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Why are Tory voters poor and uneducated?

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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
That is becuase the right cannot get its act toegther.

Hayek and Freidmann come from a time when the right could actually make arguments. Pull your collective finger out of your arse and actually do something about it. Stop complaining about systematic structural barriers to your side in the market place of ideas and pull yourself up by your bootstraps (sounf familiar?). Academia is the only place where the very right wing complain of structural bias. A tip from me would be to stop treating the idea of understanding the sociology of humans as being an inherently cultural marxist project.

It doesn't look good when the only places your ideas can surive the natural selection process is outside of universties where there is much less effort to be scientific in anything and where Fox News exists to prop up your ******** regardless of any kind of scrutiny.


Are you ok?

How determined do you have to be to inflate 3 sentences which didn't contain any opinions, and then proceed to write lengthy paragraphs full of assumptions.

Sorry to clear your cloud of idiocy, but..

No, I'm not Conservative, so don't bother mentioning the 'pull yourself up by the bootstraps reference'.

No, Im not even complaining about such a bias, merely pointing it out.

No, I wasn't complaining about 'systematic structural barriers'

No, I'm not treating the understanding of sociology of humans as a Marxist project - really don't know how a genius such as yourself was able to disect that from my small comment.

And then you just proceed to piggy back off your false premises to have a rant at Fox news.

My god, this may actually be the most callous, egotistical, vain, annoying, vindictive, narcissistic, and downright stupid comment I've ever read.

Please, don't respond to me, I've lost enough braincells from reading your rhetoric.
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I'm surprised the term "neoliberal" didn't make it in there. :biggrin:

I mean, universities at undergraduate level and in the social sciences more specifically, are some of the most artificial incubators of ideas out there. They're not a market place of ideas, nor are they hugely "scientific" in anything that resembles the usual meaning of the term, when you look for instance at how studies in psychology fare (outside of the study of IQ.) Also, the bias also extends to the mainstream media and to pop culture, where cliquish castigation for supporting "right wing" ideas is prevalent. No surprise, since the institutions churning out the individuals staffing these institutions tend to be the self-same universities, colleges etc. It even extends to the Silicon Valley giants, in a way that is very difficult to deny.

But the point here is that being more "educated" doesn't translate to being more "informed" in the political sense, and as I demonstrated, it's not like Labour has any actual advantage over the Tories when it comes to the "educated", like it does with young women, it's more that the Tories' lead eclipses a bit. I don't think the Tories - with a few notable exceptions - are a good conservative party in any sense, nor do I think they differ much from non-Corbynista Labour. They're just what we're stuck with.
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Most Tory voters are dull-normal,ugly white bigots who fall for the Tories' race-baiting without realizing that the working classes of ALL groups should unite to fight the greedy overlords who are using their Tory sock puppets to divide the 99.9999% while Tory policies help the filthy rich loot average lads and lasses.
They’re either poor or rich. Not in between.
It's actually the opposite
Stage 1: Filthy rich individuals acquire control over most major private media sources. Stage 2: Right wing media seeks to play identity politics and drive wedges between convenient demographics. Run smear stories against any opponents, especially leaders of the Labour Party.Stage 3: Rely on base instincts and ill-informed readership to swallow the BS and keep voting in a party which shafts most save for the well off and large corporaitons.Stage 4: Call left wing populists Marxists and hope enough people believe it.Stages 1-3 have been a success, still waiting to see how Stage 4 pans out.
Original post by TCA2b
I'm surprised the term "neoliberal" didn't make it in there. :biggrin:

I mean, universities at undergraduate level and in the social sciences more specifically, are some of the most artificial incubators of ideas out there. They're not a market place of ideas, nor are they hugely "scientific" in anything that resembles the usual meaning of the term, when you look for instance at how studies in psychology fare (outside of the study of IQ.) Also, the bias also extends to the mainstream media and to pop culture, where cliquish castigation for supporting "right wing" ideas is prevalent. No surprise, since the institutions churning out the individuals staffing these institutions tend to be the self-same universities, colleges etc. It even extends to the Silicon Valley giants, in a way that is very difficult to deny.

But the point here is that being more "educated" doesn't translate to being more "informed" in the political sense, and as I demonstrated, it's not like Labour has any actual advantage over the Tories when it comes to the "educated", like it does with young women, it's more that the Tories' lead eclipses a bit. I don't think the Tories - with a few notable exceptions - are a good conservative party in any sense, nor do I think they differ much from non-Corbynista Labour. They're just what we're stuck with.


It isn't rocket science. Progressivism by definition is about using evidence to guide policy, rather than gut feeling. Education was the strongest correlator out of any other in the Brexit vote, and it's not hard to explain why.
Original post by Midlander
It isn't rocket science. Progressivism by definition is about using evidence to guide policy, rather than gut feeling. Education was the strongest correlator out of any other in the Brexit vote, and it's not hard to explain why.


Fly by assertions that have already been dealt with. ‘Progressivism’ claims to be that but is not.
Original post by TCA2b
Fly by assertions that have already been dealt with. ‘Progressivism’ claims to be that but is not.


No it seems empirical evidence supports the claim that Tory voters are either poorly educated, rich or both. As shown by the morons they have running the show at the moment.
Original post by intelligent con
Almost all polls show that the higher educated someone is the more likely they are to vote Labour, even when age is accounted for. Additionally the higher earning professionals tend to be more likely to vote labour compared to those on lower wages.

From my experience, this can't be more accurate. Almost every Tory I've met is generally a chav who hangs around street corners with a bottle of frosty jacks and a stolen pack of ****. The question is what attracts these people to the tories. The answer is the Tories rely on simplistic answers to complex questions which appeal to the less educated. The Tories know how much they rely on the uneducated demographic hence the massive cuts to schools in an attempt to create a new generation of Tory voters.

In my opinion, its because they're bitter that their lack of education means they can't get a job so blame immigrants and the EU. Anyone have any alternate theories?


So true and utterly disheartening and infuriating that these morons who vote Tory cause themselves and others to suffer because they so stupid. Can't we have a cull of all meat heads and morons.
Original post by jimmyrich78
So true and utterly disheartening and infuriating that these morons who vote Tory cause themselves and others to suffer because they so stupid. Can't we have a cull of all meat heads and morons.

*puts specs on*
So, you want to kill all Tories and ”meat heads”?
I have found a Twitter page inhabited by genocidal nutters like you - you might like to join it. https://mobile.twitter.com/classwar2015?lang=fi May I suggest you read a decent book before you post your offensive tripe?
I was recently talking to some people who think the tories are brilliant along with Donold Trump. Yes these people claim benefits that were introduced by a Labour government. So l said if you think the Tories are that good concidering all the harsh Austerity measures that they have put us all through for the last ten years. So l said surrender your benefits l mean come on. You cannot claim benefits that were introduced by a Labour goverment then call Jeremy Corbyn a nutter. Corbyn is one of the best people to run this country. He will get rid of the bedroom tax. Give us back our railways. Socialism is a great thing. It is not selfish it help the many not a few. What are people scared of. People need reeducating. There is a difference between communism n Socialism. Plus corbyn gets accused of mixing with the IRA l mean come on if you have to do peace talks you sit in the same room as them. Not 2 streets away to show the massess that you are not with them l was being sarcastic then. Because the masses of idiots that vote tories and they are working class make me sick. I think the only reason a working class person would vote Tory is a class thing. Because they think being poor is a crime. The reason the most of us are poor is because of the tories. Money never trickels down from the rich to the poorest in society. It is us little cogs in the wheels of the society keeping those at the top in the manner that they have been accustomed to. I detest everything a Tory stands for. I remember living through a 3 day week under a heath Government. Then wait for it the delightful Mrs Evil Thatcher. If you look in the bible. It talks about the world waiting for the Lawless man. The lawless man is anyone that goes against God. Well in my opinion l think that lawless person is Donold Trump. He is not what he seems.
Original post by JJESUSCHRIST
I was recently talking to some people who think the tories are brilliant along with Donold Trump. Yes these people claim benefits that were introduced by a Labour government. So l said if you think the Tories are that good concidering all the harsh Austerity measures that they have put us all through for the last ten years. So l said surrender your benefits l mean come on. You cannot claim benefits that were introduced by a Labour goverment then call Jeremy Corbyn a nutter. Corbyn is one of the best people to run this country. He will get rid of the bedroom tax. Give us back our railways. Socialism is a great thing. It is not selfish it help the many not a few. What are people scared of. People need reeducating. There is a difference between communism n Socialism. Plus corbyn gets accused of mixing with the IRA l mean come on if you have to do peace talks you sit in the same room as them. Not 2 streets away to show the massess that you are not with them l was being sarcastic then. Because the masses of idiots that vote tories and they are working class make me sick. I think the only reason a working class person would vote Tory is a class thing. Because they think being poor is a crime. The reason the most of us are poor is because of the tories. Money never trickels down from the rich to the poorest in society. It is us little cogs in the wheels of the society keeping those at the top in the manner that they have been accustomed to. I detest everything a Tory stands for. I remember living through a 3 day week under a heath Government. Then wait for it the delightful Mrs Evil Thatcher. If you look in the bible. It talks about the world waiting for the Lawless man. The lawless man is anyone that goes against God. Well in my opinion l think that lawless person is Donold Trump. He is not what he seems.

So socialism is great and Tories are class traitors who need re-educating?

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Original post by PilgrimOfTruth
Only ever voted Tory once in my life.

What I am though is 100% NOT an "Old Compo" comrade Corbyn supporter.
The man is a complete sham with a reprehensible history. You don't need to be educated to see his duplicity at every turn. His U-Turn and deceit of the young electorate was shameful. His U-Turn on BrExit was a national disgrace.

He continues to be Looney Labour's biggest problem. He continues to damage the party almost irrevocably along with his militant hard left Momentum thugs and yobs.

Beggars belief that they haven't ousted him yet but won't be long now.


More electable than chaos under Ed Milliband though.

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