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    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...full-tp6dzs7wn

    Top 3 unchanged with Cambridge at #1
    Loughborough now in the top 10.
    LSE drops out of the top 10 to 11th.
    Exeter drops out of top 10 to 14th.
    Glasgow into the top 20.

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    Rank 2018 : Rank 2017 : University
    1 : 1 : University of Cambridge
    2 : 2 : University of Oxford
    3 : 3 : University of St Andrews
    4 : 5 : Imperial College London
    5 : 4 : Durham University
    6 : 9= : Lancaster University
    7= : 6 : University College London
    7= : 11 : Loughborough University
    9 : 7 : University of Warwick
    10 : 13 : University of Leeds

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    11 : 8 : London School of Economics and Political Science
    12 : 12 : University of Bath
    13 : 15 : University of East Anglia
    14 : 9= : University of Exeter
    15 : 16 : University of Birmingham
    16= : 19 : University of Bristol
    16= : 17 : University of York
    18 : 20 : University of Nottingham
    19 : 14 : University of Surrey
    20 : 29 : University of Glasgow
    21 : 24 : University of Sheffield
    22 : 30 : University of Essex
    23 : 28 : University of Dundee
    24 : 37= : University of Edinburgh
    25 : 32 : University of Manchester
    26 : 22 : Newcastle University
    27 : 18 : University of Sussex
    28= : 27 : King's College London
    28= : 34 : Royal Holloway, University of London
    30 : 21 : University of Southampton









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    As well as institutional ranking, The Sunday Times and The Times have identified the centres of excellence within each of 67 subject areas. The subject rankings are based on student opinion on teaching quality and their wider university experience, combined with the outcomes of the 2014 research assessments, graduate job prospects and course entry standards.

    Cambridge holds top position in 30 subjects, including Maths, Law, Economics. Oxford is top in 5 subjects, including Medicine. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Loughborough, St Andrews and Strathclyde have 3 each.


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    Some things to consider about this:

    1) As someone with experience of teaching at both Exeter and Bath, I can say Exeter is far superior so I immediately don't trust this list, and am going to look up what metrics they are using to rank these unis.

    2) I heard that there is this huge bias in most newspaper-compiled lists to Universities with Nobel prize winners (that includes if staff won a nobel prize there then moved). As most Nobel laureates work at Russell Group universities, this takes a huge amount of focus away from newer universities that may be doing brilliant research and offer great teaching.

    Saying that, Bath is probably the youngest university in this list having only existed 50 years, and im fairly certain they dont have any Nobel laureates
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    (Original post by QuentinM)
    Some things to consider about this:

    1) As someone with experience of teaching at both Exeter and Bath, I can say Exeter is far superior so I immediately don't trust this list, and am going to look up what metrics they are using to rank these unis.

    2) I heard that there is this huge bias in most newspaper-compiled lists to Universities with Nobel prize winners (that includes if staff won a nobel prize there then moved). As most Nobel laureates work at Russell Group universities, this takes a huge amount of focus away from newer universities that may be doing brilliant research and offer great teaching.

    Saying that, Bath is probably the youngest university in this list having only existed 50 years, and im fairly certain they dont have any Nobel laureates
    1) they both got Golds in the recent TEF so overall quality of teaching is pretty good. Although it's not at a subject specific level yet.

    2) Nobels are not counted in the methodology... Not least because they aren't available in all subject areas. (A former Bath researcher won one in 2010.)

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    loughborough > LSE ???

    il have what hes smoking
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    (Original post by MathMan+C)
    loughborough > LSE ???

    il have what hes smoking
    Wholelottatruth right here. LSE probably gets dragged down for it's low satisfaction score but that's not a decent reason.

    Anyway Warwick is my first choice so ayy.
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    Someone get me a pair of glasses ... mmm... where is Warwick?
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    (Original post by Lilsthebest)
    Someone get me a pair of glasses ... mmm... where is Warwick?
    We haven't seen anything yet from them, as we don't yet actually have the full ranking list

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    No real surprises for me. People can debate that 1 uni should be higher than others, but the way in which these are calculated means all it takes is slight margins in differences on different markers and you go up the ranks a fair amount.

    Universities like Bath that have a stronger reputation in providing industrial placement year courses will always win out on the employability stats/graduate prospects, and so will be higher.
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    (Original post by Lilsthebest)
    Someone get me a pair of glasses ... mmm... where is Warwick?
    (Original post by DreamlinerFinder)
    We haven't seen anything yet from them, as we don't yet actually have the full ranking list

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    Two places above LSE.
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    The full rankings will be published on Sunday, but from early press releases the top universities look like this:

    Top 3 unchanged with Cambridge at #1
    Loughborough now in the top 10.
    LSE drops out of the top 10 to 11th.
    Exeter drops out of top 10 to 14th.
    Glasgow into the top 20.

    Rank 2018 : Rank 2017 : University
    1 : 1 : Cambridge
    2 : 2 : Oxford
    3 : 3 : St Andrews
    4 : 5 : Imperial
    5 : 4 : Durham
    6 : 9= : Lancaster
    7= : 6 : UCL
    7= : 11 : Loughborough
    9 : 7 : Warwick
    10 : 13 : Leeds
    11 : 8 : LSE
    12 : 12 : Bath
    13 : 15 : University of East Anglia
    14 : 9= : Exeter
    15 : 16 : Birmingham
    16= : 19 : Bristol
    16= : 17 : York
    18 : 20 : Nottingham
    19 tbc
    20 : 29 : Glasgow

    I will update the OP as more info arrives
    St Andrew's above imperial and UCL???
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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    St Andrew's above imperial and UCL???
    As per last year, and the same for CUG and The Guardian rankings too.

    So... yes.
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    As per last year, and the same for CUG and The Guardian rankings too.

    So... yes.
    How?
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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    How?
    Rankings depend on methodologies. Check the methodology...
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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    St Andrew's above imperial and UCL???
    pretty sure that st andrews has almost always been above UCL in domestic league tables
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    I've never paid much attention with Uni rankings but pleasant (I guess) to see three of the Unis I plan on applying to on there.
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    ......................who cares ? i thought league tables were irrelevant
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    (Original post by Acend1992)
    ......................who cares ? i thought league tables were irrelevant
    Well, even if they are, this is a student website. It's either discussing league tables or we go back to discussing what it means when a girl reads your Facebook message but doesn't reply. League tables are marginally more interesting.
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    (Original post by Notorious_B.I.G.)
    Well, even if they are, this is a student website. It's either discussing league tables or we go back to discussing what it means when a girl reads your Facebook message but doesn't reply. League tables are marginally more interesting.
    or brexit and Islam

    it's basically the whole forum,
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    [QUOTE=Doonesbury;73858558]The full rankings will be published on Sunday, but from early press releases the top universities look like this:

    Top 3 unchanged with Cambridge at #1
    Loughborough now in the top 10.
    LSE drops out of the top 10 to 11th.
    Exeter drops out of top 10 to 14th.
    Glasgow into the top 20.


    Why is LSE still so highly ranked above so many unis when it is falling in every rankings year by year and got bronze in the TEF recently? Like surely all of these statistics mean something
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    World rankings (imo) are a better way to gauge how good your university is compared to others, both in the UK and across the world.
 
 
 
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