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Austrian election: Centre- and Far-Right gain, Greens wiped out Watch

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    I haven't been keeping up with Austrian politics, but it is weird that the Greens should be obliterated just a year after their guy was elected President, narrowly beating the far-right candidate by a smaller margin than Brexit.

    Results:
    31.4% Centre-right
    27.4% Far-right
    26.7% Centre-left
    3.3% Greens

    Anyway: the centre-right leader is set to become the youngest leader in the world, at 31. He has moved the party into a more anti-refugee stance, though that didn't stop the far-right from making large gains.

    The far-right has accused the centre-right of stealing their policies.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41627586

    ]Big question now is whether the coalition will be a centrist one or an anti-refugee one
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    It seems that the idea of "steady state economy" that green parties across Europe purpose, just haven't been a hit. It must be so easy to fool a population into denying climate change and expecting economic growth for growth's sake :/
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    One thing it shows is the success of the left when it works together in a coalition. After all, it is the Greens who hold the Presidency against the far right if I am not mistaken.

    As for this election, it shows a clear feeling in Austria that it was a mistake for Germany to unilaterally decide to take 1 million refugees/migrants without discussing with any other country. That really harmed the EU.

    The coalition I would imagine will be almost certainly the two countries on the centre right. Its a headache for Europe, but no suggestion of an Axit just yet.
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    It would be tough on immigration I suspect but it won’t be anti EU.
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      (Original post by shawn_o1)
      It seems that the idea of "steady state economy" that green parties across Europe purpose, just haven't been a hit. It must be so easy to fool a population into denying climate change and expecting economic growth for growth's sake :/
      I think their decline was more to do with the open borders nonsense the Greens champion.

      Don't forget that a large chunk of the refugees making their way to Germany did so through Austria. A mass of 1 million moving through a country of 8 million, leaving a large trail of rape, crime, and other mess. The Austrians certainly haven't forgotten.
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      This is a good day for the right but also the EU as a whole.

      Assuming the coalition forms (it's actually about 10 seats shy of a majority) then it will be economically to the right while being strongly against the diversity nonsense while still supporting EU membership albeit less contributions.

      It's a bit too anti-immigrant but it will take a very hard line on refugees and help stop the flow.

      Once again, the left has collapsed.
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      This is political magnetic polarity reversal in Europe, in a hundred years from this day the West will be Socialist and the East won't.

      Wait and see.
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      (Original post by shawn_o1)
      It seems that the idea of "steady state economy" that green parties across Europe purpose, just haven't been a hit. It must be so easy to fool a population into denying climate change and expecting economic growth for growth's sake :/
      Of all places to try it on, Austria is not fertile ground. Hayek, for instance:

      The Austrian School is a school of economic thought that is based on methodological individualism – the concept that social phenomena result from the motivations and actions of individuals. It originated in late-19th and early-20th century Vienna with the work of Carl Menger, Eugen Böhm von Bawerk, Friedrich von Wieser, and others. It was methodologically opposed to the Prussian Historical School (in a dispute known as Methodenstreit). Current-day economists working in this tradition are located in many different countries, but their work is still referred to as Austrian economics.
      Probably explains why not even the Soviets fancied the task...
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      (Original post by zhog)
      This is political magnetic polarity reversal in Europe, in a hundred years from this day the West will be Socialist and the East won't.

      Wait and see.
      ...So Austria is now part of eastern Europe? I don't understand.

      This is not a political polarity reversal (I don't know why you included magnetism). Austria has always been fertile ground for (pan-)nationalism.

      Besides, if I had to rank countries by how likely they were to become socialist in the near future, France, Belgium, Netherlands, would all be very low down, because they are far more likely to fall to fascism. Germany will never become socialist, because they are far too strongly neo-liberal and conservative. Germany would rather the whole Euro project crash and burn than start spending money.
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      it is sad but inevitable that Greens are not viewed as a serious political force; once the grim reality of economic contraction impinges on the solid burghers of Austria then it is auf wiedersehen to the environment.
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      Obligatory translation: Finally we can kill baby Hitler!
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      (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
      ...So Austria is now part of eastern Europe? I don't understand.
      The Soviets 'liberated' Vienna from the Nazis, like they did with Budapest, Warsaw, Prague and all else eastern.

      Besides, if I had to rank countries by how likely they were to become socialist in the near future, France, Belgium, Netherlands, would all be very low down, because they are far more likely to fall to fascism. Germany will never become socialist, because they are far too strongly neo-liberal and conservative. Germany would rather the whole Euro project crash and burn than start spending money.
      Why is the West more likely to fall for fascism, I see the Socialists much better positioned. In this country at least, fascists aren't even a real threat to anything. Another myth, even the fascist tag is fake. The Left are all holding key positions in public life right now.
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      (Original post by zhog)
      Why is the West more likely to fall for fascism, I see the Socialists much better positioned. In this country at least, fascists aren't even a real threat to anything. Another myth, even the fascist tag is fake. The Left are all holding key positions in public life right now.
      The US and UK are diverging from most of Europe. Western Germany is the most similar to our situation - Die Linke becoming popular among middle class young hipsters.

      Even in Sweden, the poster child either of Anglophonic smugness about their silly European counterparts, or of rosy-eyed Anglophones wanting to emulate those great liberal Europeans, the refugees and some high-profile disastrous feminist policies caused a big enough backlash that socialism is now pretty unpopular among the youth.

      In traditionally socialist France, the socialists are pretty popular among the youth last I checked - but not as popular as Le Pen, and so long as terrorism remains a problem, and Le Pen remains the de-facto opposition to neo-liberal Macron, the youth will continue to favour her proto-fascism over socialism.

      Italy - Northern League is nationalist, and 5Stars is largely anti-refugee (although they probably do have a large socialist element, they are a weird collection of very diverse political views).

      Switzerland - lol no

      Belgium - increasingly anti-muslim and therefore nationalist


      By what reasoning do you think all of these countries will become socialist?
     
     
     
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