Pharmacists who love the role and wouldn't change it for the world. Despite all the gripes you might read about on this forum.

One thing to think about - when people advocate the profession with things like "it's a solid career choice" and "it's a really rewarding job", do they actually qualify as to why those statements are true? This isn't me trying to imply these are empty statements - I do believe there are a whole array of answers to these statements - but I would be very skeptical of advice from people who can state that Pharmacy is a great career choice, but can't state why that is. Again, I will emphasize it can be a rewarding career in many respects, but there are a lot of people out there who will wax lyrical about the many wonders of Pharmacy without really hitting a single solid point. You need to be wary of these people.

Ultimately, I think you need to figure out the various postives and negatives of the role and how they stack up against your own wants and ambitions in life. Some people just want a solid job with stable pay. Some people want the flexibility of locuming. Some people want a job which allows them to interact with people in a meaningful way. Some people find the subject of how diseases are medicated genuinely fascinating. Some people want to work in a hands-on clinical setting, specializing in a particular area of medicine. For many, these factors outweigh many of the negatives you have read about.

(Another thing to bear in mind this there is a lot of concern about job prospects in the profession. In short, schools have opened very rapidly in the past 10 years and funding to Pharmacy has just been slashed. As such, there is real concern about there being enough jobs to go around as graduates start to outweigh available positions - I don't know the future, so I could be remiss in pointing this out, but it is certainly within the realm of possibility. Of course, if you have your heart set on Pharmac, you should still do it - because chances are you will work hard and be perfectly fine - but it's something all prospective students should definitely consider).
Thank you for your answer, it was really helpful.
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There is no solid, 100% true for absolutely everybody answer to the question "is Pharmacy a solid career choice for me?"

Note the bolded and underlined. I know Pharmacists who love their jobs and are absolutely suited to the role... just as I also know Pharmacists who see the job as a means to and end and/or are planning their escape *coughs* because, underneath that friendly, professional demeanor, they are working a job which is slowly sucking the life out of them because it's a career path they aren't suited to. Believe me, if you don't gel with the nature of the profession, it can be very soul sucking indeed.

That said, when people are negative about Pharmacy here, it doesn't mean "you absolutely shouldn't do it", rather, what it means is "you absolutely should take these points into consideration before doing it". I know that's not always clear in the tone of posts. Firstly...



If you want a well-paying job, Pharmacy isn't the way to go. While it is still a decent, secure wage, there is a glass ceiling on how much most people in the profession earn. In community, you can expect a starting salary of 30-35K, rising up to around 40K, give or take. Hospital rates are similar, with maybe a little better earning prospects if you can snag a senior role. Again, not an awful salary on paper, but people often forget to consider what the job entails. In community at least, you are often expected to be a healthcare professional and store manager, perform a wide array of services, make sure all the paperwork is done, skip your lunchbreaks, stay behind after closing to make sure everything is finished (because you, and you alone, will be held responsible for the safe, effective and lawful running of the Pharmacy), deal with the general public - and not to mention Pharmacists can still technically be criminally prosecuted for mistakes (albeit this is rare). Even so, you have to be prepared that an error in your judgement could lead to serious harm or death. If you consider the responsibility of other jobs with similar pay, Pharmacy isn't exactly what I would call a cushy deal.

I'm aware this is anecdotal, but it bears saying: From what I've noticed when I look at people who have left the profession, they tend to be on the more intelligent, driven and/or capable end of the scale. To me at least, this indicates that Pharmacy simply isn't a competitive enough profession to keep those with high potential. If someone is smart enough to get into Pharmacy, there is a good chance they are smart enough to do a range of other things; if you don't like your job, don't feel it pays enough, but have the option of doing something better paying, more intellectually rewarding, and/or less demanding, wouldn't you? (Mind, this is true of a lot of careers).

Of course, that isn't to say that every intelligent, driven, and/or capable Pharmacist leaves - I actually think a lot of people in this category stay. I think there is one distinguishing factor at play: Sincere enjoyment of the job. In truth, I know Pharmacists who love the role and wouldn't change it for the world. Despite all the gripes you might read about on this forum.

One thing to think about - when people advocate the profession with things like "it's a solid career choice" and "it's a really rewarding job", do they actually qualify as to why those statements are true? This isn't me trying to imply these are empty statements - I do believe there are a whole array of answers to these statements - but I would be very skeptical of advice from people who can state that Pharmacy is a great career choice, but can't state why that is. Again, I will emphasize it can be a rewarding career in many respects, but there are a lot of people out there who will wax lyrical about the many wonders of Pharmacy without really hitting a single solid point. You need to be wary of these people.

Ultimately, I think you need to figure out the various postives and negatives of the role and how they stack up against your own wants and ambitions in life. Some people just want a solid job with stable pay. Some people want the flexibility of locuming. Some people want a job which allows them to interact with people in a meaningful way. Some people find the subject of how diseases are medicated genuinely fascinating. Some people want to work in a hands-on clinical setting, specializing in a particular area of medicine. For many, these factors outweigh many of the negatives you have read about.

(Another thing to bear in mind this there is a lot of concern about job prospects in the profession. In short, schools have opened very rapidly in the past 10 years and funding to Pharmacy has just been slashed. As such, there is real concern about there being enough jobs to go around as graduates start to outweigh available positions - I don't know the future, so I could be remiss in pointing this out, but it is certainly within the realm of possibility. Of course, if you have your heart set on Pharmac, you should still do it - because chances are you will work hard and be perfectly fine - but it's something all prospective students should definitely consider).
Agree 100%
My m8 not had pay rise since 2008 !
Do a gap yr and apply for med
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I've been very confused about which course I could take (even after results day!). Initially I wanted to do pharmacy but recently my mind began switching to engineering. My parents say pharmacy is a solid career choice. Not to mention i've asked quite a few people (nurses, pharmacists, head of A&E ) if it's a good profession and pretty much they have said good things about it.

The opposite views are found online though. For the most part it's negative and people keep saying how it's not worth it (despite people in real life saying the complete opposite). Can someone who's actually done pharmacy give a true, unbiased (may not be possible lol) view on pharmacy and if it's well paid.

The degree is interesting but at the end of the day I do want a job with decent pay. I achieved AAA in my A-levels if that's any help.

Problem with Pharmacy, is that its not WORTH all the time and effort in takes when you look at the pay and expected hours/working conditions.

The average salary for a pharmcist is about £35K - which isnt great, its not bad pay, but nowhere near what they deserve for the work and responsibility, not to mention very hard studying and training that goes with it. Also you have to remeber that as bad as the pharmacy situation is now, its only going to get worse and time goes on. Its oversaturated with roughly 3000 newly qualified pharmacists every year. There simply aren't enough pharmacy jobs for everyone, which is why their pay keeps dropping - those who settle for the lowest salary will get the job. Every year the oversaturation increases and the NHS gets hit with cuts, the pharmacy sector is ALWAYS affected by these cuts.

10 years ago it WAS a solid career with good pay and lots of potential. Now its simply not worth it. With your grades, you could easily get into OPtometry, which is less stressful, shorter degree, with similar salary to Pharmacy, less liability and headache.
Or you mentioned egineering. Egineering is a far better choice imo.
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Studying Pharmacy creates different options you can choose to work in the industry and you may choose to be self dependent and open your own pharmacy. Don't let the pay discourage you, If you truly like the course go for it.
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Studying Pharmacy creates different options you can choose to work in the industry and you may choose to be self dependent and open your own pharmacy. Don't let the pay discourage you, If you truly like the course go for it.

Opening own pharmacy very difficult unless you have rich parents.
Industry very very hard to get into.

Yes, course is interesting, but thinking about what you will be doing 5 to 10 yrs later is also very important ! And I think this is where most 6th formers DON'T ! They miss a grade, can't do Medicine so think, "oh. i'll just do pharmacy then."
I know! That's exactly what I did.
You need to think about the course , yes, but then you need to think about where it will take you in 5/10/15 yrs. It's no good doing pharmacy if you really really wanted to be a dentist, or a doctor or whatever.
I'm seeing people on here accepting a place via clearing then coming on here and asking about the course, and how hard is it, and what work do you have to do, etc etc
Who on earth just picks something without even researching it, paying 9k a yr for it, then comes on TSR to find out about it. If they haven't got a clue about the course, what do they know about career prospects, or what's happening in pharmacy in the real world? Like the cuts and the government wanting to close pharmacies saying there are too many. That's just silly.
I know. I nearly did Chemistry with Business studies via clearing 'just to do something'
Luckily after visiting the uni and seeing the place and the accommodation, I went home, cried all night and withdrew in the morning and signed up to another A level.

Do your own research. Don't make any hasty decisions . You're gonna work till you're 70! What's one year when you're 18 or 19 ?!?!?
Have a gap year, have a think, look into stuff, get a pub job to tide you over. Something, anything. Just don't do pharmacy unless you really have found out about it and WANT to be a pharmacist. Yes, there are many career opportunities , there are also 3000 graduates a year. And a lot of pharmacists in their 40s and 50s who aren't retiring yet. You do the Math, as the yanks say!!
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