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Hey all,
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
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(Original post by IrKirsty)
Hey all,
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
Hey all,
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
It sounds to me like your teachers are not up to speed on the community.
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I'm gay and I don't see how that quote could be deemed offensive but maybe the text surrounding it could have been? If you think you've been unfairly marked ask your teacher to expalain!
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(Original post by IrKirsty)
Hey all,
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
Hey all,
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
This kind of thing happened to people I know during their first year studying sociology at university.
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You my friend have fallen victim to an extreme-leftist university doctor/professor.
This kind of thing happened to people I know during their first year studying sociology at university.
You my friend have fallen victim to an extreme-leftist university doctor/professor.
This kind of thing happened to people I know during their first year studying sociology at university.
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Tell your professor that anything can be offensive, its the real consequences of words and language that are deadly. Anything that has incited real violence.
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Queer used to be a slur but it's mostly been reclaimed by the community. I would call myself queer, and yes, it is actually part of the acronym.
It sounds to me like your teachers are not up to speed on the community.
Queer used to be a slur but it's mostly been reclaimed by the community. I would call myself queer, and yes, it is actually part of the acronym.
It sounds to me like your teachers are not up to speed on the community.
(Original post by xxFreyaWxx)
I'm gay and I don't see how that quote could be deemed offensive but maybe the text surrounding it could have been? If you think you've been unfairly marked ask your teacher to expalain!
I'm gay and I don't see how that quote could be deemed offensive but maybe the text surrounding it could have been? If you think you've been unfairly marked ask your teacher to expalain!
(Original post by Cubone-r)
You my friend have fallen victim to an extreme-leftist university doctor/professor.
This kind of thing happened to people I know during their first year studying sociology at university.
You my friend have fallen victim to an extreme-leftist university doctor/professor.
This kind of thing happened to people I know during their first year studying sociology at university.
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(Original post by IrKirsty)
Hey all,
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
Hey all,
I submitted an essay a while back and just been going over my feedback. Essay was on how society has changed over the years and how this has impacted upon life and well being.
In one paragraph I spoke on changing views on social norms etc and wrote within the essay "...Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer (LGBTQ) movements..". This was then annotated as being "very offensive" with it repeatedly coming up in the feedback comments saying that I need to be aware of offensive language being used. This makes me pretty sure I'll have been marked down on my essay because of this!
Am I the only person who does not see a problem with this?
I only state it once and was used as more of a reference than anything else. It's not like it was my own opinion or I was saying it from my point of view?
Am I missing the point here or..?
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(Original post by AnnieGakusei)
Queer used to be a slur but it's mostly been reclaimed by the community. I would call myself queer, and yes, it is actually part of the acronym.
It sounds to me like your teachers are not up to speed on the community.
Queer used to be a slur but it's mostly been reclaimed by the community. I would call myself queer, and yes, it is actually part of the acronym.
It sounds to me like your teachers are not up to speed on the community.
That said, I don't think the 'Q' in 'LGBTQ' is offensive, pointless yes, but not offensive.
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Mostly? Haha, no. 'Queer' still is offensive for many people in the community.
That said, I don't think the 'Q' in 'LGBTQ' is offensive, pointless yes, but not offensive.
Mostly? Haha, no. 'Queer' still is offensive for many people in the community.
That said, I don't think the 'Q' in 'LGBTQ' is offensive, pointless yes, but not offensive.
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Queer used to be (and in some cases still is) a slur, so a lot of older people are sensitive about using it since they don't want to offend the community (my mum thought the same before we talked about how it's been reclaimed as an identity). I'd say either save your grades and take it out, or explain to your professor that this generation used the word differently. I also think you could talk about it in your essay, as it comes under the umbrella of 'changing views on social norms'.
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You should put everything in quotes, that's a get out of jail free card every time.
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They might think you're being insincere though.
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Complain to someone higher up than your lecturer if they're marking it down, as there is literally nothing offensive in that at all.
I just say LGB groups because there's no need to group Trans people within that, and the 'queer' label is just a way of saying "i'm not straight".
I just say LGB groups because there's no need to group Trans people within that, and the 'queer' label is just a way of saying "i'm not straight".
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(Original post by AnnieGakusei)
I might be thinking of the younger side of the community, whom I know and see a lot more of than older LGBTQ people.
I might be thinking of the younger side of the community, whom I know and see a lot more of than older LGBTQ people.
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Queer used to be (and in some cases still is) a slur, so a lot of older people are sensitive about using it since they don't want to offend the community (my mum thought the same before we talked about how it's been reclaimed as an identity). I'd say either save your grades and take it out, or explain to your professor that this generation used the word differently. I also think you could talk about it in your essay, as it comes under the umbrella of 'changing views on social norms'.
Queer used to be (and in some cases still is) a slur, so a lot of older people are sensitive about using it since they don't want to offend the community (my mum thought the same before we talked about how it's been reclaimed as an identity). I'd say either save your grades and take it out, or explain to your professor that this generation used the word differently. I also think you could talk about it in your essay, as it comes under the umbrella of 'changing views on social norms'.
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I'm not that old. Don't assume everyone in your generation thinks the same. They don't. Queer is insulting to people of all ages.
I'm not that old. Don't assume everyone in your generation thinks the same. They don't. Queer is insulting to people of all ages.
Am I supposed to be offended every time someone refers to queer people, if it's clearly not meant in a homophobic way?
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Am I supposed to be offended every time someone refers to queer people, if it's clearly not meant in a homophobic way?
Am I supposed to be offended every time someone refers to queer people, if it's clearly not meant in a homophobic way?
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I'm not that old. Don't assume everyone in your generation thinks the same. They don't. Queer is insulting to people of all ages.
I'm not that old. Don't assume everyone in your generation thinks the same. They don't. Queer is insulting to people of all ages.
And yeah maybe you're right, like I'm pretty indifferent about the word because I don't think it's really part of my generations vocabulary (I'm aware that that's a pretty bias view though because I went to a very small secondary school), but I understand that not everyone has the same experience. People who have had the word used on them as a slur should be respected for not wanting it to be a thing.
However, I think it's undeniable that the new generation of lgbt+ people are reclaiming it. Like it's all over the internet as a positive thing (although I suppose it depends on where you look). I think my point still stands that it would make sense to talk about it in an essay about changing social norms.
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(off topic but can I say I love your avatar, i ****ing love the moomins).
(off topic but can I say I love your avatar, i ****ing love the moomins).
They are awesome. 
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Queer has been completely reclaimed within academia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_studies
There's an active movement among terfs online to make it back into a slur in order to exclude queer people from the lgbtq community.
There's an active movement among terfs online to make it back into a slur in order to exclude queer people from the lgbtq community.
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