Which professions are safe from machines/AI

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Theoretically, I could see the vast majority of jobs being taken over somewhere down the line the more advanced machinery gets.

Maybe the arts/pornstars etc are the only ones that are safe.
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Theoretically, I could see the vast majority of jobs being taken over somewhere down the line the more advanced machinery gets.

Maybe the arts/pornstars etc are the only ones that are safe.
I'm sure they will have robot pornstars in no time.
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Carers. Can't imagine being cared for by a robot. Can anyone?
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Carers. Can't imagine being cared for by a robot. Can anyone?
I can. Imagine a robot that knows your every detail and condition(s) inside and out and can choose the best way to take care of you from that information. Obviously, something like this is way way way out from ever being introduced but I am sure most things will be taken over by machines/AI in the future and no one will have a job.
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Carers. Can't imagine being cared for by a robot. Can anyone?
Disney Pixar's been there.
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Literally none.
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Professional sports?
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No job is really safe.
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Professional sports?
True. Even though they probably could be programmed to play sports, no one would want to watch it.

Imagine watching a robot constantly throwing 180's at the Darts.
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True. Even though they probably could be programmed to play sports, no one would want to watch it.

Imagine watching a robot constantly throwing 180's at the Darts.
They could be programmed to play sports imperfectly, as to maintain viewer interest, quite easily. (assuming that programming them to play sports perfectly would be considered easy lol)
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They could be programmed to play sports imperfectly, as to maintain viewer interest, quite easily. (assuming that programming them to play sports perfectly would be considered easy lol)
They could, but can you see it happening in the same way you might be able to see a robot replacing someone at McDonalds?

Realistically, professional sports are safe.
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(Original post by IamJacksContempt)
Theoretically, I could see the vast majority of jobs being taken over somewhere down the line the more advanced machinery gets.

Maybe the arts/pornstars etc are the only ones that are safe.
I have some bad news for you about something called "rule 34". I'm certain porn will be the first thing robots get put to work in.

This thread is sort of interesting as it speaks volumes about the warped viewpoint we have of modern society, that people need to be doing some form of labour. Has it occurred to you that if you killed all the oil barons and their ilk, and had automated agriculture, healthcare, sanitation, infrastructure maintenance and development, etc, etc, and you wouldn't need to impose some arbitrary requirement to pay for goods and services. If you could ensure that the food and health needs of the global populace were met in such a fashion that it was sustainable in the very long term, without waste (which is actually possible NOW, but because people seem to thing modern capitalist economics are a natural phenomena instead of a social construction, it isn't happening) then people would be free to go and pursue whatever intellectual, athletic, or creative outlets they like.

People say things like Philosophy are bad subjects to pick at uni because you'll "never get a job" - but if you don't need to get a job, it would be much more appealing no? Similarly the arts, pure mathematics, writing, and so on would no longer have the "not employable" fear attached to them, and I think many more would both rate them more highly as pursuits, and wish to pursue those areas themselves.

At the end of the day, it isn't necessary to be employed full time outside of a system which requires increasing time being devoted to it (note I didn't say work) to get similar remuneration, in order to just survive. It's pretty well established that in typical office based jobs, less than half the time is spent productively (from a corporate point of view. But in such jobs, there isn't a great drive to greater productivity - as long as the time is being monopolised by the corporations, there is a great demand from those workers on how they will spend their much more limited spare time. Thus, those "leisure" activities, such as travel, entertainment, even food, can have the cost of consumption increased to artificially created demand.

It's also worth remembering the agricultural production far exceeds food consumption requirements across the globe, but it would be against capitalist principles and damage a purely capitalist economy to actually do something about it, as opposed to leaving it to rot in a warehouse. See for example the issue the US has with overproduction of bread lately.
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(Original post by Tiger Rag)
Carers. Can't imagine being cared for by a robot. Can anyone?


He's not the only popular robotic protector/ carer. Though certainly, many people would prefer to be cared by humans.

(Original post by IamJacksContempt)
Imagine watching a robot constantly throwing 180's at the Darts.
Actually sports becames more and more predictable from decades because of... well, everybody know reasons why.

(Original post by IamJacksContempt)

Maybe the arts
Tons of modern arts is just fraud, then generic computer images would already do well, if only promoted properly, not to mention modern programming being able to imitate particular visuals, and many interesting images can be generated as a result of mathematic.

Music is a closed mathematical systems, there are already many computer programs than can compose music much better than most of humans can do.
More complex pieces of art will be safe for some time, I guess in time computers will learn to imitate the trick, especially having acces to millions of hours movie databases.
While marketing is so stupid already and content suggesting algoritms working so well already, big part of work could already been done by computers.

I think that humans are safe mainly in high, responsible positions where companies will long be afraid to let the job being done by computers, while in many lower fields, humans will just compete with machines in who's working for less. Warehouse workers, accountants, even journalists are already being slowly replaced.

Btw. if you like to read stories, read Lem's "Encounter" - one of classic Sci-Fi novels about pilot Pirx. It's very old, but still interesting, about human and android, both trying to provoke situation in which one will proove inferior to another.
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He's not the only popular robotic protector/ carer. Though certainly, many people would prefer to be cared by humans.



Actually sports becames more and more predictable from decades because of... well, everybody know reasons why.



Tons of modern arts is just fraud, then generic computer images would already do well, if only promoted properly, not to mention modern programming being able to imitate particular visuals, and many interesting images can be generated as a result of mathematic.

Music is a closed mathematical systems, there are already many computer programs than can compose music much better than most of humans can do.
More complex pieces of art will be safe for some time, I guess in time computers will learn to imitate the trick, especially having acces to millions of hours movie databases.
While marketing is so stupid already and content suggesting algoritms working so well already, big part of work could already been done by computers.

I think that humans are safe mainly in high, responsible positions where companies will long be afraid to let the job being done by computers, while in many lower fields, humans will just compete with machines in who's working for less. Warehouse workers, accountants, even journalists are already being slowly replaced.
Re the arts; i think it goes the same way as sports. No doubt robots could do all of them better than a human eventually. But that's not what people look for in sports/music/art. You need to connect on an emotional level which robots may be able to replicate in a way, but even consciously knowing a robot produced it would ruin the effect.
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(Original post by IamJacksContempt)
Re the arts; i think it goes the same way as sports. No doubt robots could do all of them better than a human eventually. But that's not what people look for in sports/music/art. You need to connect on an emotional level which robots may be able to replicate in a way, but even consciously knowing a robot produced it would ruin the effect.
Depends on preferences and situation. Some people consciously look for art created by computers, while Terminator in a good example of popular art towards machine. The fact that Hollywood can produce next crappy movies about him and earn millions, is largely because people loved the idea of a cyborg who is
An idea of machine imitating human features is as much attractive as an idea of human
At some point it may as well turn out, that there will be cyborgs being perfect role models, that people will attempt to imitate, even knowing it's impossible because they are just constitutionally inferior these robots.
Like people being amateur singers, sportsmen, racing drivers etc. They may know they are inferior to their role models, but still either imitate, either adore them.

Sure, there will be place for humans, there probably always will, but much less than there is now.
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Yup, I'm ****ed.
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I can. Imagine a robot that knows your every detail and condition(s) inside and out and can choose the best way to take care of you from that information. Obviously, something like this is way way way out from ever being introduced but I am sure most things will be taken over by machines/AI in the future and no one will have a job.
Personally, I wouldn't want a robot wiping my backside.
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Simple rule-based jobs were the first to start being replaced. Now skilled rule-based jobs will start being replaced (driver, pilot, diagnostician, accountant, etc.). After some more time, simple creative jobs will start to be replaced (content producers of all kinds), then complex creative jobs (engineer, researcher). Along the way, some jobs will be made redundant, e.g. human resources, head hunter, etc.

Jobs that require mobility will take a while to automate, such as fire fighter, police officer, soldier, because mobility is currently a challenging area in robotics (but technological advances may require fewer of these jobs). Also jobs that require a 'human' element, like professional sports player, politician, teacher, stripper, spy, will be resistant to automation but will face pressures. But none of these jobs are really safe in the long-term.

Once we have superintelligent AI the world will be a very different place, and it's very difficult to predict what it will look like. Until that point, the safest job is to be the boss of your own company, go with the flow and automate it.

(Original post by artful_lounger)
It's also worth remembering the agricultural production far exceeds food consumption requirements across the globe, but it would be against capitalist principles and damage a purely capitalist economy to actually do something about it, as opposed to leaving it to rot in a warehouse. See for example the issue the US has with overproduction of bread lately.
It reminds me of when the diamond racket was considering dumping diamonds into the ocean to keep the prices up.
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