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Edexcel Mechanics M4 and M5 13th and 19th June 2018 Exam Discussion

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Original post by Redcoats
I got a different answer for 5(c) mine had (ln(blah))^2 as in the natural log was squared


Do you mean it was the same thing, just with a "squared" at the end? Because that's what I wrote in the exam - just forgot to put it on here.
Any grade boundary estimates - I think it will be similar to 2012 boundaries
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Original post by mupsman2312
Anyone else remember getting answers like these?

Q1: 8 Joules

Q2: a = -3.5 and b = 2.5

Q3: r = [cos^2(t/2) - 2cos^3(t/2)]i + [cos^2(t/2) + sin(t)]j

Q4: I = 16M/7

Q5(c): K.E. = (MU^2)/8[2 - ln(1 - lambda)] Joules

6(b): X = 3mg/2 and Y = sqrt(3)mg/2 ==> |F| = sqrt(3)mg

7(a): Period = 2pi.sqrt[(a^2 + 40l^2)/11gl] seconds
7(c): Impulse = 3m.sqrt[11g(a^2 + 40l^2)/2l] Ns

Some of the answers were so messy (particularly to Q7) - I *THINK* these are what I got.


I concur on 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. 5 I got a different answer, one I’m confident on. If you remember how you worked yours out we can have a look at that. Could you write your answers to 7 out on a piece of paper? Trying to decipher that mess is giving me a headache :smile:. I’ll check that once you do.
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Original post by Redcoats
Any grade boundary estimates - I think it will be similar to 2012 boundaries


You're joking, right? It could be quite low, but THAT low? I'd love it if it is, but I can't see it myself. You never know, though - you could be right; it wasn't the nicest paper, in my opinion.
Original post by EdwardG
I concur on 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. 5 I got a different answer, one I’m confident on. If you remember how you worked yours out we can have a look at that. Could you write yours answers to 7 out on a piece of paper? Trying to decipher that mess is giving me a headache :smile:. I’ll check that once you do.
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I got that
Original post by mupsman2312
You're joking, right? It could be quite low, but THAT low? I'd love it if it is, but I can't see it myself. You never know, though - you could be right; it wasn't the nicest paper, in my opinion.


I was joking ... feebly

Maybe around 63-65.

What do you think?
Original post by EdwardG
I concur on 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. 5 I got a different answer, one I’m confident on. If you remember how you worked yours out we can have a look at that. Could you write your answers to 7 out on a piece of paper? Trying to decipher that mess is giving me a headache :smile:. I’ll check that once you do.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure you're right on question 5 - I used the initial speed of the rocket as U instead of zero. Such a silly mistake! :angry:

If I did everything else right, could I still be looking at about 3-4/6?

I got all the way down to using SUVAT (v=u+at) with the correct values of t and a, but the wrong value of u (the only one that was actually given to you in the question!).

I'll write my answers to Q7 on paper, and put them in another post.
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Original post by EdwardG
I concur on 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. 5 I got a different answer, one I’m confident on. If you remember how you worked yours out we can have a look at that. Could you write your answers to 7 out on a piece of paper? Trying to decipher that mess is giving me a headache :smile:. I’ll check that once you do.
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I got something different for question 7
Original post by Redcoats
I got a different answer for 5(c) mine had (ln(blah))^2 as in the natural log was squared


By the way, I've just realised that wasn't actually what I wrote in the exam, but I in fact put something else which was also wrong! I believe that what you said is correct - I've realised the silly mistake that I made on that question.
Original post by mupsman2312
By the way, I've just realised that wasn't actually what I wrote in the exam, but I in fact put something else which was also wrong! I believe that what you said is correct - I've realised the silly mistake that I made on that question.


That's ok. What do you think you've got out of 75?
Here's a handwritten copy of my answers to 7(a) and 7(c):

M5 Exam Q7 001.jpg
Original post by Redcoats
That's ok. What do you think you've got out of 75?


Depends upon question 7: if it's right, then potentially about 72; if not, then somewhere in the mid-to-high 60's most probably. What about you?
Original post by Redcoats
I was joking ... feebly

Maybe around 63-65.

What do you think?


Probably high 60's for an A* (68-69). Could drop as low as 65, though. Here's hoping!
Original post by mupsman2312
Here's a handwritten copy of my answers to 7(a) and 7(c):

M5 Exam Q7 001.jpg


I accidently thought the rod was of length 2l so my answers are incorrect.

How many marks do you think I'll lose for that?
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Original post by Redcoats
I accidently thought the rod was of length 2l so my answers are incorrect.

How many marks do you think I'll lose for that?


I wouldn't like to say - I'm not the best at judging the leniency of the mark schemes.

If it's obvious that that's your only mistake, then you should hopefully still get all of the M marks and A ft marks.

Could you still show parts b and d? If so, then that's already 7 out of the 16 marks not to worry about.
Original post by mupsman2312
Depends upon question 7: if it's right, then potentially about 72; if not, then somewhere in the mid-to-high 60's most probably. What about you?


Maybe low to mid 60s
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Original post by mupsman2312
Here's a handwritten copy of my answers to 7(a) and 7(c):

M5 Exam Q7 001.jpg


I’m am pleased to be able to confirm your answers, well, at least the last one. Can’t remember the others. Kept the 1/2 on the outside but aside from that identical.
Did anyone else give their answer to the differential equation in either of these two forms?

r = [cos^2(t/2) - 2cos^3(t/2)]i + [cos^2(t/2) + 2sin(t/2)cos(t/2)]j

r = [cos^2(t/2) - 2cos^3(t/2)]i + [cos^2(t/2) + sin(t)]j
Original post by EdwardG
I’m am pleased to be able to confirm your answers, well, at least the last one. Can’t remember the others. Kept the 1/2 on the outside but aside from that identical.


What do you think you've got out of 75?

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