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How do you become a chartered engineer?

So after doing an undergraduate degree in aerospace, would I need to do a masters? And then what after that? What's the difference between chartered and normal engineers? Is it true that chartered engineers are paid more?
Reply 1
Original post by United2810
So after doing an undergraduate degree in aerospace, would I need to do a masters? And then what after that? What's the difference between chartered and normal engineers? Is it true that chartered engineers are paid more?


Chartered engineers do get paid more.

He is a relevant document:
http://www.engc.org.uk/engcdocuments/internet/Website/UK-SPEC%20second%20edition.pdf

I believe the CEng qualification is issued by IET.
Reply 2
Original post by stoyfan
Chartered engineers do get paid more.

He is a relevant document:
http://www.engc.org.uk/engcdocuments/internet/Website/UK-SPEC%20second%20edition.pdf

I believe the CEng qualification is issued by IET.


In terms of salary, what type of engineering is the best? Also is the salary difference between chartered and normal engineers just a bit or a lot?
Original post by stoyfan
Chartered engineers do get paid more.

He is a relevant document:
http://www.engc.org.uk/engcdocuments/internet/Website/UK-SPEC%20second%20edition.pdf

I believe the CEng qualification is issued by IET.


CEng is administered by the Engineering Council, of which the IET is one of (along with the JBM, IMechE, IChemE and so on).

You would need to complete an accredited BEng or MEng programme and in the former case then satisfy the "further learning" by either completing an accredited MSc or building a portfolio of work while working (or sometimes while doing a PhD/EngD) in the sector that you submit for assessment which will fulfill the requirement. The latter process is much longer and more difficult to achieve in some senses.

You then have a period of work based learning, which also has some portfolio requirements, and after that you get CEng.

Or something along those lines...

For most people on this website, step one is to get an engineering degree. You will normally end up having talks by various engineering bodies during the degree and often your tutor/director of studies will make some recommendations about the education requirement if you're on the BEng. After that you need to be working in industry no matter what, and your employer will probably encourage you to pursue it, and help support you in the process with advice and so on, as it's a nice thing for them to say "x % of our engineers have CEng status" etc.
Reply 4
Original post by artful_lounger
CEng is administered by the Engineering Council, of which the IET is one of (along with the JBM, IMechE, IChemE and so on).

You would need to complete an accredited BEng or MEng programme and in the former case then satisfy the "further learning" by either completing an accredited MSc or building a portfolio of work while working (or sometimes while doing a PhD/EngD) in the sector that you submit for assessment which will fulfill the requirement. The latter process is much longer and more difficult to achieve in some senses.

You then have a period of work based learning, which also has some portfolio requirements, and after that you get CEng.

Or something along those lines...

For most people on this website, step one is to get an engineering degree. You will normally end up having talks by various engineering bodies during the degree and often your tutor/director of studies will make some recommendations about the education requirement if you're on the BEng. After that you need to be working in industry no matter what, and your employer will probably encourage you to pursue it, and help support you in the process with advice and so on, as it's a nice thing for them to say "x % of our engineers have CEng status" etc.


Ah, thanks for the explanation.
Reply 5
Original post by United2810
So after doing an undergraduate degree in aerospace, would I need to do a masters? And then what after that? What's the difference between chartered and normal engineers? Is it true that chartered engineers are paid more?


If you do an MEng you don't need a seperate masters (MSc)
So a BEng + MSc = MEng (for charterships and most other purposes).

And then after the MEng (or MSc) you, usually, do at least another 5 years of professional engineering work annually assessed as part of becoming chartered.

If you do a year in industry during your BEng or MEng that can count towards the chartership work experience requirement.
Reply 6
Original post by Doonesbury
If you do an MEng you don't need a seperate masters (MSc)
So a BEng + MSc = MEng (for charterships and most other purposes).

And then after the MEng (or MSc) you, usually, do at least another 5 years of professional engineering work annually assessed as part of becoming chartered.

If you do a year in industry during your BEng or MEng that can count towards the chartership work experience requirement.


I see, but don't most courses allow you to switch from the BEng to the MEng after 2nd year if you're good enough anyway?

Yeah I was thinking of doing a year in industry, help get some experience which is what employers want. Are tuition fees the same for that year in industry? Or are they lower?
Reply 7
Original post by United2810
I see, but don't most courses allow you to switch from the BEng to the MEng after 2nd year if you're good enough anyway?

Yeah I was thinking of doing a year in industry, help get some experience which is what employers want. Are tuition fees the same for that year in industry? Or are they lower?


Yes they do.

No, tuition fees are significantly lower for a YINI. Usually £1k or something like that.

:smile:
Original post by United2810
I see, but don't most courses allow you to switch from the BEng to the MEng after 2nd year if you're good enough anyway??


Yes, you are correct.
Reply 9
Original post by Doonesbury
Yes they do.

No, tuition fees are significantly lower for a YINI. Usually £1k or something like that.

:smile:


Are courses with a year in industry much more competitive than regular courses? Like surely there would be more applications per place right.
Reply 10
Original post by United2810
Are courses with a year in industry much more competitive than regular courses? Like surely there would be more applications per place right.


There's no guarantee you can get a place in industry - you still have to apply for placements when you are at the university. The university may help but it's basically up to you.
Original post by Doonesbury
There's no guarantee you can get a place in industry - you still have to apply for placements when you are at the university. The university may help but it's basically up to you.


So is it even worth applying for a year in industry course?
Original post by artful_lounger
CEng is administered by the Engineering Council, of which the IET is one of (along with the JBM, IMechE, IChemE and so on).

You would need to complete an accredited BEng or MEng programme and in the former case then satisfy the "further learning" by either completing an accredited MSc or building a portfolio of work while working (or sometimes while doing a PhD/EngD) in the sector that you submit for assessment which will fulfill the requirement. The latter process is much longer and more difficult to achieve in some senses.

You then have a period of work based learning, which also has some portfolio requirements, and after that you get CEng.

Or something along those lines...

For most people on this website, step one is to get an engineering degree. You will normally end up having talks by various engineering bodies during the degree and often your tutor/director of studies will make some recommendations about the education requirement if you're on the BEng. After that you need to be working in industry no matter what, and your employer will probably encourage you to pursue it, and help support you in the process with advice and so on, as it's a nice thing for them to say "x % of our engineers have CEng status" etc.


Thanks :smile:
Reply 13
Original post by United2810
So is it even worth applying for a year in industry course?


Yes.
Original post by United2810
So is it even worth applying for a year in industry course?


As with the MEng, it's normally possible to "transfer" into the year in industry version of a specific course. There's really no requirement in applying to them directly unless you are applying to such a course with a foundation year. Once you're at the university and are achieving the required grades, it's normally just a simple matter of administration to change between them. Bear in mind this does vary somewhat between universities, and for some the MEng or year in industry courses may have a cap on spaces - thus if you are very keen on it, it's reasonable to apply for that in the first instance. But if you don't, or change your mind etc, it's normally not an issue.

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