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    I just did my gcses, mostly a stars, and im really keen on doing ppe at oxford.

    What can i do to increase my chances of getting in from now?

    (I have already started reading the economist and the times as recommended by someone)

    And as i am not doing any of the ppe subjects for a/s (history maths english lit chem french)

    should i read alot of books related to p p e and do u have any recommendations?


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    Get yourself down to an open day (or two) to make sure that Oxbridge really is the place for you.

    First of all: Make sure your AS grades are up to scratch. Remember they get your exact percentages so don't just try and scrape A grades - aim for 90%+.

    Secondly: Make sure you have things to put on your UCAS form - D of E, saturday job etc. Show them that you can manage your time effectively.

    Thirdly: If /when? you get an interview make sure you are up to speed with not only your A Level subjects but also current affairs.

    Fourthly: Ensure that you can talk expansively about anything on your personal statement and UCAS form. For example, you might get asked "I see you live in ____ - what is that like?" Its surprising the number of people who can't cope with even the most simple questions because of their nerves.

    Fifthly: Go to http://oa.waveflex.com/profiles/sprofiles.asp and see how other people got on with their PPE interviews.
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    (Original post by sloaney87)
    I just did my gcses, mostly a stars, and im really keen on doing ppe at oxford.

    What can i do to increase my chances of getting in from now?

    (I have already started reading the economist and the times as recommended by someone)

    And as i am not doing any of the ppe subjects for a/s (history maths english lit chem french)

    should i read alot of books related to p p e and do u have any recommendations?
    Yes, and I can recommend a couple:
    The Armchair Economist by Steven Landsburg and The Accidental Theorist by Paul Krugman are good, accessable economics books that I was recommended at an Oxford open day. I can't recommend anything specific for politics and philosophy, but any decent politics or philosophy book will show interest for the subject and will look good on personal statements and in interviews. You're taking maths and essay subjects, which is good, as you'll need to write many essays for PPE, but the tutors always look for maths for the economics part. Popular politics books like Naomi Klein, No Logo are probably worth a read, though I've never got on with it (too preachy for my liking). In terms of philosophy, I read a couple of famous texts before I came up, things like Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Neitzsche or Plato's Symposium.

    Anything that shows interest, a passion for the subjects, and own study will look good on forms and in interviews. Other than that, try to do some extra curricular thing, either on a school council or something, and do well in your exams. Then it's down to the interview.

    Good luck!
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    http://www.uk-learning.net/t51363.html is a good list of economics things to read. Obviously pick and choose, but there are some good books there.
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    They don't get your UMS, as you're applying to Oxford.

    I hardly did any of this stuff and got an offer. My interviews weren't based on anything I'd read or done, it was all theoretical stuff. As I did Maths, I got a few maths questions (proofs mostly), I also got some metaphysics but mostly it wasn't stuff directly related to any of the disciplines.

    For books, don't read any heavyweights as they're hard and you will get asked about them. Landsburg is excellent, haven't tried Krugman yet. I'd also recommend (insert author name here...)'s 101 Philosophical Problems and his 101 Ethical Problems. The Philosophical Problems are probably better, because of the sort of thing therein. That's the sort of question you'd actually get hit by at the interview.

    Finally, the exam you get matters. Also, its format, despite what the prospectus says, hasn't changed for years. So get good at definitions and maths with assumptions.
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    I don't mean to be a dumbass, but what does 'PPE' mean?
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    (Original post by theoffender)
    I don't mean to be a dumbass, but what does 'PPE' mean?
    Philosophy, Politics and Economics.
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    A bit of a PPE reading list I put together on my 4 hours flight back from Athens; just pick a couple of books you like the sound of and have a read.

    POLITICS

    The People's Peace: British History 1945-1990 - Moran
    British Politics: Continuities and Change - Kavanagh
    Karl Marx: selected writings - McLellan
    Development in American Politics - Palgrave
    British Politics: A Very Short Introduction - Wright
    Handbook of Political Science - Goodman & Klingemann
    German Politics 1945-95 - Pulzer
    German Politics Today - Roberts
    France since 1945 - Gildea
    Developments in British Politics - Palgrave
    Development in German Politics - Palgrave
    The Government & Politics of France - Stevens
    The Government & Politics of the United States - Bowles
    Politics in the USA - Vile
    On Liberty - Mill
    Political Philosophy: A Very Short Introduction - Milller
    The Social Contract - Rousseau
    Development in American Politics - Palgrave
    Democracy and its Critics - Dahl
    Economics Theory of Democracy - Downs
    Contemporary Political Ideologies - Eatwell &Wright
    Handbook of Political Science - Goodman & Klingemann

    ECONOMICS

    A History of Economics - Galbraith
    Principles of Economics - Lipsey & Chrystal
    Intermediate Microeconomics - Varian
    In Defence of Globalisation - Bhagwati
    No Logo - Klein
    The State We're In - Hutton
    The World We're In - Hutton
    Economics - Begg
    Microeconomics - Katz & Rosen
    Thinking Strategically - Dixit & Nalebuff
    The Accidental Theorist - Krugman
    Capitalism and Freedom - Friedman
    Keynes and After - Stewart
    The Armchair Economist - Landsburg
    Macroeconomics - Mankiw
    Why Globalisation Works - Wolf
    Macroeconomics: A European Approach - Burday &Wyplosz
    Macroeconomics - Miles & Scott
    Economics - Stiglitz
    Sex, Drugs and Economics - Coyle
    The Truth About Markets - Kay
    Key Ideas in Economics - Dransfiled & Dransfield
    Macroeconomics - Dornbusch & Fischer & Startz
    Why Globalisation Works - Wolf
    Free Lunch - Smith
    European Macroeconomics - Barro & Grilli
    Macroeconomics - Blanchard
    Globalisation, Reasons, Effects and Challenges - Emmott
    Globalisation and its Discontents - Stiglitz
    Macroeconomics - Abel & Bernanke

    MATHS

    Mathematics for Economics and Business - Jacques
    Macroeconomics in the Global Economy - Sachs & Larrain
    Mathematics for Economics and Finance - Anthony & Biggs
    Mathematics for Economists - Hoy & Livernois & McKenna & Rees & Stengosw
    Fundamentals of Mathematical Economics - Chiang
    Mathematics for Economists - Pemberton & Rau
    Introductory Statistics for Business and Economics - Sydsaeter&Hammond
    Statistical Methods for the Social Sciences - Agresti & Finaly

    PHILOSOPHY

    The Oxford Companion to Philosophy - Honderich
    Utilitarianism - Mill
    Hodges - Logic
    The Problem of Knowledge - Ayer
    Logical Forms - Sainsbury
    The Problems of Philosophy - Russell
    Descartes - Williams
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    (Original post by theoffender)
    I don't mean to be a dumbass, but what does 'PPE' mean?
    It's a Scum thing.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    It's a Scum thing.
    Like those powerhouse Tabsville subjects: Rowing and SPS and Rowing with Land Economy. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by BazTheMoney)
    Like those powerhouse Tabsville subjects: Rowing and SPS and Rowing with Land Economy. :rolleyes:
    SPS isn't a boatie subject!
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    (Original post by BazTheMoney)
    A bit of a PPE reading list I put together on my 4 hours flight back from Athens; just pick a couple of books you like the sound of and have a read.

    POLITICS

    The People's Peace: British History 1945-1990 - Moran
    British Politics: Continuities and Change - Kavanagh
    Karl Marx: selected writings - McLellan
    Development in American Politics - Palgrave
    British Politics: A Very Short Introduction - Wright
    Handbook of Political Science - Goodman & Klingemann
    German Politics 1945-95 - Pulzer
    German Politics Today - Roberts
    France since 1945 - Gildea
    Developments in British Politics - Palgrave
    Development in German Politics - Palgrave
    The Government & Politics of France - Stevens
    The Government & Politics of the United States - Bowles
    Politics in the USA - Vile
    On Liberty - Mill
    Political Philosophy: A Very Short Introduction - Milller
    The Social Contract - Rousseau
    Development in American Politics - Palgrave
    Democracy and its Critics - Dahl
    Economics Theory of Democracy - Downs
    Contemporary Political Ideologies - Eatwell &Wright
    Handbook of Political Science - Goodman & Klingemann

    ECONOMICS

    A History of Economics - Galbraith
    Principles of Economics - Lipsey & Chrystal
    Intermediate Microeconomics - Varian
    In Defence of Globalisation - Bhagwati
    No Logo - Klein
    The State We're In - Hutton
    The World We're In - Hutton
    Economics - Begg
    Microeconomics - Katz & Rosen
    Thinking Strategically - Dixit & Nalebuff
    The Accidental Theorist - Krugman
    Capitalism and Freedom - Friedman
    Keynes and After - Stewart
    The Armchair Economist - Landsburg
    Macroeconomics - Mankiw
    Why Globalisation Works - Wolf
    Macroeconomics: A European Approach - Burday &Wyplosz
    Macroeconomics - Miles & Scott
    Economics - Stiglitz
    Sex, Drugs and Economics - Coyle
    The Truth About Markets - Kay
    Key Ideas in Economics - Dransfiled & Dransfield
    Macroeconomics - Dornbusch & Fischer & Startz
    Why Globalisation Works - Wolf
    Free Lunch - Smith
    European Macroeconomics - Barro & Grilli
    Macroeconomics - Blanchard
    Globalisation, Reasons, Effects and Challenges - Emmott
    Globalisation and its Discontents - Stiglitz
    Macroeconomics - Abel & Bernanke

    MATHS

    Mathematics for Economics and Business - Jacques
    Macroeconomics in the Global Economy - Sachs & Larrain
    Mathematics for Economics and Finance - Anthony & Biggs
    Mathematics for Economists - Hoy & Livernois & McKenna & Rees & Stengosw
    Fundamentals of Mathematical Economics - Chiang
    Mathematics for Economists - Pemberton & Rau
    Introductory Statistics for Business and Economics - Sydsaeter&Hammond
    Statistical Methods for the Social Sciences - Agresti & Finaly

    PHILOSOPHY

    The Oxford Companion to Philosophy - Honderich
    Utilitarianism - Mill
    Hodges - Logic
    The Problem of Knowledge - Ayer
    Logical Forms - Sainsbury
    The Problems of Philosophy - Russell
    Descartes - Williams
    You say you've read all those at interview and they will NAIL YOU. They know those books in a hell of a lot more detail than you will in one read.

    Possibly read one, maybe two of those books.

    Just tell them about your interests, they want enthusiam not genius
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    (Original post by Tom Holder)
    You say you've read all those at interview and they will NAIL YOU. They know those books in a hell of a lot more detail than you will in one read.

    Possibly read one, maybe two of those books.

    Just tell them about your interests, they want enthusiam not genius
    That's why I said "pick a couple". :rolleyes: They're going to know everything better than you, it's not even worth worrying about.
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    (Original post by Tom Holder)
    You say you've read all those at interview and they will NAIL YOU. They know those books in a hell of a lot more detail than you will in one read.

    Possibly read one, maybe two of those books.

    Just tell them about your interests, they want enthusiam not genius
    Obviously only read a couple, but I dispute the more detail than you'll get in one read. I've read a few of those, and had on my personal statement a couple I particularly liked. However at the time of my interview, I'd jssut finished two and got 2/3 of the way through the other, and I did fine on it. Not only had I only read them once, I had finished reading one. They don't want massive detail, they want to know you're interested, as you said, and thus that you've read things on the subject, and can talk about the subject.

    But small point, as you are right, pick a couple and read those. I can throughrally recommend The Accidental Theoriest by Krugman, and 3 of those Maths books (Jaques, Pemberton & Rau, and Sydsaeter & Hammond) are on my Oxford reading list, so are obviously decent books, though more like textbooks. Thinking Strategically is great if you're into Game Theory, but will grate a bit if you're not. From my limited experience, it seems like a great list, and worth taking head of.
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    Make sure you've got 2 good essays as you need to send them off as part of your application. Keep this in mind as you write essays over the year. probably be best to send one history essay (depends what bits you're studying) and an english lit essay. You could try and do an essay from one of the 3 subjects but it mightn't work too well if you're not studying them I sent off an AS History Essay on the civil war in Russia in 1919/1920 and then an A2 economics essay on whether trading blocs were contradictory to the fundamental principles of the wto.

    As for the reading, i found that the ft, the guardian and the economist were sufficient. both my interviews were extremely academic and no wider reading was mentioned at all. i read a bit of 'learning to philosophise' by emmett? and a bit of stiglitz. You'll have so much to do in the 6th form - all of which will help towards your application. Coursework, Open Days, D of E, Personal Statement, oxford application form, making sure your essays are up to scratch, your a-levels, a job maybe, having a life. the subjects youre doing tend to give a lot of homework, so extra reading on subjects you've never studied is going to be hard. if you can do it great, but its certainly not necessary to get a place.
 
 
 
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