Jaw Surgery on the NHS

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I started my process for a double jaw surgery for an under bite when I was 22. they didn't talk about costs and I would say 10mm is on the larger scale (mine was 9mm) so you should be fine. my only thing I have to warn you is that it took an age for the whe thing. in what was meant to be 2 year process from start to end took 3.5 years. I lost the plot because I was sick and tired of wearing braces and I wanted the whole thing over and done with. so I recommend a lot of patience.

but in the end it was the best thing I ever did.

best of luck of to you 🤞
Thanks for your reply!

Tbh I've kinda given up hope that it will happen as I've been reffered back and forth a few times now with no one really knowing what the process is. After reading through all the above comments again it sounds like I need to be referred to the orthodontic department in the hospital. I may give it one more try 🤞
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I’m 16 years of age and I went to my dentist a few days ago (first time in 3 years as referrals from orthodontists were suppose to be sent but we’re never sent and my mothers too busy with my disabled little brother) anyway towards the end of the appointment I was told that he would like to refer me to get surgery to move my lower jaw forward more, now to say the least I’m anxious and really worried about this! Was it my fault? Do I need this surgery? Will it help? Is the pain worth it? Will there be any pain? I have so many more questions.... I have an overjet of 13mm and no one I know has the same issues any advise
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Thanks for your reply!

Tbh I've kinda given up hope that it will happen as I've been reffered back and forth a few times now with no one really knowing what the process is. After reading through all the above comments again it sounds like I need to be referred to the orthodontic department in the hospital. I may give it one more try
you're welcome 👍

yup, the orthodontic department at the hospital is the starting point because the braces and teeth alignment is the first and most time consuming part. I was referred via my normal dentist.
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I’m 16 years of age and I went to my dentist a few days ago (first time in 3 years as referrals from orthodontists were suppose to be sent but we’re never sent and my mothers too busy with my disabled little brother) anyway towards the end of the appointment I was told that he would like to refer me to get surgery to move my lower jaw forward more, now to say the least I’m anxious and really worried about this! Was it my fault? Do I need this surgery? Will it help? Is the pain worth it? Will there be any pain? I have so many more questions.... I have an overjet of 13mm and no one I know has the same issues any advise
Hi mate,

hope all is well.

First of all why was it your fault? you've done nothing wrong.

in terms of doing the surgery, it all depends if its affecting you physically such as difficulties in eating or in my case if its affecting you mentally. if your answer is yes to both then you might as well do it.

I was in the same position as you 11 years ago. where at the age of 16 I was offered to start the process of braces and jaw surgery after that but i chickened out. In the end I hated my appearance so much that I started the process when I was 22/23, after 2.5 years of braces I got the surgery done and then I had one year of post op braces.

I massively regret not doing this when I was 16.

with the being said, appearances is all about perception. ultimately if you feel happy within yourself then there is no need to do any surgery and live life in happiness.

best of luck.
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Hi Can you still play rugby, are you not worried about offsetting the jaw
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Hi Can you still play rugby, are you not worried about offsetting the jaw
I was able to continue playing rugby after my jaw had healed, though I went back earlier than recommended with the surgeons permission. I'm out now due to a ruptured acl but the jaw never gave me any problems.
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Hi,I have the same regret but I waited 10 years. I was offered this treatment at 18 and I was too afraid to go through with it as their description scared the life out of me. Fast forward 10 years and I've got an appointment today to see where I stand. I would say go for it if you're 50/50, at least by my age it'll be sorted and you won't have to go through your 30th with braces on 😊
(Original post by hazukasad)
I started my process for a double jaw surgery for an under bite when I was 22. they didn't talk about costs and I would say 10mm is on the larger scale (mine was 9mm) so you should be fine. my only thing I have to warn you is that it took an age for the whe thing. in what was meant to be 2 year process from start to end took 3.5 years. I lost the plot because I was sick and tired of wearing braces and I wanted the whole thing over and done with. so I recommend a lot of patience.

but in the end it was the best thing I ever did.

best of luck of to you 🤞
I was offered this at 17 and turned it down. Now I'm no longer scared and just want to get it done. I have had braces for 3 years and am worried about the enamel on my teeth. I also don't know whether I'll need them on the lower because I initially said I wanted them only on top. I think because my treatment was started before I was 18 I am still entitled to get my underbite fixed, though I don't know how many millimetres it is, and I can still eat fine. Either way I think it will take years to have the surgery, and I'm worried about the effect on my education.
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Hi! Thought I would share my own little story as I’m feeling impatient and I’m worried about how the COVID situation will affect my waiting times!!I was told when I was about 14 I would need combined orthognathic treatment for my overjet/overbite plus the added complication of hypodontia. Because of my age they suggested I wait till I was over 18 so my jaw/dentals could develop fully. Flash forward to a couple years ago and I brought it up to my dentist who then referred me to the orthodontist. Whilst personally the aesthetic aspect was arguably the most important, I was and still am suffering from TMJ pain and constant discomfort. Plus, my overbite is 100% meaning my bottom teeth hit my upper palette which in the future could cause a lot of problems. After multiple appointments I was then referred to the specialist combined orthodontic/orthognathic department. I also was worried that as I was over 18 I would have to pay, especially as my overjet is *only* about 4mm/5mm. However as the dentist said, because of my 100% overjet it could cause a lot of damage. Plus I was told that when I get braces, it would push my top teeth forward (as they are currently slanted inwards) so much my overbite would increase to 9mm 😧. So the plan is to remove an impacted wisdom tooth (which is also rotated 90 degrees inwards, yikes), to allow space for my teeth to move as I have quite a small jaw. Then firstly get top braces, to push forward my inclined teeth and curved arches and then bottom braces to help straighten them a bit better. Then bottom jaw surgery to push it forward to meet my top teeth! I was placed on the waiting list about 10 months ago now, but I’m really nervous about how long I will be waiting for things to start happening. Especially given now that all dental procedures were halted due to COVID (and thus the warnings of 18 month waiting lists until the actual waiting lists gett seen again), I’m worried I’m going to be in my mid to late 20s before I get anything! (I’m currently 20). I know I shouldn’t complain, trust me the value and respect I have for the NHS is infinite, and I know it’s not the NHS’ fault that these huge waiting lists even exist. I guess I just like to know exactly when things are happening ASAP 😂 plus I’m currently writing this as I’ve had quite a bad TMJ flare up today Is the wait worth it? I love reading people’s stories of their ortho journey Thank you for listening to my rant 😩
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Hi I dont no if anyone still writes on here but I have a crossbite which is pretty bad I grind my teeth really bad when I'm asleep when I can sleep.. I have constant pain in my jaw everyday really bad pains down my back and face its just horrible to live with. The grinding of my teeth has really worn my teeth down to a point its cracking them all but the main problem for me is my whole face ive never really liked pictures only if I take them myself but recently someone took a picture of me and I noticed my jaw/chin looked asif it had moved more over to the left side of my face basically lopsided my whole eyebrow had even lowerd im waiting on a appointment to see the tmj department im really hoping for surgery not only for the pain but also my facial appearance😪 do you guys think I would be able to have the surgery
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Hi I dont no if anyone still writes on here but I have a crossbite which is pretty bad I grind my teeth really bad when I'm asleep when I can sleep.. I have constant pain in my jaw everyday really bad pains down my back and face its just horrible to live with. The grinding of my teeth has really worn my teeth down to a point its cracking them all but the main problem for me is my whole face ive never really liked pictures only if I take them myself but recently someone took a picture of me and I noticed my jaw/chin looked asif it had moved more over to the left side of my face basically lopsided my whole eyebrow had even lowerd im waiting on a appointment to see the tmj department im really hoping for surgery not only for the pain but also my facial appearance😪 do you guys think I would be able to have the surgery
This is from 3 years ago...
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This is from 3 years ago...
Ino but ino people may have had there appointments over and done with so wanted to see how they got on and for any advice on my problem
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Hi I dont no if anyone still writes on here but I have a crossbite which is pretty bad I grind my teeth really bad when I'm asleep when I can sleep.. I have constant pain in my jaw everyday really bad pains down my back and face its just horrible to live with. The grinding of my teeth has really worn my teeth down to a point its cracking them all but the main problem for me is my whole face ive never really liked pictures only if I take them myself but recently someone took a picture of me and I noticed my jaw/chin looked asif it had moved more over to the left side of my face basically lopsided my whole eyebrow had even lowerd im waiting on a appointment to see the tmj department im really hoping for surgery not only for the pain but also my facial appearance😪 do you guys think I would be able to have the surgery
Hi!! From the sounds of things, I would say yes. Mainly because of the fact it’s damaging your teeth, which I would say is an important enough reason for at least some kind of NHS treatment. Did your dentist refer you? If your dentist thinks you’re suitable then that is a good sign. The NHS uses a grading system to determine which patients can be provided the service, here is a link https://www.bos.org.uk/BOS-Homepage/...at-Is-The-IOTN. This goes the same for adults too. Anything above a grade 4 is a definite for NHS treatment, and Grade 3’s are usually a case by case basis. I have seen that it also depends a lot on which area you live in as some NHS hospitals are more lenient than others! In terms of actual jaw surgery, I would assume that would be the best way forward for you if your cross bite is bad. I know they can use orthodontics and appliances in some cases but I would have thought they would prefer you to have stopped growing to ensure no more jaw movement which in that case surgery would be the most common procedure. Anyways I hope this helps somewhat
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