Should Obese people be treated by the NHS for free?

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Hey everyone, I am in sixth form and completing an EPQ (extended project qualification) and wanted to know your views/ opinions on this.
Any opinions are welcome, thanks very much for your time,
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Yes, they pay taxes like everyone else, so should be entitled to the full benefits of a tax-funded public service.
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Yes, they pay taxes like everyone else, so should be entitled to the full benefits of a tax-funded public service.
This.


That's like saying should people who smoke and have lung cancer be treated or not? Of course they should... This man uses tobacco, and he has cancer... lets leave him to die! No.
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That's like saying should people who smoke and have lung cancer be treated or not? Of course they should... This man uses tobacco, and he has cancer... lets leave him to die! No.
and that's where the discussion of why should someone fix you up because you inflicted the problems upon yourself
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Hey everyone, I am in sixth form and completing an EPQ (extended project qualification) and wanted to know your views/ opinions on this.
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Yes they should! They are people like the rest of us and making them pay because they are obese would be discrimination.
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and that's where the discussion of why should someone fix you up because you inflicted the problems upon yourself
But it's not 'someone else' (i.e. A third party) fixing you up; it's a Public Health Service that you pay for through your taxes. If obese people aren't allowed to be treated on the NHS, then they shouldn't have to pay for it.
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But it's not 'someone else' (i.e. A third party) fixing you up; it's a Public Health Service that you pay for through your taxes. If obese people aren't allowed to be treated on the NHS, then they shouldn't have to pay for it.
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(Original post by LeapingLucy)
But it's not 'someone else' (i.e. A third party) fixing you up; it's a Public Health Service that you pay for through your taxes. If obese people aren't allowed to be treated on the NHS, then they shouldn't have to pay for it.
lol i don't know much about legal law stuff and how things work

but i still stand by the point of why should(now corrected by you) the public health service fix you up for you hurting yourself?

Is that what this service is for? Fixing people who gives themselves these kinds of illnesses?
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(Original post by will'o'wisp2)
lol i don't know much about legal law stuff and how things work

but i still stand by the point of why should(now corrected by you) the public health service fix you up for you hurting yourself?

Is that what this service is for? Fixing people who gives themselves these kinds of illnesses?
Well yes. I mean, if you pay taxes, then you definetly should allowed access to treatments via the NHS.

If you, a tax payer, break a leg (due to your own carelessness), should you be treated by the NHS? Well yes, and it shouldn't be at all different with those who are obese.
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Well yes. I mean, if you pay taxes, then you definetly should allowed access to treatments via the NHS.

If you, a tax payer, break a leg (due to your own carelessness), should you be treated by the NHS? Well yes, and it shouldn't be at all different with those who are obese.
oh well im sorry it's my fault , i wasn't specific enough, i should've stated intentionally as well.
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oh well im sorry it's my fault , i wasn't specific enough, i should've stated intentionally as well.
I am rather sure that there is no one that intentionally wants to become fat.
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I'm surprised your college OK'd this as an epq 😂

Seems a bit inflammatory 😂
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(Original post by LeapingLucy)
Yes, they pay taxes like everyone else, so should be entitled to the full benefits of a tax-funded public service.
But what if they don't listen to doctors, e.g. if they don't take their medication on time...
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I am rather sure that there is no one that intentionally wants to become fat.
then if they "can't stop eating" that's still their fault, didn't quite know how to phrase that i guess i meant intention? or something like that.
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If you look at the vast majority of patients in an adult acute hospital, there's a lifestyle component to their illnesses in one way or another.

However, care is already rationed in one way or another to people with obesity, a number of procedures are off limits unless they lose some weight. The case is similar with people who smoke or drink excessively.
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Yes as said above tax payers like everyone else. Prevention better than cure though. The majority in the UK are overweight.
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But what if they don't listen to doctors, e.g. if they don't take their medication on time...
I don't follow your argument - what point are you making?

It's not just obese people who might sometimes not follow a doctor's advice fully or not take medication they've been prescribed. That's something anyone could do.

Whether people should be allowed to continue to use the NHS when they don't follow their treatment plan is a completely separate argument to your original question of obesity.

If you're doing an EPQ on this then you need to learn how to stay on topic and only make good, relevant points, or you won't score very highly.
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(Original post by LeapingLucy)
I don't follow your argument - what point are you making?

It's not just obese people who might sometimes not follow a doctor's advice fully or not take medication they've been prescribed. That's something anyone could do.

Whether people should be allowed to continue to use the NHS when they don't follow their treatment plan is a completely separate argument to your original question of obesity.

If you're doing an EPQ on this then you need to learn how to stay on topic and only make good, relevant points, or you won't score very highly.
But that is a sub-topic I'm including in my EPQ and I can't write a 5000 word essay on if obese people in general should be allowed free treatment by the NHS, I'm adding a mini heading on complaint and non-complaint patients and in the conclusion i'm going to say that complaint/ people who haven't chosen this lifestyle should be allowed treatment and vice versa.
Do you get me?
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(Original post by LeapingLucy)
Yes, they pay taxes like everyone else, so should be entitled to the full benefits of a tax-funded public service.
What if they don't pay taxes and live of benefits all their lives?
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