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    (Original post by the bear)
    well English schools have managed perfectly well without for the last thousand years :dontknow:
    I don't like that sort of logic. Humanity limped along for thousands of years without vaccines and computers, and probably considered itself to be doing perfectly well. All the same in this case I don't think gender-neutral loos are that important.
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    (Original post by AngryJellyfish)
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    I added more into my response...

    I said it deprives people in that block of their rights when they have no other option. They should also have regular gender specific toilets otherwise people are being forced to use the bathroom with someone of a different gender how can you not see the problem unless this is some weird fantasy of yours.

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    Not sure what to say to that. They did. Soooo...
    I don't believe you though so...
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    (Original post by Salt Queen)
    Are you saying they can? It's depriving anyone in that block of their rights, they're being forced to use a toilet with someone of a different sex whether they want to or not with no other option .
    They aren’t forced to do anything. They can easily walk to the next block and use the bathroom there.
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    (Original post by HelloMrMagpie)
    They aren’t forced to do anything. They can easily walk to the next block and use the bathroom there.
    That's horrible that normal people are being forced to go on a quest for a toilet they feel comfortable in. I'll wait for non politically correct people with sense to show up, thanks anyway.
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    (Original post by Salt Queen)
    I added more into my response...

    I said it deprives people in that block of their rights when they have no other option. They should also have regular gender specific toilets otherwise people are being forced to use the bathroom with someone of a different gender how can you not see the problem unless this is some weird fantasy of yours.
    I really can't see the problem. It's not like they'd be in the same cubicle.
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    (Original post by Magdatrix >_<)
    I think the easiest way would be to relabel "disabled" toilet as "accessible" toilet - it's then there for anyone who, for whatever reason, can't use the gendered ones.
    😄 that's a very interesting idea
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    (Original post by Salt Queen)
    That's horrible that normal people are being forced to go on a quest for a toilet they feel comfortable in. I'll wait for non politically correct people with sense to show up, thanks anyway.
    It’s literally less than a minute from where they were originally, it’s no quest. Literally every other bathroom is just a normal bathroom. I don’t see why you have such a problem with it.
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    (Original post by AngryJellyfish)
    I really can't see the problem. It's not like they'd be in the same cubicle.
    I know you strangely can't see the problem. If a man walks into the toilet I will instinctively feel threatened and I will defend myself at all costs. I guess he can explain his gender identity issues to someone else later. And the poor female wanting to be male who dares to go into male facility!!
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    (Original post by HelloMrMagpie)
    It’s literally less than a minute from where they were originally, it’s no quest. Literally every other bathroom is just a normal bathroom. I don’t see why you have such a problem with it.
    Obviously safety issues sharing a toilet with men while you're a woman or a guy walking in?! ... Don't act like I'm the odd one feeling threatened or worried for a trans female around a bunch of pissing men just because I'm not on this silly gender train. Rape is a thing you know.
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    (Original post by Salt Queen)
    Obviously safety issues sharing a toilet with men while you're a woman or a guy walking in?! ... Don't act like I'm the odd one feeling threatened or worried for a trans female around a bunch of pissing men just because I'm not on this silly gender train. Rape is a thing you know.
    Got to say I’m not particularly worried about rape because I’m at school and most of the people in those bathrooms are like 12 years old. If you are worried then you just go in the other bathroom. It’s really not difficult. You’re making it seem more of a problem than it actually is.
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    (Original post by ajayma)
    That’s just ridiculous . Why cater for people who clearly just want attention and to be different. For thousands of years of existence this has not been needed so why now , just because people are bored and so make up new things just to get attention.
    If we're talking thousands of years back, the ancient Romans had public toilets that were open to everyone and literally nobody cared. In the U.K specifically, indoor plumping wasn't really a thing until the 1930's, so a lot of schools just had outhouses with no genders assigned. It's kinda naive of you to assume everyone's had the same bathroom system for thousands of years, the flush toilet only really came into light just over 100 years ago.

    People also used to murder anyone who was transgender, so forgive them for not speaking out about this issue until now.
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    I think there is a danger that some children, especially girls, would fear going to the toilet at school. Either from the possibility of a boy seeing them, or thinking that boys are less clean.
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    (Original post by HelloMrMagpie)
    Got to say I’m not particularly worried about rape because I’m at school and most of the people in those bathrooms are like 12 years old. If you are worried then you just go in the other bathroom. It’s really not difficult. You’re making it seem more of a problem than it actually is.
    Oh so you're 12 years old now? Ok child. What have your parents been teaching you? And again I bet you made up the facility to push forward your own fantasy of sharing a toilet. And news flash 12 year olds have sex drives and 12 yr old girls get raped all the time! And no it's about principle but as you're 12 you don't even know what that means. Stop quoting me, child. How dare you say you're not worried about rape?!
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    (Original post by Salt Queen)
    Oh so you're 12 years old now? Ok child. What have your parents been teaching you? And again I bet you made up the facility to push forward your own fantasy of sharing a toilet. And news flash 12 year olds have sex drives and 12 yr old girls get raped all the time! And no it's about principle but as you're 12 you don't even know what that means. Stop quoting me, child. How dare you say you're not worried about rape?!
    I’m not 12, I’m 17. I go to sixth form in a secondary school so yeah there are 12 year olds. I don’t know what you mean by “all the time” cause I don’t know anyone who’s been raped let alone at age 12. Not everyone has the same fears, I’m not worried about being raped because I don’t think it will happen to me. I realise the you can’t always control things like that but we’re talking about a secondary school. Also, calm down you’re way too angry about a bathroom right now.
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    (Original post by AngryJellyfish)
    *******s.
    I edited my original post to accommodate for the fact that I did the wrong configuration for female (YY instead of XX)
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    (Original post by Salt Queen)
    I know you strangely can't see the problem. If a man walks into the toilet I will instinctively feel threatened and I will defend myself at all costs.
    (Original post by Salt Queen)
    Obviously safety issues sharing a toilet with men while you're a woman or a guy walking in?! ...
    Again, he wouldn't be in the same cubicle as you.

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    Don't act like I'm the odd one feeling threatened or worried for a trans female around a bunch of pissing men just because I'm not on this silly gender train. Rape is a thing you know.
    Can you provide stats proving that sexual assaults are more likely to happen in gender neutral facilities, or from trans people using the facilities of the gender they identify as?
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    (Original post by eden3)
    you mean XX... lmao
    Yes I do *facepalm*... I've changed my original statement, even though I got an A*, I was advised not to take bio A level
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    Schools should be investing into learning, not investing into gender-neutral toilets to satisfy a minority.
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    Definitely not. These are teenagers, we are talking about. There'd be an awful lot of sex.
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    It makes sense to have a separate disabled bathroom. That could also serve as a gender neutral bathroom.
 
 
 
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