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    (Original post by euphonious)
    Tell me what you think.
    In my school, alot of people use the disabled toilets, which are the only toilets on the upper floor where core subjects take place, in and between lessons, so most toilets are already, gender neutral but mot labelled as so.. But now one has been officially labelled as gender neutral, it has caused an uproar. Personally, as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, I think is it a huge step forwards to help every student of the school feel included. But I don't understand why people are upset about it when most of the time, they were using toilets that were gender neutral anyway.
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    Ways to avoid social bloackages: Have the same amount of total number of toilets and urnals, except in just the one space rather than two. Next have a wider gangway for people to wash hands, check face/hair. Finally, realise that the toilets are unsanitary place to socialise and abort gossping mission in said toilets, freeing up room for people who want to use the facilities quietly.
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    (Original post by euphonious)
    Tell me what you think.
    If you are male you have an XY chromosome, if you are female you have XX chromosomes. You do not lose or gain chromosomes during a 'sex change'. Thus one should go to the bathroom of their chromosome combination, as it is impossible to change one's gender.

    As a conclusion, as one cannot change their gender, then they should use the bathroom of their birth sex.
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    (Original post by Anonymouse 921)
    If you are male you have an XY chromosome, if you are female you have YY chromosomes. You do not lose or gain chromosomes during a 'sex change'. Thus one should go to the bathroom of their chromosome combination, as it is impossible to change one's gender.

    As a conclusion, as one cannot change their gender, then they should use the bathroom of their birth sex.
    Under that same theory, no one should be able to dye their hair, wear coloured contact lenses or even worse not be able to take any form of medication to treat a genetic illness, if you have to be limited to something you are genetically born with.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    We already have a disabled toilet that is perfect for them as it is normally only used by a few students so having a few more would not cause any real issues in terms of large lines and it is secluded. not that I am saying that they are disabled.
    If they're not disabled, they shouldn't be using the disabled toilet. They're for disabled people.
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    How about two separate toilets for two different genders - MALE AND FEMALE. No more of this made up third/fourth/forty-ninth kind of gender. It's utter rubbish propagated by attention seekers; much like the leather shoe wearing vegans.
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    (Original post by Anonymouse 921)
    If you are male you have an XY chromosome, if you are female you have YY chromosomes. You do not lose or gain chromosomes during a 'sex change'. Thus one should go to the bathroom of their chromosome combination, as it is impossible to change one's gender.

    As a conclusion, as one cannot change their gender, then they should use the bathroom of their birth sex.
    This. Your DNA will always reveal your gender. There is no third chromosome combination. Basic biology, really.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    If they're not disabled, they shouldn't be using the disabled toilet. They're for disabled people.
    If they are not Biologically male they should be not using the male toilets and vice versa.

    And anyway why not just rename the disabled toilets to "Other" or something like that. It solves the issue people have perfectly without having to build more toilets or pander to these people
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    (Original post by Anonymouse 921)
    If you are male you have an XY chromosome, if you are female you have YY chromosomes.
    *******s.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    If they are not Biologically male they should be not using the male toilets and vice versa.

    And anyway why not just rename the disabled toilets to "Other" or something like that. It solves the issue people have perfectly without having to build more toilets or pander to these people
    But why should a disabled person have to wait for the transgender person to use the toilet? Not all of us can wait.
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    Hell no
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    I think that if they are transgender they should use the cubicle that suits them.
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    (Original post by Anonymouse 921)
    if you are female you have YY chromosomes
    you mean XX... lmao
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    The f*ck's gender neutral?
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    (Original post by Ljubljana)
    This. Your DNA will always reveal your gender. There is no third chromosome combination. Basic biology, really.
    Third-year biologist popping in here. There's actually a LOT more than three chromosome combinations - the most common outside XX/XY being XXY. And even people with XX/XY chromosomes can be biologically intersex in other ways, for example by having atypical genitals for their chromosome combination. That's biological fact, not opinion.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    But why should a disabled person have to wait for the transgender person to use the toilet? Not all of us can wait.
    Why should a normal person have to wait for a transgender person to use the toilet?

    In most places there are few people that are disabled bar some obvious reasons why disabled people might be in a highly concentrated area.

    In most places there are also few transgender people, if you got a room filled with 100 people and asked anyone that was transgender and anyone that was disabled enough that they needed to use to disabled toilet you would get very few people. so toilets should always be free or atleast not with a giant line and worse case if you want to think that you are a different gender then go in that genders bathroom and go to the toilet.
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    OF COURSE. All schools should have gender neutral bathrooms. It doesn't have to be ALL of the bathrooms, you can still have some gender-segregated if you want to.

    I am a trans guy. (I'm male but have 'female parts') And I tell you. The fear I have to experience going into the men's bathrooms at college is INTENSE. To the extent I can't go into them if I'm wearing certain clothes because I'm worried some transphobe will have an issue with me pissing in the same place as him.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    Why should a normal person have to wait for a transgender person to use the toilet?
    Since when did they have to? Most places have more than one toilet.
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    My school has one gender neutral bathroom but the rest are normal bathrooms. If you have a problem with the gender neutral ones you just use the normal toilets, it’s not that difficult. The only problem I have is that boys are discussing and there is now piss all over the place in those bathrooms, but that’s just because boys are horrible.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    Third-year biologist popping in here. There's actually a LOT more than three chromosome combinations - the most common outside XX/XY being XXY. And even people with XX/XY chromosomes can be biologically intersex in other ways, for example by having atypical genitals for their chromosome combination. That's biological fact, not opinion.
    But this is not what we are talking about, those genetic defects are abnormalities, this is not saying that someone who has XXY or some other defect does not have those chromosomes just that if you have XY you are male and XX you are female .
 
 
 
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