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    New fingerprint technology has been develop by the team at Sheffield Hallam University and can show if a suspect has handled drugs, a condom or even the type of hair gel they use!

    The technique uses a form of mass spectrometry and can show traces of food, alcohol and drugs, according to researchers.

    The Home Office has said that this technology could be used in casework in a matter of months, so a big well done the team at SHU!

    You can read more on the story here.

    What do you make of this? Do you find this kind of technology exciting? What kind of things would they find on your finger prints? (Mine would be crisps)
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    Jokes on them I don't use condoms
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      ...They already likely know all that (and much more) from suspects' digital fingerprint (although they here is the NSA/GCHQ rather than the police, so perhaps the police investigators don't have access to it).

      Interesting nonetheless.
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      (Original post by Mathemagicien)
      ...They already likely know all that (and much more) from suspects' digital fingerprint (although they here is the NSA/GCHQ rather than the police, so perhaps the police investigators don't have access to it).

      Interesting nonetheless.
      I see what you're saying but this feels like the added bonus "It has also successfully detected blood in a 30-year-old fingerprint – meaning it could lead to a breakthrough in a long-closed case".

      From what I've read it hasn't been used by police or the courts but now they're looking to integrate this into cases.
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        (Original post by She-Ra)
        I see what you're saying but this feels like the added bonus "It has also successfully detected blood in a 30-year-old fingerprint – meaning it could lead to a breakthrough in a long-closed case".

        From what I've read it hasn't been used by police or the courts but now they're looking to integrate this into cases.
        Oh, in that case it will be valuable in solving old crimes - or crimes by old people, too, I guess.
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        There is no proof that finger prints are unique, in fact the evidence is quite to the contrary. We need to stop investing money into a non-exact science and develop new investigative techniques.
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        I was just in a tutorial focusing on biometrics, fingerprints and DNA there now. :lol:

        Aw, Britain does love its new technology for catching criminals.
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        Why would they even need to know what kind of condoms the perp's been using, have they been finding used condoms at the scenes of crimes?
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        (Original post by (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ)
        Why would they even need to know what kind of condoms the perp's been using, have they been finding used condoms at the scenes of crimes?
        Relevant question, I haven't heard of many rapes where the rapist has rubbered up first.
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        (Original post by SomeWelshGuy123)
        We need to stop investing money into a non-exact science and develop new investigative techniques.
        You mean like extracting DNA and chemical samples from the fingerprint?
        :rolleyes:
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        (Original post by Good bloke)
        You mean like extracting DNA and chemical samples from the fingerprint?
        :rolleyes:
        DNA evidence is highly flawed too, eg a span of murders five years ago in the US, around 30 murder scenes had the same dna. Turns out it was a woman from the cotton swab factory who had contaminated the swabs.
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        (Original post by SomeWelshGuy123)
        DNA evidence is highly flawed too,

        Highly flawed, because you can name one problem, that did not lead to a false conviction, out of hundreds of thousands or even millions? Perhaps you prefer eyewitness testimony, the most notoriously unreliable type of evidence of all?
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        (Original post by Mathemagicien)
        ...They already likely know all that (and much more) from suspects' digital fingerprint (although they here is the NSA/GCHQ rather than the police, so perhaps the police investigators don't have access to it).

        Interesting nonetheless.
        Were you at the Binney/Arjen talk yesterday, by any chance...? :P
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          (Original post by Zacken)
          Were you at the Binney/Arjen talk yesterday, by any chance...? :P
          Nope, I was busy rediscovering how bad I am at badminton.

          Sounds like it was a good talk though. Did you go?
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          (Original post by Mathemagicien)
          Nope, I was busy rediscovering how bad I am at badminton.

          Sounds like it was a good talk though. Did you go?
          I did, it was excellent. I hadn't realised how badly we're all screwed and how bad national security around the globe is.

          Are you in Methods right now?
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            (Original post by (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ)
            Why would they even need to know what kind of condoms the perp's been using, have they been finding used condoms at the scenes of crimes?
            (Original post by SomeWelshGuy123)
            Relevant question, I haven't heard of many rapes where the rapist has rubbered up first.
            IIRC, condoms are often used by people to smuggle drugs - they put the drugs in and swallow it. I'd imagine that it is also useful evidence in cases of accidental rape (drunk sex, etc.).
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              (Original post by Zacken)
              I did, it was excellent. I hadn't realised how badly we're all screwed and how bad national security around the globe is.

              Are you in Methods right now?
              Sounds cheerful. Cybersecurity is looking like a really good career now. Good enough to think about enduring GRM next term.

              Nope, I just rushed an examples sheet just before the deadline.
             
             
             
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