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    okay, i will probably get a lot of hate for this but....
    Am I the only one who thinks people should have to say what gender (originally) they are in formal **** e.g passports, health records
    I don't care what people identify themselves and I have no problem with people who are transgender or something but I feel like its basic and necessary in formal documents to say what a person is biologically
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    okay, i will probably get a lot of hate for this but....
    Am I the only one who thinks people should have to say what gender (originally) they are in formal **** e.g passports, health records
    I don't care what people identify themselves and I have no problem with people who are transgender or something but I feel like its basic and necessary in formal documents to say what a person is biologically
    I think if someone was born with a penis they're a male
    a vagina = female.
    transgender = so male = tmale, female = tfemale. etc.
    (lets say you trans from male to attack hellicopter, I'd still say you'd be a tmale and thats it)

    Obviously later on you can identify as what you want. But ya, for passports, birth certificates etc it'd be easier, less storage space on the computer, less hassle etc.
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    (Original post by Relentas)
    I think if someone was born with a penis they're a male
    a vagina = female.
    transgender = so male = tmale, female = tfemale. etc.
    (lets say you trans from male to attack hellicopter, I'd still say you'd be a tmale and thats it)

    Obviously later on you can identify as what you want. But ya, for passports, birth certificates etc it'd be easier, less storage space on the computer, less hassle etc.
    exactly I don't know why it's a debate its simple really lol
    and when you pint this out people get butthurt over it
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    I think that makes an assumption that all transgender bodies are the same. If a trans-woman is post-op should she really have to say what biologically used to be when she doesn't even have a penis anymore? And should anyone pre-op have to declare that when it might just make them dysphoric while trying to enjoy a holiday?

    And does it really matter on a passport? Obviously it matters for medical stuff but for travel what difference does it make if your gender expression doesn't 'match up' with what's in your pants?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    exactly I don't know why it's a debate its simple really lol
    and when you pint this out people get butthurt over it
    Yea, I agree tbh. you can be what you want when your older as long as you just label your passport as what you were born as or something.
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    Agreed. Doesn't matter if someone identifies as a holicopter :erm:
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    There are only 2 genders
    Male and female
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    (Original post by Harold Saxon)
    I sexually identify as a wheat field.
    Good for you !!
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    (Original post by crocodile_ears)
    I think that makes an assumption that all transgender bodies are the same. If a trans-woman is post-op should she really have to say what biologically used to be when she doesn't even have a penis anymore? And should anyone pre-op have to declare that when it might just make them dysphoric while trying to enjoy a holiday?

    And does it really matter on a passport? Obviously it matters for medical stuff but for travel what difference does it make if your gender expression doesn't 'match up' with what's in your pants?
    Unless the op has changed their cells (thus chromosomes) to divide and change configuration form XX to XY or vise versa they should still be considered biologically the same gender as they went in as. Just my opinion.
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    (Original post by chewy suarez)
    There are only 2 genders
    Male and female
    "chewy suarez" lol that made me laugh great name
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    "chewy suarez" lol that made me laugh great name
    Thanks
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    (Original post by chewy suarez)
    Thanks
    ur welcome i dont know why but it made me laugh so much
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Unless the op has changed their cells (thus chromosomes) to divide and change configuration form XX to XY or vise versa they should still be considered biologically the same gender as they went in as. Just my opinion.
    exactly
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    (Original post by crocodile_ears)
    I think that makes an assumption that all transgender bodies are the same. If a trans-woman is post-op should she really have to say what biologically used to be when she doesn't even have a penis anymore? And should anyone pre-op have to declare that when it might just make them dysphoric while trying to enjoy a holiday?
    And does it really matter on a passport? Obviously it matters for medical stuff but for travel what difference does it make if your gender expression doesn't 'match up' with what's in your pants?
    okay lets say somebody faints in an airport their probably gonna look at the passport and not down their (the persons)pants!
    and when somebody's traveling it is really important to have the facts about a person
    when you go to a foreign country your given a sheet where you have to write your personal info eg age,date of birth, gender,any health problems so that the country you go know what there dealing with lol
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    (Original post by starfab)
    Agreed. Doesn't matter if someone identifies as a holicopter :erm:
    LOL
 
 
 
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