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    'He is failing': Trump strikes out solo as friends worry and enemies circle

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-corker

    "McMullin agreed that Trump seemed rattled by the recent criticisms from Tillerson, Corker and Barrack. “He probably understands their remarks represent a new stage of acceptance setting in across the country, even among his supporters, that he is unfit and incapable."

    “That, I think, is inspiring his accelerated efforts to throw red meat to his base to shore up their support. I expect that to continue, if not intensify, and to result in increasing political challenges for the GOP as 2017 and 2018 elections approach and in years to come.”"

    Lets just hope the red meat doesn't result in a nuclear exchange. I would say lets hope the US body politic keeps its immunity against tyranny but that same government structure is fine with denying healthcare to its citizens so....
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    Most politicians are
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    My main concern is his racism and how he normalises being a grubby old man and assaulting women.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    'He is failing': Trump strikes out solo as friends worry and enemies circle



    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-corker
    I think we all know that... it's just common knowledge really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    'He is failing': Trump strikes out solo as friends worry and enemies circle

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-corker

    "McMullin agreed that Trump seemed rattled by the recent criticisms from Tillerson, Corker and Barrack. “He probably understands their remarks represent a new stage of acceptance setting in across the country, even among his supporters, that he is unfit and incapable."

    “That, I think, is inspiring his accelerated efforts to throw red meat to his base to shore up their support. I expect that to continue, if not intensify, and to result in increasing political challenges for the GOP as 2017 and 2018 elections approach and in years to come.”"

    Lets just hope the red meat doesn't result in a nuclear exchange. I would say lets hope the US body politic keeps its immunity against tyranny but that same government structure is fine with denying healthcare to its citizens so....
    How DARE you say that? You commie.
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    (Original post by Jang Gwangnam)
    I think we all know that... it's just common knowledge really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    I'm glad he is ineffectual. The more worrying possibility is that Trump actually starts to harm the Republicans, then they may start to move to get rid of him. Then he gets replaced with some actually competent right wing religious nutter which the republicans aren't exactly short of. Someone who was actually good at getting what the extreme right, that is the american right, policies implemented.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Why is that worrying? Do you want a revolution or not? Right-wing nutters are a godsend for the left.
    Stalinist like you worry me equally when it comes to revolutions

    His actions with regard to health care are already harming people. Except this is nothing new. It's been like this in America for decades. It never results in a socialist revolution. There is loads of research out there that people become more bigoted when times are tough. You make things even worse and people may well elect and get involved in with a real fascist movement as apposed to the apathy of voting in the reality TV clown that is Trump.

    This kind of accelerationism is dangerous. It generally helps the far right more than the left and when it does help the left it hasn't exactly worked out according to plan (although I suspect this is where you and I differ, you seem to judge the Soviet Union more of a success than I do).
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Stalinist like you worry me equally when it comes to revolutions

    His actions with regard to health care are already harming people. Except this is nothing new. It's been like this in America for decades. It never results in a socialist revolution. There is loads of research out there that people become more bigoted when times are tough. You make things even worse and people may well elect and get involved in with a real fascist movement as apposed to the apathy of voting in the reality TV clown that is Trump.

    This kind of accelerationism is dangerous. It generally helps the far right more than the left and when it does help the left it hasn't exactly worked out according to plan (although I suspect this is where you and I differ, you seem to judge the Soviet Union more of a success than I do).
    America arguably has never been led by a president like Trump and the fact that his repeal of Obamacare, for example, has already had negative impacts which go against left wing principles. Whilst it is unlikely to lead to a socialist revolution, it is hard to see why people would put their trust in a real fascist group who would share many of the same principles that Trump holds and take to a more extreme extent.
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    (Original post by rugbycricket)
    America arguably has never been led by a president like Trump and the fact that his repeal of Obamacare, for example, has already had negative impacts which go against left wing principles. Whilst it is unlikely to lead to a socialist revolution, it is hard to see why people would put their trust in a real fascist group who would share many of the same principles that Trump holds and take to a more extreme extent.
    A fascist could easily appeal to grievances on lack of health care by appealing to the ideal of looking after our own. We can provide a nationalist health service, but we can only do so if we only provide to our own kind. European fascists did so well in Europe by tapping into those kind of grievances. I'm not sure whether that could work in the US, where the far right normally much more individualistic.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    A fascist could easily appeal to grievances on lack of health care by appealing to the ideal of looking after our own. We can provide a nationalist health service, but we can only do so if we only provide to our own kind. European fascists did so well in Europe by tapping into those kind of grievances. I'm not sure whether that could work in the US, where the far right normally much more individualistic.
    Indeed, I think America right now is far too diverse in terms of cultures and beliefs for any single far right organisation to be able to exploit what is a nation wide issue unless they were able to compromise on their fundamental principles. It is easy to imagine a 'Unite the Right' style uprising supposedly for the people, but with issues such as immigration and racism being put heavily into the spotlight by Trump, it would not take long for other leaders to condemn the idea of the possibility of these groups making their undeniably far right ideas a reality.
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    But good will come from it that people will have, front and center-what they can not ignore and hide and act like doesn't exist...the fact he got to be where he is in spite of all he has done-well, when his own actions and corruption bring him down, you will see the tide turn on him for all those things that cause him to fall from grace such as the Russian investigation, corruption, RICO crimes and banking and tax violations-those things will illuminate the foolishness of electing one such as him with all the other deplorable things he has done, too.

    (Original post by Ganjaweed Rebel)
    My main concern is his racism and how he normalises being a grubby old man and assaulting women.
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    Actually, chump shall be plenty useful in the days and weeks and months to come...it took 18 months to bring down Richard Nixon for his crimes-a simple breaking and entering (but of course, financial trials, people hired-those things had to be explored and tracked) so we should be just a little bit more patient for this clown to be put to good use by all the corruption and crimes he and his minions (including family members like chump jr. and ivanka chump) have committed.

    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    'He is failing': Trump strikes out solo as friends worry and enemies circle

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-corker

    "McMullin agreed that Trump seemed rattled by the recent criticisms from Tillerson, Corker and Barrack. “He probably understands their remarks represent a new stage of acceptance setting in across the country, even among his supporters, that he is unfit and incapable."

    “That, I think, is inspiring his accelerated efforts to throw red meat to his base to shore up their support. I expect that to continue, if not intensify, and to result in increasing political challenges for the GOP as 2017 and 2018 elections approach and in years to come.”"

    Lets just hope the red meat doesn't result in a nuclear exchange. I would say lets hope the US body politic keeps its immunity against tyranny but that same government structure is fine with denying healthcare to its citizens so....
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    Agreed, but then, as I have been noting, he will be plenty useful when he is impeached and prosecuted(whether at the federal level or for state RICO, tax and corruption crimes that are being pursued in parallel so that chump can't pardon himself or his cronies.)
    :
    QUOTE=Onde;74120580]If he was merely useless, the situation would not be so bad.[/QUOTE]
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    A prez that listens to his people. They thought Trump was the one. If he isn't, who is
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    (Original post by luq_ali)
    But good will come from it that people will have, front and center-what they can not ignore and hide and act like doesn't exist...the fact he got to be where he is in spite of all he has done-well, when his own actions and corruption bring him down, you will see the tide turn on him for all those things that cause him to fall from grace such as the Russian investigation, corruption, RICO crimes and banking and tax violations-those things will illuminate the foolishness of electing one such as him with all the other deplorable things he has done, too.
    This is a good point, you can't ignore White supremacy when it's standing outside the White House.
 
 
 
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