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    Barnetlad - Endorsed By TSR Green Party
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    Gcx- Endorsed by TSR Libertarian Party
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    Saoirce - Endorsed by both the TSR Labour and TSR Socialist Parties
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    That'sAGoodOne - Endorsed by TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
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    Greetings Mp's..

    As the deadline for manifesto's has now passed we will begin a four day secret ballot to decide which one candidate will be elected as a member of parliament.

    The ballot will be contested on a one member, one vote basis under the First Past The Post system with the highest scoring candidate being elected.

    I am pleased to say that the Labour, Green, Conservative and Libertarian parties have stood a candidate.

    All voters must have been a member for 3 months and made 100 posts. I shall be requesting this validation from the CT post-ballot.

    Have fun people.

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    Barnetlad - Green Party Candidate



    Vote Barnetlad for a Green and Pleasant Land


    I have debated, contributed Bills and have for the last few months led the Green Party. We have only one planet and should take care of it, bringing environmental and social justice. So we should:

    On energy and the environment
    End the use of fossil fuels for energy- we generate 50% or so of our electricity this way, and should reduce it to 25% or less in ten years and nil in twenty.
    No new diesel cars by 2021 and all new taxis and minicabs electric by 2025.
    Introduce a tax on plastic bottles, cups and lids, and obliging retailers to accept or offer non-plastic alternatives.
    Saying no to fracking, no to a third Heathrow runway.
    Protect the Green belt.

    On housing and buildings
    50,000 new social houses being built a year.
    No payment in lieu of meeting affordable housing obligations.
    Solar panels for all new developments, for public buildings and rail or bus stations and stops.

    For Education
    No new grammar schools.
    Free up time in the curriculum for life skills and social education.
    Replacing tuition fees by a graduate tax.
    School meal nutritional standards to be improved and for all schools.
    Cycle parking at all schools and cycle training for all year 5 and 6 pupils.
    Reform of the PSHE curriculum to help equip young people given the world they have today of social media and other peer pressure.

    For social justice
    No bedroom tax.
    Weekly payments of universal credit and other benefits.
    Reform of the justice system and sentence options in the digital age we live in.
    A lower drink-driving limit to save lives.

    And not forgetting
    A Brexit that keeps us in the customs union and the single market.
    No Trident replacement.
    A Royal Commission on the often sweat shop produced and environmentally unfriendly clothing retailing market in the UK.
    An Inquiry into policing at Orgreave in 1984.
    Care of dogs through a dog registration scheme.
    A local unitary authority council for Canvey Island.



    Vote for Barnetlad


    Gcx - Libertarian Party Candidate



    Saoirce - Labour Party Candidate



    That'sAGoodOne -Conservative and Unionist Party Candidate





    I’m standing in this by-election to fight for economic liberalism, opportunity and aspiration. I believe that with the diligence of the people, we can truly achieve a better society and put the Great back into Britain.


    As an MP, I give an undertaking to:
    • propose wide-scale and overarching reform to the defunct, and unfit-for-purpose PSHE scheme that lacks the appropriate composition to effectively educate pupils,
    • prevent schools rated anything other than Outstanding or Good from expanding and requiring new schools to pair up with existing Outstanding schools for a specified period of time as an experienced aider in the day-to-day operations,
    • raise the income threshold that exempts apprentices from paying council tax and create a separate income threshold for London,
    • review policy on Police and Crime Commissioners,
    • review foreign aid spending to ensure value for money for both us and the recipients,
    • reduce National Insurance contributions for under 25s,
    • make legal aid more available to those who can't afford representation in essential legal matters.

    We are facing a government without consensus nearing instability. The sensible alternative to the Labour, Liberal and Socialist parties is the Conservative and Unionist Party. I have the experience of being an MP and by voting for me you’re placing your trust in me to deliver change.



    It’s time we place our trust with a pragmatic candidate, backed by a pragmatic party! So vote for change, vote for ThatsAGoodOne349!

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    Libertarians - Most of it is just attacking the Government and the Opposition. Except the difference is there's reasoning for why the Government is failing but not the Opposition... Policy makes up a small part of the manifesto which is what I wanted to see but unfortunately it's diluted with unnecessary waffle.
    Labour - Don't remember the Conservative Party proposing a tax haven on TSR but... ok. I don't think you guys can talk about the housing crisis when in government you produced the hideous Modular Housing Bill in response to the Conservatives' motion that didn't do anything but try to mess with the housing market and worsen the housing crisis. And it failed in the division, despite "commanding" a majority.
    Conservatives - I'm delighted to see my good colleague ThatsAGoodOne349 displaying resilience and diligence by representing the Conservative & Unionist Party in this by-election. The policies proposed are pragmatic, practical and prudent. Focusing mainly on policy for the future instead of attacking, and not making promises that we realistically cannot meet - the Conservative & Unionist Party is the sensible alternative to the other parties standing here today.

    Oh dear, forgot about the Greens. Well I think the fact that their manifesto didn't really catch my eye is telling. I say no more.
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    The choice is clear vote gcx if you do not support this government
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    Or barnetlad

    You know what you are getting with labour and the socs, the tories don’t have any true beliefs so went begging everyone they could to vote for them offering to support a party in governments policies in exchange for votes.


    ThatsAGoodOne349 how can you run as an alternative to a party that you’re offering to pass their policies?
    Unown Uzer do you back the attempted deal or are you hoping to grab onto the tories pocket?
    Saoirse:3 why should anyone vote for you when your own party haven’t made you a mp despite having MPs who struggle to reach a 70% voting record
    barnetlad your manifesto looks like something I came up with in 5 minutes for the speaker election, if that’s the effort you put in why should people think if you become mp you will put the effort in?
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    You know what you are getting with labour and the socs, the tories don’t have any true beliefs so went begging everyone they could to vote for them offering to support a party in governments policies in exchange for votes.
    Let's not. You aren't doing yourself or your party any favours.
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    Let's not. You aren't doing yourself or your party any favours.
    You know it’s true, you ‘tried’ to work with 3 parties the libers and ukip as well as a party in a government you claim to oppose yet offered to support their policies.

    I’m pretty open about these things people should know about your proposed deal before voting, can you name some things the party you have a deal with and the party you offered to supports policies have in common?
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    The Libertarians - close to releasing bills? We're close to releasing a budget yet apparently we've not done our jobs. We've got substantive SOI achievements and worked towards decent legislation. Clearly we're the worst government ever - or maybe it's just that they're not in on the fun.

    A vote for the Libertarians at present is a vote for a house that is fractious, rude and not worth being part of.
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    (Original post by Afcwimbledon2)
    The Libertarians - close to releasing bills? We're close to releasing a budget yet apparently we've not done our jobs. We've got substantive SOI achievements and worked towards decent legislation. Clearly we're the worst government ever - or maybe it's just that they're not in on the fun.

    A vote for the Libertarians at present is a vote for a house that is fractious, rude and not worth being part of.
    We are so close we have been releasing them we have had 1 this week already and one to be released tomorrow, if you are close please tell us the date it is released.

    Yet it is you who is displaying the things you claim this house is.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    The choice is clear vote gcx if you do not support this government
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    Or barnetlad

    You know what you are getting with labour and the socs, the tories don’t have any true beliefs so went begging everyone they could to vote for them offering to support a party in governments policies in exchange for votes.


    ThatsAGoodOne349 how can you run as an alternative to a party that you’re offering to pass their policies?
    Unown Uzer do you back the attempted deal or are you hoping to grab onto the tories pocket?
    Saoirse:3 why should anyone vote for you when your own party haven’t made you a mp despite having MPs who struggle to reach a 70% voting record
    barnetlad your manifesto looks like something I came up with in 5 minutes for the speaker election, if that’s the effort you put in why should people think if you become mp you will put the effort in?
    Can you rephrase your point please? I don't understand it
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    (Original post by ThatsAGoodOne349)
    Can you rephrase your point please? I don't understand it
    Your leader offered the liberals a deal they vote for you and you and the Tory mps would vote for their policies, that doesn’t seem like an alternative to me, so how can you call yourself in your manifesto the alternative?
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    Labour - Don't remember the Conservative Party proposing a tax haven on TSR but... ok. I don't think you guys can talk about the housing crisis when in government you produced the hideous Modular Housing Bill in response to the Conservatives' motion that didn't do anything but try to mess with the housing market and worsen the housing crisis. And it failed in the division, despite "commanding" a majority.
    Let's clarify this. The Government took a motion which basically said "subsidise the private sector at no benefit to the homeless", and the Tories voted to leave people in poverty. These are the facts. Your position is morally indefensible and you are making a mockery of your party by bringing the Bill up.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Let's clarify this. The Government took a motion which basically said "subsidise the private sector at no benefit to the homeless", and the Tories voted to leave people in poverty. These are the facts. Your position is morally indefensible and you are making a mockery of your party by bringing the Bill up.
    Let's not talk about mockery when the result for that bill was a perfect example of Government incompetence. Glass houses, right?
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    Your leader offered the liberals a deal they vote for you and you and the Tory mps would vote for their policies, that doesn’t seem like an alternative to me, so how can you call yourself in your manifesto the alternative?
    I am not the advocate for these sorts of deals, so don't pick the wrong fights.

    I don't seem to see a whole lot of originality to be honest, and I hope (along with the rest of the CUP) to
    bring more of this.
    I may be wrong here, but who isn't?
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    (Original post by ThatsAGoodOne349)
    I wasn't exactly the advocate for these deals, so don't pick the wrong fights.

    I don't seem to see a whole lot of originality to be honest, and I hope (along with the rest of the CUP) to
    bring more of this.
    I may be wrong here, but who isn't?
    You are representing yourself and your party here asking about your party seems like a fair question.

    Would you have voted for the liberal policies promised if the deal happened?
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    (Original post by Afcwimbledon2)
    The Libertarians - close to releasing bills? We're close to releasing a budget yet apparently we've not done our jobs. We've got substantive SOI achievements and worked towards decent legislation. Clearly we're the worst government ever - or maybe it's just that they're not in on the fun.

    A vote for the Libertarians at present is a vote for a house that is fractious, rude and not worth being part of.
    Are you going to release a statement about you talking to the cons about a deal?
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    (Original post by Afcwimbledon2)
    Are you going to actually behave like a nice person or carry on just being rude and a drain on the house while the rest of us barely tolerate you?
    I’ve asked a question it is you being rude and personally attacking me
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    barnetlad your manifesto looks like something I came up with in 5 minutes for the speaker election, if that’s the effort you put in why should people think if you become mp you will put the effort in?
    Since I became Green Party leader in July, there have been ten bills or motions I have submitted to the House, the majority of which I was the author of.

    As for the style of the manifesto, it is designed to be read on a phone or tablet, and can be read by many of the software options I am aware of available for those with limited sight. Two family members have limited sight, both since a fairly young age, such that neither are allowed to have a car licence.
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    Ok look. The Coalition are total retards. We got that right.
    Having recently defected, I do believe that any vote for Labour, Socialists and the floccinaucinihilipilificationato rs is a total disaster, and will ruin us. I mean look at Labour in rl, we will end up like that and the UK will basically be a barren wasteland with Abbott and Corbyn left remaining in a sort of hunger games situtation.
    IDEK WHAT I am talking about, I am half asleep.
    And I know the word was used wrongly, but come on, it is a great word.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Since I became Green Party leader in July, there have been ten bills or motions I have submitted to the House, the majority of which I was the author of.

    As for the style of the manifesto, it is designed to be read on a phone or tablet, and can be read by many of the software options I am aware of available for those with limited sight. Two family members have limited sight, both since a fairly young age, such that neither are allowed to have a car licence.
    Interesting answer, bravo.
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    btw greens. Do none of you have basic computer skills. I missed your manifesto, it must be because, well, you WILL NEVER WIN!
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    Let's not talk about mockery when the result for that bill was a perfect example of Government incompetence. Glass houses, right?
    If you're referring to the act that it failed to pass, I'm not sure how new you are to MHoC, but it's quite common for Govt Bills to fail, and opposition Bills to pass.
 
 
 
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