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    "Worth the money" is a very subjective term. The MacBook lines are generally gorgeously built and the operating system feels slicker than Windows, but in terms of actual specs and what you can use them for there is very little to separate an Apple laptop from a similarly powerful Windows laptop that only costs two thirds of the price.

    Your daughter's need are very basic, any decent laptop will do the job as well as a MacBook can because nothing is going to stress it. Look for a Core i5 with the product code beginning with 6 or 7 (e.g i5-7200U), 8GB or RAM and 128-256GB of SSD storage, all of which is probably doable for under £600. You can then spend more on something that's a bit more premium.in design.
    any opinion on the new Dell xps 13? the reviews seem to be good!
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    any opinion on the new Dell xps 13? the reviews seem to be good!
    Hi there! :wavey:

    To get you more replies, I have moved your post to a brand new thread
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    (Original post by marshalld67)
    any opinion on the new Dell xps 13? the reviews seem to be good!
    You can pretty much substitute "MacBook Pro" in my post that you've quoted for any premium slimline Windows notebooks (and remove the bit about the operating system of course) and it still fits- you're paying for premium build quality and a slim design compared to cheaper but similarly powerful laptops. The XPS 13 is an excellent laptop but whether its premium design justify the extra cost over something more conservative is up to you.
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    So, I had one of the older XPS models a while back - it was decent overall for what it did, but it broke down constantly. By the end of the warranty period every component had been replaced at least once (and the motherboard twice) - this wasn't due to dropping or water damage or anything either, just in the process of regular use while sat on a desk and rarely moving from that location. While they were fairly decent at replacing bits when it did break, once the warranty ran out I think it lasted 6-8 months then I had to get a new laptop. This is, I gather, not unusual for Dell - I tend to avoid them as a result.

    A friend of mine has one of the original run Windows Surfaces - it's a lovely machine and actually can run some games at min settings (e.g. HotS, probably League, Hearthstone) while being very conveniently sized and having the benefits of a tablet with no discernible downsides. However I believe the newer versions, while of comparable (up to date) quality, tend to have a slightly higher price point than the original run, so your mileage may vary...

    For what it's worth I currently have a Lenovo, but recently they've changed up the manufacturing of their IdeaPad 500 series (former Z series) and they're pretty trash now, so I switched to a Y series (but I game a lot - if you're not a PC gamer then its probably unnecessary).
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    (Original post by artful_lounger)
    So, I had one of the older XPS models a while back - it was decent overall for what it did, but it broke down constantly. By the end of the warranty period every component had been replaced at least once (and the motherboard twice) - this wasn't due to dropping or water damage or anything either, just in the process of regular use while sat on a desk and rarely moving from that location. While they were fairly decent at replacing bits when it did break, once the warranty ran out I think it lasted 6-8 months then I had to get a new laptop. This is, I gather, not unusual for Dell - I tend to avoid them as a result.

    A friend of mine has one of the original run Windows Surfaces - it's a lovely machine and actually can run some games at min settings (e.g. HotS, probably League, Hearthstone) while being very conveniently sized and having the benefits of a tablet with no discernible downsides. However I believe the newer versions, while of comparable (up to date) quality, tend to have a slightly higher price point than the original run, so your mileage may vary...

    For what it's worth I currently have a Lenovo, but recently they've changed up the manufacturing of their IdeaPad 500 series (former Z series) and they're pretty trash now, so I switched to a Y series (but I game a lot - if you're not a PC gamer then its probably unnecessary).
    Dell have done a lot of work on the XPS series, and the modern iterations have been excellent for the last couple of years.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    Dell have done a lot of work on the XPS series, and the modern iterations have been excellent for the last couple of years.
    May be worth it then OP - plus if you get an extended warranty of some sort (idk what they offer, if they have anything 3 years or more with accidental damage it's almost certainly worth it) then all the better as that will probably last you out until you'd realistically be looking to upgrade anyway.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    Dell have done a lot of work on the XPS series, and the modern iterations have been excellent for the last couple of years.
    And yet, we've stopped ordering them for staff, as we are constantly having to send them back with hardware faults (7x Mainboard replacement, 11x keyboard replacement, 4x dead battery within 3 months, etc).

    We have reverted to issuing Latitude 5000 and 7000 series, as the only fault we've had so far on the new models is someone sitting on it ( :facepalm:) and breaking the screen.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    You can pretty much substitute "MacBook Pro" in my post that you've quoted for any premium slimline Windows notebooks (and remove the bit about the operating system of course) and it still fits- you're paying for premium build quality and a slim design compared to cheaper but similarly powerful laptops. The XPS 13 is an excellent laptop but whether its premium design justify the extra cost over something more conservative is up to you.
    So is there any alternative you can recommend then? I like the lightweight and thin designs because I travel an awful lot so it reflects that. I've never considered mac because I don't need the system they have and I don't wish to pay just for the name. I don't mind paying extra for good quality but obviously, i don't want to overspend and waste money! It's mostly for (hopefully ill get in) university and general life/travel. The most specialised thing I do is basic edits to my GoPro footage
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    So is there any alternative you can recommend then? I like the lightweight and thin designs because I travel an awful lot so it reflects that. I've never considered mac because I don't need the system they have and I don't wish to pay just for the name. I don't mind paying extra for good quality but obviously, i don't want to overspend and waste money! It's mostly for (hopefully ill get in) university and general life/travel. The most specialised thing I do is basic edits to my GoPro footage
    For a premium lightweight laptop in this class of power, my personal recommendations are the Dell XPS 13, MacBook Pro Retina and Microsoft Surface Laptop. Most manufacturers have a premium laptop in this space though, so have a look into HP's Envy line or Asus' and Lenovo's options too.

    For something cheaper and less premium, there always be loads of options. I can't make any specific recommendations, head over to sites like saveonlaptops and filter but the specs you want.
 
 
 
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