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Reply 40

but then HL questions seem to be much more difficult than SL questions and then there are certain questions that are put on HL papers to distinguish between level 6 and level 7 students. It's not the theory thats hard, more like problem solving skills and strategy

Reply 41

Most HL courses are extensions to SL courses. However, there seems to be a few courses which people believe they are way different between SL and HL, for examples, Chemistry, Mathematics and...Physics?

Mark schemes are also different between HL and SL, right?

Reply 42

timeceremony
Jesus.
You study to learn. Be happy you learn more in the International Baccalaureate.

Sure, that's great. I doubt anyone gives a toss about fluvial geomorphology and naturalism in Therese Raquin. Oh, but I'm sure they'd love to hear about Keynesian theory. Anyone except...


You know how many girls I've impressed when I am able to discuss Saussure alongside with some strange concept like anti-addition of bromonium ions?

Her? :s-smilie:

Reply 43

trm90
Sure, that's great. I doubt anyone gives a toss about fluvial geomorphology and naturalism in Therese Raquin. Oh, but I'm sure they'd love to hear about Keynesian theory. Anyone except...


Her? :s-smilie:


Girls at Oxford like intellectual guys, so a broad set of knowledge is great for a late night philosophical discussion while drinking red wine and listening to old decadent records, with the rain pouring down outside your room.
Trust me, this happens here a lot.

Reply 44

One friend of mine got 44 points and was not given an offer from Cambridge.

The only person at my school to get into Oxbridge was someone with 777776+2 (43). He was lucky to be accepted, since Cambridge wanted 777 at HL, while he "only" had 776.

Someone got 38 points, was not offered a place at Warwick or LSE.

A friend with 35 rejected from LSE (she was offered 36, but got 1 point too little).

Fair?

Reply 45

Glutamic Acid
Eh? If you're going to do maths then most tops unis will want you to have it.


yes.
they want me to have HL math.
but they dont want students to do furthur math, they are happy with A-level students only doing A-level math (as opposed to A-level furthur math)

A Levels AAB
SQA SH: AAAAB-AAABB; AH: AA in Mathematics & Physics
IB 35 points with 6,6,6 at Higher level including Mathematics & Physics

That is Bristol for aero engineering.
They dont specify A in furthur maths...only A in maths =\

Reply 46

HJV
One friend of mine got 44 points and was not given an offer from Cambridge.

The only person at my school to get into Oxbridge was someone with 777776+2 (43). He was lucky to be accepted, since Cambridge wanted 777 at HL, while he "only" had 776.

Someone got 38 points, was not offered a place at Warwick or LSE.

A friend with 35 rejected from LSE (she was offered 36, but got 1 point too little).

Fair?


Not at all. I agree that IB'ers have it a lot more difficult when being accepted. But this is why Oxford is filled with twits who got in cause daddy put them in Harrow/Eton. These people ultimately fail miserably, so feel good about being hardworking.

Reply 47

lol i have quite a funny IB story actually..
one of my friends from two years ago got an offer from Cambridge forrrrrrr Physics - I believe it was a 43 with 777 in HL's...
In his final result he got a 44 and Cambridge rejected him because she got a 776 in his HL econ paper...he sent it for remarking, managed to get a 45 (woop!) sent it back it Cambridge, then Cambridge accepted it...silly Cambridge people ! ^^

Reply 48

Cambridge give 43 point offers? That's pretty intense. The highest I've heard of is around 40.

Reply 49

Oh my...777 for HL does seem really harsh.

Reply 50

A girl on TSR got rejected this year by Cambridge. She had one of those nasty 42 point offers.

Reply 51

might've been a 42...
but it definately wasn't a 40 (which is what he was expecting)

Reply 52

I thought Cambridge typically gives offers to those with predicted 40 + (776 at HL.) Although, on the admission page, it does say typical offers are given to those who achieve 38 - 40 IB points, including bonus.

Reply 53

i've heard, and i would say an as + a2 level subject is equivalent to an HL subject. i would say a 6 or 7 on an I.B. HL subject is equivalent to an A in an A-level.

Reply 54

sweeeeet apparently according to these scales i got straight A's :tongue:

Reply 55

It's quite simple, really.

In A levels you typically take 3 A2 subjects, all of which will be ones that you enjoy and are good at.

In IB you taket he equivalent of 3 A2 (HL), which you will enjoy and be good at, plus 3 sucky subjects which you may very well hate and are failing miserably at.

CAS is done by most people anyway, so it's not really an extra, but TOK and the EE also add an extra unwanted hassle.

If you're taking 4/5 A Levels in traditional subjects, then yes, the IB and A levels are roughly on the same line (just with different aims).

But if one more person taking 3 a levels in Media/Photography/Drama/Law/Dance tells me that IB "isn't actually that much work at all" and "I swear we do more work than you, you lazy slackers" I will go mental.

Reply 56

When I came to uni everyone was like "oh IB? That's not as indepth as A-levels" and then they cant do basic mathematics (these are maths students).
It seems that all across the UK teachers are convincing students that the IB isn't as indepth as A-levels is..? lol

Reply 57

TI-84
When I came to uni everyone was like "oh IB? That's not as indepth as A-levels" and then they cant do basic mathematics (these are maths students).
It seems that all across the UK teachers are convincing students that the IB isn't as indepth as A-levels is..? lol


Won't they fail then? Then you can :hahaha: at them.

timeceremony
Girls at Oxford like intellectual guys, so a broad set of knowledge is great for a late night philosophical discussion while drinking red wine and listening to old decadent records, with the rain pouring down outside your room.


I'll tell my friends to retract their applications ASAP. :rolleyes:

timeceremony
Look people, if you want to strive for the best education, you need the hardest courses.

My model IB diploma is:

2 A1 languages
1 humanity (ie. history SL)
Maths HL
Phys HL
Chem HL
(+ visual art SL as 7th subject. This only if you choose to do 1 language B instead of A1).

or.
3 A1 languages
1 science: phys SL
History HL, Philosophy HL

These are the kind of diplomas that get you into Oxford or Cambridge. Don't whine.


Your models are flawed. A1 and A2 at HL grants you a bilingual diploma so there's no need for 3 A1s. In addition, you would need to apply for an irregular diploma (ha, you must like paperwork and making up good excuses). Phys SL but no Math SL? Okayyyy... I don't even think that's a possible combination, not to mention that universities won't like the low mark you'll most likely receive for Physics.

If you have Math, Chem, and Phys HL, you would most likely be going into engineering/math/economics, so Economics SL would be more beneficial than History SL, I'd imagine. And Visual Arts SL would just be a waste of time.

Oh and btw, it's must harder being a well-rounded student than simply being immersed in only the sciences or languages/social sciences. You're better off taking A-Levels if that's the case.

Reply 58

I think that the subjects you are taking largley influence how the IB compares to A Level Grades. If you are taking HL Maths, Biology and Chemistry, with Maths SL, History Sl and say German SL, then 40 points is way way way more than AAA at A level. Probarbly closer to AAAAA. However If you are doing Theatre HL, DT HL and Maths Studies, 40 points is probarbly between AAA and AAAA.

My university has its own conversion taking A* grades into account:

IB Points
BAND1- (Given the jumps between the levels, a whole grade seperates these)
45- A* A* A* A*
44- A* A* A* A
43- A* A* A A
42- A* A A A ( A* A A A is considered higher than A A A A A)
BAND 2-
41 and 40- A A A A A
38 and 39- A A A A
36 and 37- A A A B
34 and 35- A A A
BAND 3-
32 and 33 A A B
30 and 31 A B B
BAND 4-
28 and 29 B B B
26 and 27 B C C
24 and 25 C C C

The university also uses a "Subject Skew" to take into account subject choices. For example a person who is predicted 40 points but is taking theatre arts HL would get a -1 point and a person doing Maths studies would get a -1 point. Doing Maths Chemistry or Physics HL gains an extra point.

THEATRE HL = -1 Point
DT HL = - 1 Point
Maths Studies = -1 Point
Film HL = - 1 Point
Maths HL = +1 Point
Chem HL = +1 Point
Phys HL = + 1 Point
Getting 3 core points = +1 Point

So my score of 39 points with -1 point for taking maths studies but +1 point for getting 3 core points= 39
which the university grades as A A A A in BAND 2

Reply 59

krazykeys
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Hey, which university are you referring to?