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    (Original post by GANFYD)
    Oxbridge and Imperial are the only medical schools who care about science A levels beyond Chemistry and Biology (and UCL actively state they favour a non-science 3rd A level) and this they now only go as far as a requirement for a 3rd A level being a science subject/maths (98% successful applicants at Cambridge have 3 or more science/maths A levels). Since the start of reformed A levels, there is only QUB and Manchester (I think) that require a 4th AS or A level (or similar), though Oxbridge will consider it if it is there. So if you have to do one, do the one you are most likely to get the highest grade in, as you are more likely to be looked down on for a B in Physics than you are for an A in Economics
    Thank you for your advice.So they won't care if I do economics as my 4th then,even though it's a soft subject (Cambridge/Imperial),Im also doing biology,chemistry and maths.
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    I have to do a 4th a level because my school won't allow anyone to do 3.Im doing biology,chemistry and maths .I started with history and switched to economics and now Im trying out physics and I have to pick asap preferably by tomorrow (friday) I want to stick to physics or go back to economics.Im just worried if I do economics I would be at a big disadvantage if I apply for medicine to Cambridge,Imperial and Ucl which Im aiming for,but physics is harder but economics is not facilitating and a bit useless but I missed the whole unit of electricity in physics.Whats most important is getting into medicine ao what should I do??!!
    Medicine has a lot of physics in it, so I'd suggest that. I'm wanting to do medicine too and at higher (scotland) Im taking:
    Maths, Chemistry, Biology, Physics and computing.
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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    Thank you for your advice.So they won't care if I do economics as my 4th then,even though it's a soft subject (Cambridge/Imperial),Im also doing biology,chemistry and maths.
    Nope, Imperial won't even look at it, and Cambridge will just want high UMS/grades/raw marks in whatever 4th AS you have-and any others you have sat at the end of Year 12, too (in fact, looks like Imperial have removed their 3rd science stipulation, too)
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    Medicine has a lot of physics in it, so I'd suggest that. I'm wanting to do medicine too and at higher (scotland) Im taking:
    Maths, Chemistry, Biology, Physics and computing.
    No it doesn't!
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    do the easier one ... economics is easier
    ... bt nt easy ... no A level is easy
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    (Original post by GANFYD)
    Nope, Imperial won't even look at it, and Cambridge will just want high UMS/grades/raw marks in whatever 4th AS you have-and any others you have sat at the end of Year 12, too (in fact, looks like Imperial have removed their 3rd science stipulation, too)
    Thank you for your advice it is very much appreciated!!!!What a levels did you do and what uni did you go if you don't mind me asking?
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    (Original post by GANFYD)
    No it doesn't!
    I can legit get a quote from the dundee website saying that the medical course has some physics in it and that it's recommended you take it if you want. I assume that most schools/all schools have about the same course.

    Obviously you dont NEED it, its just good to have it and it will help later on.
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    Tbh Physics will help u if u are sitting BMAT in a years time..
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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    Thank you for your advice it is very much appreciated!!!!What a levels did you do and what uni did you go if you don't mind me asking?
    Chemistry, Biology and Maths and the University of I've-Been-A-Dr-Longer-Than-You've-Been-Alive!! (Newcastle, but I graduated a LONG time ago!)
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    (Original post by Relentas)
    I can legit get a quote from the dundee website saying that the medical course has some physics in it and that it's recommended you take it if you want. I assume that most schools/all schools have about the same course.

    Obviously you dont NEED it, its just good to have it and it will help later on.
    Oxford and Cambridge is also quite Physics heavy for their pre-clinical years with the need to be able to understand physics concepts such as the Bernoulli Principle
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    (Original post by GANFYD)
    Chemistry, Biology and Maths and the University of I've-Been-A-Dr-Longer-Than-You've-Been-Alive!! (Newcastle, but I graduated a LONG time ago!)
    What was your AS level in for the 4th option if you did one?That's amazing by the way!What do you specialise in?
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    (Original post by Relentas)
    I can legit get a quote from the dundee website saying that the medical course has some physics in it and that it's recommended you take it if you want. I assume that most schools/all schools have about the same course.

    Obviously you dont NEED it, its just good to have it and it will help later on.
    I highly doubt it. Here at Imperial, I can think of no physics at all that we've done in our pre-clinical years. Nor will it help in clinical.
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    As long as you do A-level Bio and Chem you will be fine. They dont care about the 3rd A-level.
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    (Original post by Relentas)
    I can legit get a quote from the dundee website saying that the medical course has some physics in it and that it's recommended you take it if you want. I assume that most schools/all schools have about the same course.

    Obviously you dont NEED it, its just good to have it and it will help later on.
    I can legit tell you that in over 100 years of medicine between us, the straw poll of medics I have just done have never used anything beyond GCSE Physics! And even then not anything you couldn't learn in 1 lecture at med school. Trust me, the med stats is much more challenging, but nobody suggests you must do statistics!! (an anaesthetist, consultant medic, radiologist and GP).
    If you enjoy Physics, by all means do it, but not because you think there is a lot of it in Medicine!
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    I highly doubt it. Here at Imperial, I can think of no physics at all that we've done in our pre-clinical years. Nor will it help in clinical.
    So you recommend I do economics and that imperial won't care what I do as my 4th or do you think they will?
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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    What was your AS level in for the 4th option if you did one?That's amazing by the way!What do you specialise in?
    Sorry, no such thing as ASs when I did A levels! I am now a GP, but have had a bit of a "Portfolio Career" along the way!!
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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    So you recommend I do economics and that imperial won't care what I do as my 4th or do you think they will?
    They won't care a bit, provided you score a decent grade in it. Plenty of my friends have done Economics at A-Level and are here. A fair few also don't have A-Level Physics.
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    (Original post by usycool1)
    I highly doubt it. Here at Imperial, I can think of no physics at all that we've done in our pre-clinical years. Nor will it help in clinical.
    As I said all courses could be different in certain ways, you may actually be doing physics without realising it. For example: CAT scanners involve physics as they talk about waves and radiation. Pressure is also to do with physics as well a sphygmomanometer (blood pressure meter) is used to measure the blood pressure of a patient, yes you may not need to use pressure formulaes in med school to find out their blood pressure but that is still physics. Knowing physics helps to understand it but it isnt necessary as you can figure out how things work without it, it just helps according to some schools.
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    I would recommend continuing economics if you are better at it. I myself dropped physics and continued economics. It also depends which teachers are better.
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    (Original post by GANFYD)
    I can legit tell you that in over 100 years of medicine between us, the straw poll of medics I have just done have never used anything beyond GCSE Physics! And even then not anything you couldn't learn in 1 lecture at med school. Trust me, the med stats is much more challenging, but nobody suggests you must do statistics!! (an anaesthetist, consultant medic, radiologist and GP).
    If you enjoy Physics, by all means do it, but not because you think there is a lot of it in Medicine!
    Yea, as I said, its not needed. It just helps to have it as you understand things a lot better. (I'm in Scotland so don't know whats in the GCSE course) Tbh you probably have done some A level physics without realising it as some of its just pure logic.
    As I said to the other guy, CAT scanners are an example of higher/alevel physics as you go into more detail and maybe understand it better/quicker as you know more about how it works before even learning about it. Without physics you maybe wouldn't know that x-rays are fired through you and seen by x-ray detectors or even that an x-ray is a wave.

    edit: adding something, most schools wouldn't care what subjects you take, some just want the grades as well as biology and chemistry.
 
 
 
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