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Hi,

I had decided on the following university choices:
Cambridge
UCL
Kings
Warwick
Birmingham

However, after not doing too well on practice tests for the LNAT I am considering only keeping UCL as my LNAT uni and swap Kings with
LSE who do not require the LNAT.

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What are your predicted grades and AS + GCSE grades?

What were your scores on your practice LNAT's?

I'm applying to LSE, UCL, Bristol, Durham and Warwick and have only done 1 LNAT practice test scoring 27 in multiple choice section, not taking LNAT till around December.
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What are your predicted grades and AS + GCSE grades?

What were your scores on your practice LNAT's?

I'm applying to LSE, UCL, Bristol, Durham and Warwick and have only done 1 LNAT practice test scoring 27 in multiple choice section, not taking LNAT till around December.
Got A's in my AS. And predicted A*AA.GCSES are 4A*s and 8 A's. My scores range from 15-30 so I am quite inconsistent. Mine is end of October since I wanted it out of the way and since my UCAS application will be submitted early.
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Got A's in my AS. And predicted A*AA.GCSES are 4A*s and 8 A's. My scores range from 15-30 so I am quite inconsistent. Mine is end of October since I wanted it out of the way and since my UCAS application will be submitted early.
Fair enough buddy, I have similar grades to you (6 A*'s, 3 A's, 1 B in iGCSE/GCSE's) and achieved A*A*A at A-level in Summer 2017 - I'm on a gap year. Just remember you'll be up against people with majority A*'s (very competitive) so its really up to you, King's is far easier to get into even if it does require LNAT.
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Fair enough buddy, I have similar grades to you (6 A*'s, 3 A's, 1 B in iGCSE/GCSE's) and achieved A*A*A at A-level in Summer 2017 - I'm on a gap year. Just remember you'll be up against people with majority A*'s (very competitive) so its really up to you, King's is far easier to get into even if it does require LNAT.
I feel like its equally hard for me just because of how bad I am with the LNAT. Hmmm, would you say my GCSE's are not good enough then?
I feel like UCL and Kings are so similar so if I apply to both I am essentially wasting a choice since if I get rejected by one I am quite likely to be rejected by the other.
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I feel like its equally hard for me just because of how bad I am with the LNAT. Hmmm, would you say my GCSE's are not good enough then?
I feel like UCL and Kings are so similar so if I apply to both I am essentially wasting a choice since if I get rejected by one I am quite likely to be rejected by the other.
UCL is harder to get into than KCL, no matter how much KCL might like to pretend otherwise.
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UCL is harder to get into than KCL, no matter how much KCL might like to pretend otherwise.
Lol, fair enough.
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Go for LSE, even though I wouldn't be confident with those A*AA predictions. They only barely meet the offer, and consequently put you at a vast disadvantage compared to the people who are applying with 4 or 5 A-levels and more A*s predicted.
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I feel like its equally hard for me just because of how bad I am with the LNAT. Hmmm, would you say my GCSE's are not good enough then?
I feel like UCL and Kings are so similar so if I apply to both I am essentially wasting a choice since if I get rejected by one I am quite likely to be rejected by the other.
It's up to you totally but if I were in your position I'd feel better having KCL
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Go for LSE, even though I wouldn't be confident with those A*AA predictions. They only barely meet the offer, and consequently put you at a vast disadvantage compared to the people who are applying with 4 or 5 A-levels and more A*s predicted.
So don't go for LSE?
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It's up to you totally but if I were in your position I'd feel better having KCL
Hmm, okay. Its just the LNAT that's putting me off.
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Go for LSE, even though I wouldn't be confident with those A*AA predictions. They only barely meet the offer, and consequently put you at a vast disadvantage compared to the people who are applying with 4 or 5 A-levels and more A*s predicted.
If I was predicted A*A*A? Then would you still say the same thing?
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Go for LSE, even though I wouldn't be confident with those A*AA predictions. They only barely meet the offer, and consequently put you at a vast disadvantage compared to the people who are applying with 4 or 5 A-levels and more A*s predicted.
People apply to Law with 4/5 A-Levels? Why tho
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People apply to Law with 4/5 A-Levels? Why tho
Because people want to make the most impressive argument possible for why they should be given a place. When you're talking about applicants who are also applying to Oxbridge too, they are under a lot of pressure to make themselves stand out.

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If I was predicted A*A*A? Then would you still say the same thing?
Mostly everyone who applies to LSE will have predictions like those. And if you look at the stats, most people are rejected.
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People apply to Law with 4/5 A-Levels? Why tho
Because 3 A-levels are piss easy and make you bored of life. No challenge in them.

4 are more challenging and look better. The 5th A-level could be an EPQ, or a subject that doesn't go on an offer, such as Critical thinking or General Studies. Plus, as Notorious said, a lot of the LSE/UCL applicants will also be Oxbridge applicants (perhaps this isn't so true of LSE - a lot of people seem to avoid putting it on the same application with UCL and KCL because they see as it unpredictable in how it gives out its offers, but the point stands).

Edit: I should probably add that this thread talks about the law courses that constitute the 'ceiling' in terms of competitiveness. Law courses at the likes of Oxbridge, Durham, LSE, UCL easily have entry tariffs of 550+ UCAS points a year on average. That suggests that their intake are doing at least 4 A-levels, or some high-tariff examination such as the IB (which has 6 subjects).

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If I was predicted A*A*A? Then would you still say the same thing?
Well, you'd avoid the typical admissions office fear that you'd miss your predicted grades either way and therefore not make it, even if you were given an offer. How that puts you in relation to the rest of the cohort, I honestly don't know :sad face:
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Well, you'd avoid the typical admissions fear that you'd miss your predicted grades either way and therefore not make it in even if you were given an offer. How that puts you in relation to the rest of the cohort, I honestly don't know :sad face:
How about 3 + an EPQ?
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How about 3 + an EPQ?
Much better

Not sure how it compares to 3 + an EPQ vs 4 'full' A-levels. I'd imagine that four A-levels suggest better things about you, workload-wise, because of the simple empirical fact that they take more time to prepare for and involve a... shall we say tougher form of examination? (end of year exam + a little bit of coursework vs long research essay + a presentation)
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Because 3 A-levels are piss easy and make you bored of life. No challenge in them.

4 are more challenging and look better. The 5th A-level could be an EPQ, or a subject that doesn't go on an offer, such as Critical thinking or General Studies. Plus, as Notorious said, a lot of the LSE/UCL applicants will also be Oxbridge applicants (perhaps this isn't so true of LSE - a lot of people seem to avoid putting it on the same application with UCL and KCL because they see as it unpredictable in how it gives out its offers, but the point stands).

Edit: I should probably add that this thread talks about the law courses that constitute the 'ceiling' in terms of competitiveness. Law courses at the likes of Oxbridge, Durham, LSE, UCL easily have entry tariffs of 550+ UCAS points a year on average. That suggests that their intake are doing at least 4 A-levels, or some high-tariff examination such as the IB (which has 6 subjects).


Well, you'd avoid the typical admissions office fear that you'd miss your predicted grades either way and therefore not make it, even if you were given an offer. How that puts you in relation to the rest of the cohort, I honestly don't know :sad face:
Yeah okay I have decided no to LSE then. Dont know what to about Kings though as they are an LNAT uni.
I have seen people with A*AA get into the uni's I'm considering applying to( Cambridge, UCL, Kings) so I don't think my grades put me at a severe disadvantage with those unis just the LNAT really. For LSE, my grades aren't enough so thanks for helping me decide.
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Much better

Not sure how it compares to 3 an EPQ vs 4 'full' A-levels. I'd imagine that four A-levels suggest better things about you, workload-wise, because of the simple empirical fact that they take more time to prepare for and involve a... shall we say tougher form of examination? (end of year exam a little bit of coursework vs long research essay a presentation)
I probably would do 4 but I struggled on picking my 3rd option
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Yeah okay I have decided no to LSE then. Dont know what to about Kings though as they are an LNAT uni.
I have seen people with A*AA get into the uni's I'm considering applying to( Cambridge, UCL, Kings) so I don't think my grades put me at a severe disadvantage with those unis just the LNAT really. For LSE, my grades aren't enough so thanks for helping me decide.
People get into Cambridge with A*AA; one respected user on here comes to mind. However, they weren't predicted A*AA.
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