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I think what worries me is the tests like GAMSAT and my science knowledge for them but I guess if arts graduates haven’t had a lot of science since potentially GCSE I could be okay.
It involves a lot of hard work. It's up to you to decide if it's worth a shot.
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Hey! It's good to meet you. Its difficult breaching that conversation with the rest of the team. I'm hoping to ask a member of my current MDT to write my reference, though it depends if you work with the medical teams in your job.

Regarding opportunities, I agree wih your point. It does feel unfair to lead your team on a false pretence ton vest the time in you with training or whatever. But at the same time, you will need these skills to enhance your practice as a physio or a doctor, even if you are looking to move up a band. I would argue that you would both benefit from giving you more opportunities.

I'm limited to London unis atm so it will be kings (alma mater) and st georges. I haven't got a chemistry a level so im planning on doing it over the next year. That way, it should improve my scope to barts and may allow me to get into the 5 year course, if all fails.
I agree with you, I have spoken to the doctors that I am working with and they have agreed to do my reference, and I have spoken to my seniors but I am yet to speak to my manager because I want to feel 100% certain about where I am applying to (so I can check exactly what they want for a reference) and to revise UKCAT a bit before I do this... I just don't want to bypass any opportunities before they have arisen because of this, given how competitive GEM is. My ultimate goal is to go into medicine, I think it's more of a case of when. I would love to be going in 2020.

The London Unis sound very good, especially with the number of specialist hospitals in London. How long have you been working as a physiotherapist? I qualified in 2017 and have been working for just over a year It's nice to meet a fellow physio on here!
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Hi all,

I am just searching online for some answers. Currently live in Sheffield and looking at the Universities near to me that do the GEM course (Nottingham etc)

I have no background in sciences, my A levels were in Advanced Business and my BA is in Business.

I would like to do the 4 year GEM course, I understand it is a 4 year course, then 2 years working in the hospitals and then I could specialise.

I am wondering where to start and what exams I need to pass in order to even apply? When can I take these exams?

Is it universal where I just have to come up with the first £3,750 or so for year 1 and then I would be allowed to get funding for the rest of the the first year and the next 3 years? Would I also be allowed money to pay living costs?

I am 36, are there people of all ages on the GEM courses?

I am just wondering where to start and if I could start the course in 2019 (with all things going well, passing the exams and actually getting an offer in such a difficult industry)

Any advice from someone who has done it would be much appreciated.

Can anyone recommend a univerisity that has done it this way?

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(Original post by mjh2222)
Hi all,

I am just searching online for some answers. Currently live in Sheffield and looking at the Universities near to me that do the GEM course (Nottingham etc)

I have no background in sciences, my A levels were in Advanced Business and my BA is in Business.

I would like to do the 4 year GEM course, I understand it is a 4 year course, then 2 years working in the hospitals and then I could specialise.

I am wondering where to start and what exams I need to pass in order to even apply? When can I take these exams?

Is it universal where I just have to come up with the first £3,750 or so for year 1 and then I would be allowed to get funding for the rest of the the first year and the next 3 years? Would I also be allowed money to pay living costs?

I am 36, are there people of all ages on the GEM courses?

I am just wondering where to start and if I could start the course in 2019 (with all things going well, passing the exams and actually getting an offer in such a difficult industry)

Any advice from someone who has done it would be much appreciated.

Can anyone recommend a univerisity that has done it this way?

Kind regards,
Matt
You have asked a lot of questions to which all the answers can be found by using Google.

In a nutshell:
- BMAT, UKCAT, GAMSAT (not all - only the ones you need).
- Yes and Yes.
- Yes.
- No. To start in 2019 you needed to have submitted your application by the 15th October this year. Unless you want to apply to the University of Buckingham (who may have closed their applications by now but check), you're looking at 2020 entry.
- There are several which you could apply to given that you don't have a science background.
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Hey guys I'm also applying for Graduate Entry Medicine for 2020!

I'm a BSc Biochemistry student currently in second year and I work part time (although at this point it's basically full time haha) in a care home for people with learning disabilities. I'm also applying for some work experience at an infectious disease unit at my local hospital. My A Levels were very mediocre (BCC in psychology, chemistry and biology) so I'm hoping that won't hinder me too much!

I'm looking to apply to Kings, Warwick, Nottingham and Newcastle and I've started preparing for the UKCAT and will start studying for GAMSAT in the new year.

Good luck everyone! <3
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Hey guys I'm also applying for Graduate Entry Medicine for 2020!

I'm a BSc Biochemistry student currently in second year and I work part time (although at this point it's basically full time haha) in a care home for people with learning disabilities. I'm also applying for some work experience at an infectious disease unit at my local hospital. My A Levels were very mediocre (BCC in psychology, chemistry and biology) so I'm hoping that won't hinder me too much!

I'm looking to apply to Kings, Warwick, Nottingham and Newcastle and I've started preparing for the UKCAT and will start studying for GAMSAT in the new year.

Good luck everyone! <3
Very keen to have started UKCAT prep already!
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Very keen to have started UKCAT prep already!
Hahah, I just feel like I need all the practice I can get! UKCAT/GAMSAT are my biggest worries in this whole process.
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I am looking to try to do medicine in a couple if years but my BSc is not really applicable (Marine Biology). I want to do a MSc to improve my chances, what would be good recommendations? I eventually want to specialise in pathology.
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I am looking to try to do medicine in a couple if years but my BSc is not really applicable (Marine Biology). I want to do a MSc to improve my chances, what would be good recommendations? I eventually want to specialise in pathology.
My degree is in Computer Science. A lot of graduate entry medicine courses do not require you to have a specific degree so I really wouldn't spend time taking an MSc that isn't a necessary requirement (also that's very expensive!). Just study for the GAMSAT and/or UKCAT and get some work experience Check entry requirements for specific universities. I'm applying to Swansea, Nottingham, Warwick and Newcastle or St George's (haven't decided on that last one) and they'll happily take me with good enough scores in the GAMSAT/UKCAT, a good interview etc.
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Thanks for your reply I should have mentioned in my OP, I got a high 2.2 in my degree (I have recently been diagnosed with severe ADHD, so struggled a lot during uni!), so I want to make my application as strong as possible. I am already volunteering at a hospital and will hopefully be doing a week shadowing with a pathologist at some point. I also work in a pathology lab for a pharmaceutical company.

I think an MSC would greatly increase my chances, but I am struggling to determine what would be the best subject :/
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Thanks for your reply I should have mentioned in my OP, I got a high 2.2 in my degree (I have recently been diagnosed with severe ADHD, so struggled a lot during uni!), so I want to make my application as strong as possible. I am already volunteering at a hospital and will hopefully be doing a week shadowing with a pathologist at some point. I also work in a pathology lab for a pharmaceutical company.

I think an MSC would greatly increase my chances, but I am struggling to determine what would be the best subject :/
With a 2.2 your only option afaik is Nottingham and you need a good gamsat score. A MSc will increase your options. If you want to do Pathology ultimately it would make sense to do an MSc in it, then it would help your career path.
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Thanks for your reply I should have mentioned in my OP, I got a high 2.2 in my degree (I have recently been diagnosed with severe ADHD, so struggled a lot during uni!), so I want to make my application as strong as possible. I am already volunteering at a hospital and will hopefully be doing a week shadowing with a pathologist at some point. I also work in a pathology lab for a pharmaceutical company.

I think an MSC would greatly increase my chances, but I am struggling to determine what would be the best subject :/
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With a 2.2 your only option afaik is Nottingham and you need a good gamsat score. A MSc will increase your options. If you want to do Pathology ultimately it would make sense to do an MSc in it, then it would help your career path.
I think George’s accept 2:2 as well I’m doing an MSc in Clinical Anatomy and it’s brilliant!
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I think George’s accept 2:2 as well I’m doing an MSc in Clinical Anatomy and it’s brilliant!
Not anymore. At least not without a postgraduate degree.
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Not anymore. At least not without a postgraduate degree.
Ah ok! Thanks for correcting me - I’m not very familiar with George’s
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Thanks for everyone's replies! I've looked into anatomy Msc's but unfortunately the only universities that do it are very far away . I've looked into tropical diseases/Molecular Medicine/immunology courses as they are very few that only do pathology as a MSc.

(Original post by mariam_m72)
Hi, if anyone's interested in the des o'neil pdf's, I'm selling all of them. I recently sat the GAMSAT and they were definitely the most invaluable resource for me because they're so comprehensive in what they cover, yet still get to the point. They also include loads of actual mock tests for each section which are really helpful.

I wouldn't recommend the Gold Standard textbook in my opinion it's just loads of waffle and it goes into unnecessary detail which can be quite overwhelming.
If anyone's interested feel free to send me a message!
How much would you be looking for?
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Thanks for everyone's replies! I've looked into anatomy Msc's but unfortunately the only universities that do it are very far away . I've looked into tropical diseases/Molecular Medicine/immunology courses as they are very few that only do pathology as a MSc.



How much would you be looking for?
I'll send you a message!
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Hi everyone, I wanted to know if anyone here has applied for graduate medcine at Oxford, Kings or St Georges?

I'm currently in my second year of Biomedical science and the lowest i have ever gotten on any exam was a high 2.1 so there is no reason to believe that I wont achieve at least a 2.1 in my final degree.

I also have all sorts of experiences (shadow work in hospitals abroad, work experience, health care assistance, teacher assistance for special need children and volunteer work within hospitals as well as with charities).

However, I got horrible A level grades and I've also undergone a brain injury within my first semester in my first year.

I am planning on applying for Oxford, King's, St Gearges and Nottingham but i wanted to know if those reasones would stop me from succeding in an application to any of those universities. Thank you guys
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Hi everyone, I wanted to know if anyone here has applied for graduate medcine at Oxford, Kings or St Georges?

I'm currently in my second year of Biomedical science and the lowest i have ever gotten on any exam was a high 2.1 so there is no reason to believe that I wont achieve at least a 2.1 in my final degree.

I also have all sorts of experiences (shadow work in hospitals abroad, work experience, health care assistance, teacher assistance for special need children and volunteer work within hospitals as well as with charities).

However, I got horrible A level grades and I've also undergone a brain injury within my first semester in my first year.

I am planning on applying for Oxford, King's, St Gearges and Nottingham but i wanted to know if those reasones would stop me from succeding in an application to any of those universities. Thank you guys
hey! i applied to oxford and kings gem this year and have already gotten rejections at both

im in my final year of biomedical science, predicted a 1st, great gcses, awful a-levels (but a-levels don't matter for the kings and oxford gem - beware though as others do care about them)
i have done around 140 hours of volunteering - but remember that if you have no reflection then all the work experience in the world doesn't matter - and you need to show this in your personal statement

this year's application cycle taught me 2 things:

TIME TIME TIME (ok 3 things) - please give yourself time to prepare the best application possible.
the universities you are applying to require BMAT (Oxford), UKCAT (Kings) AND the GAMSAT (St. Georges, Nottingham) - are you sure you can handle this ? it is better for you to do 2 exams well rather than all 3 at a sub-standard rate. keep in mind this is also a rather expensive route - doing the ukcat and bmat this year cost me around £287 and I didn't even have enough resources at that. the gamsat alone is 263 i think - so you are nearing 600 without the prep for gamsat yet.

even though every part of my application was great my ukcat and bmat basically shut the door right in my face.
for kings gem you need around 770+ to put yourself in a safe area, and for oxford i'd say 6,6,3.5A MINIMUM
i got 635 band 3 (ukcat) and 4.2,3.8,3.5A (bmat) - the unis you are applying to do care about these exams so you can see that this just stopped things totally
i am not sure about gamsat as i didn't do it and to be honest won't do it if i have to apply again.

to prepare well for ukcat and bmat i wish i had started about 4 months earlier than i did.

UKCAT doesn't need as much time to prepare as bmat - but some key skills such as reading fast whilst taking in all the info, recognising patterns and mental maths can take months to refine so even though you may not start doing actual questions, start intentionally practising these skills. this could be done by reading a newspaper every day and noting down what you learnt from it and see if you were able to cover all the points in that article, and continue to do that faster and faster every day. you can download so many mental maths apps on your phone as well.
ukcat is a heavy exam - harder than the bmat in my opinion because it requires actual technique - so i would suggest giving yourself at least 8 weeks for heavy revision and practising questions

BMAT - even though we are studying biomed and may think we can remember gcse chem and bio you do need to basically revise the whole spec again to get a good score. this alone will take around 2 months if you want an amazing score. bmat also doesn't have a calculator so you definitely need good mental maths for this.
remember that you are also doing ukcat and bmat which is why i would suggest giving yourself a good 4 months to fully prepare your application. as you are applying oxford it may be good too apply for the september exam because starting final year whilst revising for bmat was hell on earth for me

i started revising around early august time - which was really really dumb on my part. if i have to apply again, i will start as soon as uni finishes in march (lucky final year me - 6 months of summer!!) and put myself in the best position. i suggest you do the same if you also want to add gamsat to this already heavy workload. also as you said you are in 2nd year so you may also have to prepare yourself for 3rd year so remember this

for ps please start early. i started my ps literally a week before the deadline and even though i managed to produce a decent ps, if i had given myself say a month to prepare it could have been better.

make sure to look on the unis website and see what they want in a student as this will help you to figure out what to include in your personal statement. as someone who has done a lot already you will need some guidelines on how to best refine your ps.

this is a lot to take in but please learn from my naivety

a sensible person learns from their own mistakes, a smart person learns from other peoples mistakes

let me know if you need any more advice
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I'm a recent Chemistry graduate with a 2.1 from a RG uni and I'm considering applying to graduate medicine for 2020 entry. I'm hesitant because my A Level grades are crap (B in Biology, C in Chem and B in Sociology) so I don't know if it's worth me applying. Also I'll be doing my Masters in Public Health at Warwick next year.

I'll be applying to Nottingham, St George's, Swansea and Warwick as they don't consider your A Levels. QMUL, Newcastle and Southampton are also options but they don't have as many places. Should I bother applying? The GAMSAT is over £200 and the UKCAT is around £60, I don't wanna waste my money and time studying for these tests if there's no point.

Has anyone in a similar situation gotten into grad med? I'd be sitting the GAMSAT in March so need to book it soon and start preparing for it.

I'd appreciate any advice/tips on what unis to apply to, or any other advice. Thanks.
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I'm a recent Chemistry graduate with a 2.1 from a RG uni and I'm considering applying to graduate medicine for 2020 entry. I'm hesitant because my A Level grades are crap (B in Biology, C in Chem and B in Sociology) so I don't know if it's worth me applying. Also I'll be doing my Masters in Public Health at Warwick next year.

I'll be applying to Nottingham, St George's, Swansea and Warwick as they don't consider your A Levels. QMUL, Newcastle and Southampton are also options but they don't have as many places. Should I bother applying? The GAMSAT is over £200 and the UKCAT is around £60, I don't wanna waste my money and time studying for these tests if there's no point.

Has anyone in a similar situation gotten into grad med? I'd be sitting the GAMSAT in March so need to book it soon and start preparing for it.

I'd appreciate any advice/tips on what unis to apply to, or any other advice. Thanks.
Plenty of people will have been in your situation and worse and got in. If you read through threads you'll realise that your situation isn't bad at all, compared to others. For many, graduate entry medicine is a second chance at medicine.

You say you have bad A-levels? Good, you're applying to the med schools which don't look at them. You got a 2:1, that means a lot of doors are open to you. There are people on here who have a 2:2 and without doing a postgraduate degree can only apply to Nottingham. Yes your degree is chemistry but there are plenty of GEM programmes which accept any degree (most I think) plus you have a B in Biology A-level. Your masters will give you bonus points at Warwick and Barts. Your position isn't bad.

GEM is competitive. Barts, Newcastle, and Southampton may not have many places, but have you seen how many applicants your other choices normally have, despite having more places? Don't worry about places, you can't do anything about that. Focus on what you need to do to get an interview. Once you have an interview your chances of getting an offer increase. And remember that it is competitive and you may very well get no offers for that cycle, but that's common throughout medicine and plenty of people reapply and get in. There's somebody on here who applied to GEM four times and finally got in.

Do you want to study medicine? If you don't then there's no point paying to sit those exams. If you do, then there's a point.
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