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    Armed police in Spain have raided several print works and newspaper offices in Catalonia in recent days in a hunt for voting papers, ballot boxes and leaflets to be used in an Oct. 1 independence referendum which Madrid vehemently opposes.

    A spokesman for the Catalan regional government declined to say where the ballot boxes were or how the government was going to get them out of hiding to voting stations on Oct. 1.

    Madrid has the constitutional power to take over a regional government or send in the police to force Catalonia to drop the vote, but either step would rock Spain's decentralized model of government where power is devolved to 17 self-governed regions.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1BQ2MZ
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    Civil wars have been started over less.
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    And now Hungary has followed Scotland by saying it will respect the peoples' vote in the referendum

    http://www.politico.eu/article/hunga...atalonia-vote/

    Wtf were Spain thinking?!
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    And now Spain are raiding Catalan government agencies, telecommunications centres, and arrested several government officials.

    http://www.ara.cat/politica/Guardia-...873012787.html (Spanish)
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/20/span...ence-vote.html (English)

    Over the weekend Spain’s Guardia Civil confiscated more than 1.3m pro-independence posters, flyers and pamphlets.

    On Tuesday they raided the offices of Spain’s biggest private delivery company Unipost and seized over 45,000 envelopes that the Catalan government was to send to notify people about the referendum.

    Police have also threatened legal action against individuals organising the vote, including mayors, politicians and even ordinary people helping at the polling station.
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    This should be ripe ground for Podemos to exploit.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    And now Spain are raiding Catalan government agencies, telecommunications centres, and arrested several government officials.

    http://www.ara.cat/politica/Guardia-...873012787.html (Spanish)
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/20/span...ence-vote.html (English)

    Over the weekend Spain’s Guardia Civil confiscated more than 1.3m pro-independence posters, flyers and pamphlets.

    On Tuesday they raided the offices of Spain’s biggest private delivery company Unipost and seized over 45,000 envelopes that the Catalan government was to send to notify people about the referendum.

    Police have also threatened legal action against individuals organising the vote, including mayors, politicians and even ordinary people helping at the polling station.
    The ECHR is going to have a field day with this, surely. What charges do the police hope to bring? It's surely not illegal for a local administration to run what is effectively a glorified opinion poll. I'm not that well-versed in Spanish law, though.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    The ECHR is going to have a field day with this, surely. What charges do the police hope to bring? It's surely not illegal for a local administration to run what is effectively a glorified opinion poll. I'm not that well-versed in Spanish law, though.
    Disobedience
    Deceipt
    Misuse of public funds

    That's the three things I read.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    This should be ripe ground for Podemos to exploit.
    Until the separatists start using terror attacks. That's pretty much the only way they'd be able to get what they want if Spain decides to occupy Catalan government buildings.
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    its ****ing strange for catalans who said they want to leave spain because spain ask them to pay more tax than they receive, only to join EU after that. as if EU wont ask them to pay more than they receive to bail out greece and others
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    (Original post by HucktheForde)
    its ****ing strange for catalans who said they want to leave spain because spain ask them to pay more tax than they receive, only to join EU after that. as if EU wont ask them to pay more than they receive to bail out greece and others
    The EU doesn't spend their money on occupying their state with armed police raiding their government buildings. And leaving the EU is always an option for the people of any state within it, whereas there is no real legal option for Catalan to exit from Spain.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    The EU doesn't spend their money on occupying their state with armed police raiding their government buildings. And leaving the EU is always an option for the people of any state within it, whereas there is no real legal option for Catalan to exit from Spain.
    If they didnt try that referendum stunt no buildings would be raided.
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    (Original post by HucktheForde)
    If they didnt try that referendum stunt no buildings would be raided.
    If someone kidnaps you, locks you in a cellar, but treats you nicely, so long as you stay in your cellar; then beats you up when you try to escape: who is at fault for the beating?
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    If someone kidnaps you, locks you in a cellar, but treats you nicely, so long as you stay in your cellar; then beats you up when you try to escape: who is at fault for the beating?
    You are talking as if catalans want to leave because of spanish government raiding their buildings. Its actually quite the opposite.


    Lets put this in correct context. If i am born in a family i didnt choose. Family is not perfect and not rich but much better than other abusive family eg pakistan cuba venezuela. Family has a house. I start to hate my family, but instead of leaving the house and live somewhere i demand to partition my room out of the house. How selfish is that?
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    (Original post by HucktheForde)
    its ****ing strange for catalans who said they want to leave spain because spain ask them to pay more tax than they receive, only to join EU after that. as if EU wont ask them to pay more than they receive to bail out greece and others
    well it is spain...
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    well it is spain...
    That would be the ultimate irony. Leave spain for financial purpose. Joins EU and still have to pay to bsilout spain.
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    (Original post by HucktheForde)
    That would be the ultimate irony. Leave spain for financial purpose. Joins EU and still have to pay to bsilout spain.
    from what i see on the news spain is always weird in the bad way
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    EU are rather silent on all of this?
 
 
 
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