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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Do you really think that Mogg can get the votes of the young?

    Bear in mind that the average age of the Tory conference was 58.

    The real star in your party is Ruth Davidson and if you choose Mogg over her, it will be quite something.
    She's not an MP though, so not eligible.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    All entirely pointless, will be forgotten in a week and is making the city centre really fecking annoying.

    Protesters decided that the best way to have a go at the Tories was to block off all the tram lines, causing delays to the entire network. Inconveniencing precisely zero politicians, but a few hundred thousand commuters. Really helpful.
    No issues at the labour conference from the right or Tory supporters....
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    (Original post by Ladbants)
    Just plain rude, she is a the leader of a country, should be treated with respect no matter whether you like or hate her policies.
    Respect is earned not given.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Do you really think that Mogg can get the votes of the young? The reason that the young are attracted to Corbyn is that he talks about issues that are important to them. Why would Mogg appeal to them?

    Bear in mind that the average age of the Tory conference was 58.

    The real star in your party is Ruth Davidson and if you choose Mogg over her, it will be quite something.
    The Choice will be Johnson or Davies and they won’t choose the former.

    Davison isn’t eligible as she isn’t an mp and the competition should really have been between Rudd and Davies but her majority is tiny.

    It’s a shame really as I think she’s the best they have as a post brexit leader
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    (Original post by Ladbants)
    Just plain rude, she is a the leader of a country, should be treated with respect no matter whether you like or hate her policies.
    Completely agree we don’t treat politicians with any deference what so ever
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Do you really think that Mogg can get the votes of the young? The reason that the young are attracted to Corbyn is that he talks about issues that are important to them. Why would Mogg appeal to them?

    Bear in mind that the average age of the Tory conference was 58.

    The real star in your party is Ruth Davidson and if you choose Mogg over her, it will be quite something.
    In terms of attracting the young i think the two primary things that drew the under 30's to Labour were scrapping tuition fees/student debt and housing as opposed to relating to them (bearing in mind that even in 2017 most young people are not bought and paid members of the Corbyn cult). In terms of tuition fees i certainly don't want to see the party follow Labour albeit reform of the system is needed (probably to a graduate tax and deposit system). In terms of housing i think that Mogg probably could propose a viable solution to match/beat Corbyn's offer.

    Mainly though i think the 30-50 age bracket is more important than the youth per say though and i don't think they are anywhere near as loyal to Labour as some people imagine. I think that a broader and more ambitious policy offer can swing many voters bearing in mind that we don't face a monumental task now that we are back to two party democracy.

    I never stated that i would vote Mogg over Davidson.
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    Last years Theresa May would be furious with this citizen of nowhere incarnation of the May bot.


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    Forget Ruth, she simply isn't an option for the near future and may well never be. Scotland is her patch and what she is suited for, it would be an obstacle course for her to migrate South and cut through the established hierarchy. There is no viable alternative on the horizon at the moment. JRM is too good to be made party leader.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    The Choice will be Johnson or Davies and they won’t choose the former.

    Davison isn’t eligible as she isn’t an mp and the competition should really have been between Rudd and Davies but her majority is tiny.

    It’s a shame really as I think she’s the best they have as a post brexit leader
    It probably wouldn't be too hard for Ruth Davidson to get a seat if she wanted one though?

    Just wait/encourage a Tory MP in a safe seat to step down.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Do you really think that Mogg can get the votes of the young? The reason that the young are attracted to Corbyn is that he talks about issues that are important to them. Why would Mogg appeal to them?

    Bear in mind that the average age of the Tory conference was 57.

    The real star in your party is Ruth Davidson and if you choose Mogg over her, it will be quite something.
    Yeah, Davidson would be the one Labour should be most concerned about.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    It probably wouldn't be too hard for Ruth Davidson to get a seat if she wanted one though?

    Just wait/encourage a Tory MP in a safe seat to step down.
    She wants to be first minister.

    That aside it would have to be a Scottish mp at the very least and they have only just got in.

    It’s all too complicated, to many stars to Align so to speak
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    In terms of attracting the young i think the two primary things that drew the under 30's to Labour were scrapping tuition fees/student debt and housing as opposed to relating to them (bearing in mind that even in 2017 most young people are not bought and paid members of the Corbyn cult). In terms of tuition fees i certainly don't want to see the party follow Labour albeit reform of the system is needed (probably to a graduate tax and deposit system). In terms of housing i think that Mogg probably could propose a viable solution to match/beat Corbyn's offer.

    Mainly though i think the 30-50 age bracket is more important than the youth per say though and i don't think they are anywhere near as loyal to Labour as some people imagine. I think that a broader and more ambitious policy offer can swing many voters bearing in mind that we don't face a monumental task now that we are back to two party democracy.

    I never stated that i would vote Mogg over Davidson.
    Top issue for young people is climate change. Are they going to stop denying it yet? Also try being less racist and cut with the Citezens of Nowhere crap and you could probably win...

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...bout-cv9cx09rq

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    (Original post by Drewski)
    If a city could refuse a conference then none would ever be held.

    But don't cloud the issue; this is Labour supporters making life hell for normal people. They're not affecting politicians. They're not winning any friends.
    I’m sure it’s not just labour voters who oppose the current government, you don’t have to support an opposing party to be against a farcical PM.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    In terms of attracting the young i think the two primary things that drew the under 30's to Labour were scrapping tuition fees/student debt and housing as opposed to relating to them (bearing in mind that even in 2017 most young people are not bought and paid members of the Corbyn cult). In terms of tuition fees i certainly don't want to see the party follow Labour albeit reform of the system is needed (probably to a graduate tax and deposit system). In terms of housing i think that Mogg probably could propose a viable solution to match/beat Corbyn's offer.

    Mainly though i think the 30-50 age bracket is more important than the youth per say though and i don't think they are anywhere near as loyal to Labour as some people imagine. I think that a broader and more ambitious policy offer can swing many voters bearing in mind that we don't face a monumental task now that we are back to two party democracy.

    I never stated that i would vote Mogg over Davidson.
    I think the Conservatives are going through a bit of an identity crisis at the moment. In the west there is a general swing away from the free-market consensus. Both the right (Trump) and left (Corbyn) are benefiting from this somewhat.

    The Tories don't really know whether to accept the swing in attitudes by comprising on issues such as public spending and pay, or whether to carry on defending a system which has become increasingly unpopular.

    I'm not for a moment suggesting that the public at large wants revolutionary Socialism. But there does definitely seem to be an appetite for a Keynsian approach of public spending, house building and greater regulation of the financial markets.
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    (Original post by getfunky!)
    I’m sure it’s not just labour voters who oppose the current government, you don’t have to support an opposing party to be against a farcical PM.
    Fine, protesters of many colours.

    But they're all ********s who aren't remotely inconveniencing politicians, but instead pissing off locals.
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    (Original post by Ladbants)
    Just plain rude, she is a the leader of a country, should be treated with respect no matter whether you like or hate her policies.
    So was Hitler.
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    Oh wow that brutal comeback 1 minute later.

    "you see that joke that just got played on me well imagine the same joke except instead of me it's JEREMY CORBYN"

    *standing ovation*
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    (Original post by AmmarTa)
    So was Hitler.
    Godwin's law!

    Who had 35 replies on the sweepstake?
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Godwin's law!

    Who had 35 replies on the sweepstake?
    Bet it wasn't Hitler
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