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    Britain is actually £490 billion poorer than we thought ONS reveals
    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...reveals/16/10/

    6 charts from the OECD show how Brexit has damaged the British economy
    http://www.businessinsider.fr/uk/oec...onomy-2017-10/

    Inflation hits 3% for the first time in 5 years as Brexit continues to bite
    http://www.businessinsider.fr/us/bre...eptember-2017/

    UK retail sales slump in September as inflation and wage woes bite
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...nflation-wages

    Brexit: City firms ready for 'irreversible' relocations unless transition is agreed
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8003456.html

    Brexit: Pound sterling could fall to parity against the euro if UK fails to secure EU trade deal, analysts say
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8002996.html

    Profit warnings soar as economy struggles, says EY
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/b...-ey-b7kcwzcpp#

    No deal Brexit could place £500m a year added strain on NHS, health chiefs warn
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...in-nhs-health/

    Brexit: No deal would cost millions of families £500 a year, warns major study
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8002826.html

    Britain's luxury car industry at risk without Brexit deal
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...t-brexit-deal/

    Irish PM: UK will be in 'weak trade position' post Brexit
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-41659760

    UK North Sea oil faces quickening decline if no Brexit deal
    http://www.worldoil.com/news/2017/10...no-brexit-deal

    Asset managers fear UK will suffer Brexit jobs exodus
    https://www.ft.com/content/803186c4-...8-73d59db9e399

    Brexit: UK will struggle to change UK borders in time, says watchdog
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41693850

    Creative industries facing 'catastrophic' loss of talent after Brexit
    http://news.sky.com/story/creative-i...rexit-11092989
    (for perspective:
    https://inews.co.uk/essentials/comes...or-uk-economy/)


    Opinion:

    With evidence of a failing Brexit, who needs prophecy?
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...remainers-doom

    Britain’s Brexit car crash is happening in slow motion
    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...tion-1.3263396
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    "6 charts from the OECD show how Brexit has damaged the British economy"

    We haven't left the EU yet...
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    "6 charts from the OECD show how Brexit has damaged the British economy"

    We haven't left the EU yet...
    If only the possibility, the anticipation, the expectation of leaving the EU damages your economy that much, image what the actual Brexit will do to it.

    Poor try to distract from the dumpster fire that is Brexit by whining about semantics. If you can't challenge the actual content of the article, just save yourself the embarrassment and refrain from commenting.
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    Poor old frustrated GenialGerman still banging on with his cherry picked one-sided articles. You have to pity him. Just how much does he personally stand to lose from BrExit to put this much effort in.

    Funny isn't it. He claims that Britain is done for, that it's all a colossal mistake, we're all going to be poor and disadvantaged . . . . yet 1/2 the world is busily jumping on planes, jumping in lorries, jumping in rickety boats, risking their lives to get to Britain !! Go figure.

    Once BrExit is done, once the expected hardships are over, once the British Constitution is restored, he will be the laughing stock along with the other EU member states. In reality, most of them want out of the EU as well. Whether they are strong enough to do it is another matter.

    We will live in freedom, impoverished if necessary, rather than be slaves and minions to a corrupt EU cesspit.
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    (Original post by GenialGermanGent)
    If only the possibility, the anticipation, the expectation of leaving the EU damages your economy that much, image what the actual Brexit will do to it.

    Poor try to distract from the dumpster fire that is Brexit by whining about semantics. If you can't challenge the actual content of the article, just save yourself the embarrassment and refrain from commenting.
    I'm challenging it by saying that Brexit hasn't happened.

    Just because I raise something you don't like doesn't mean I should refrain from making a comment - I find that quite condescending.
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    I'm challenging it by saying that Brexit hasn't happened.

    Just because I raise something you don't like doesn't mean I should refrain from making a comment - I find that quite condescending.
    Neither the headline nor the article itself implies that Brexit has already happened. Brexit is clearly more than what happens in March 2019, it's a process, a promise/threat (depending on your perspective), a phenomenon.

    This is not about me liking or disliking something. I was correcting your false and naive interpretation. I do tend to be condescending to people who don't understand basic language.
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    (Original post by GenialGermanGent)
    Britain is actually £490 billion poorer than we thought ONS reveals
    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...reveals/16/10/
    Wrong:

    https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2017/10/23/h...-gone-missing/
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    No, it's correct. The blog post you linked to just puts this drop in UK-held foreign assets in perspective and correct incorrect language used by some media outlets - the article I linked to never claimed that funds have 'gone missing'. It's a fact that the UK's IIP has deteriorated, and that the net FDI in the first half of this year is also negative.
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    (Original post by GenialGermanGent)
    Neither the headline nor the article itself implies that Brexit has already happened. Brexit is clearly more than what happens in March 2019, it's a process, a promise/threat (depending on your perspective), a phenomenon.

    This is not about me liking or disliking something. I was correcting your false and naive interpretation. I do tend to be condescending to people who don't understand basic language.
    Doesn't the headline and the text you put above it suggest that Brexit has already happened by saying "how Brexit has damaged the economy"? It doesn't say the Brexit vote, it says Brexit which implies it has already happened. No, Brexit means Britain leaving the EU.

    It clearly is if you want me to refrain from expressing my totally valid opinion. False and naive? Don't understand basic language?... Perhaps you need someone to knock you off your high horse so you can realise the irony of what you're saying.
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    Doesn't the headline and the text you put above it suggest that Brexit has already happened by saying "how Brexit has damaged the economy"? It doesn't say the Brexit vote, it says Brexit which implies it has already happened. No, Brexit means Britain leaving the EU.
    No, it does not suggest or imply that. As I pointed out before, Brexit is an ongoing process, and that is clearly what the headline and the article refer to. Everyone but you understands that.

    The fact remains that you have to resort to debating semantics rather than challenging the contents of the article (which are catastrophic for your party and political orientation).

    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    It clearly is if you want me to refrain from expressing my totally valid opinion. False and naive? Don't understand basic language?... Perhaps you need someone to knock you off your high horse so you can realise the irony of what you're saying.
    Maybe I do, but it clearly won't be you as you do indeed not understand basic language and make false and naive interpretations.

    I really do quite enjoy picking apart your weak, desperate pseudo-arguments and then reading your adorably indignant replies, whining about how I dare to use such tone and debating style. What a snowflake you are.
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    (Original post by GenialGermanGent)
    What a snowflake you are.
    How ironic - you seem to be describing yourself very accurately. This is coming from the buffoon and bigot who likes to cherry-pick articles every week to cry about why "Brexit is an idiotic mistake" - pretty little snowflake eh?
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    Those 6 charts by the EU linked OECD show how brexit is positive, the article tries unsuccessfully to spin them as negative.

    Chart 1: Out of date since growth is up from 0.3% to 0.4% and as a result the pound has soared.
    Chart 2: Shows how the referendum vote has caused the FTSE100 and 250, the biggest measures of UK company success, to go up.
    Chart 3: Doesn't even go past the referendum date, shows a problem we've had since 2007. How can that be blamed on brexit,,,
    Chart 4: Shows since brexit the decline in disposable income has been reversed.
    Chart 5: Shows good news for exports, despite having a stupid scale and resolution.
    Chart 6: There's no such thing as EU funds. We give them billions of pounds, they give a fraction back and tell us how to spend it. We could keep paying these funds and have money to spare.
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    How ironic - you seem to be describing yourself very accurately. This is coming from the buffoon and bigot who likes to cherry-pick articles every week to cry about why "Brexit is an idiotic mistake" - pretty little snowflake eh?
    You seem to be very misinformed about what "snowflake" actually means. I can defend my articles, my points - where did yours go? Oh right, all debunked. Not that they were real points to begin with.

    I am not 'crying' about how Brexit is a mistake - as a europhile German I am celebrating it!

    As said many times before, I challenge you to produce an equal amount of equally substantial Brexit 'success stories' every week - but as usual, it'll be nothing but crickets (or nit-picking semantics) from your side. Typical snowflake.
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    well, we can't back out now.
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    (Original post by GenialGermanGent)
    You seem to be very misinformed about what "snowflake" actually means. I can defend my articles, my points - where did yours go? Oh right, all debunked. Not that they were real points to begin with.

    I am not 'crying' about how Brexit is a mistake - as a europhile German I am celebrating it!

    As said many times before, I challenge you to produce an equal amount of equally substantial Brexit 'success stories' every week - but as usual, it'll be nothing but crickets (or nit-picking semantics) from your side. Typical snowflake.
    No. If you don't like your views being challenged and you start telling people to refrain from making comments it means you're a snowflake. They were valid points... the fact that you fail to recognise that we haven't actually left the EU suggests you're incapable of grasping the most simplest of things. So it doesn't really give yourself a good impression to readers of your little safe space here.

    If you're making posts like this, which essentially is whining about the Brexit vote and the (expected) implications of it, then perhaps you should "refrain" from making patronising comments like "snowflake"... I'm obviously being sarcastic, you can say what you want because I'm not a bigot and I respect people expressing their views regardless if I like them or not.

    This is where I stop responding because I'd rather not engage with a clearly delusional person who is just plain rude.
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    (Original post by Hatter_2)
    Chart 1: Out of date since growth is up from 0.3% to 0.4% and as a result the pound has soared.
    Still one of the worst-performing G20 economies. Where was your growth rate and exchange rate before the referendum?

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    Chart 2: Shows how the referendum vote has caused the FTSE100 and 250, the biggest measures of UK company success, to go up.
    Can you read? It's mostly because of overseas firms who benefit from your currency going down the drain. UK-focused stocks have under-performed massively since the referendum.

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    (Original post by Hatter_2)
    Chart 3: Doesn't even go past the referendum date, shows a problem we've had since 2007. How can that be blamed on brexit,,,
    What makes you think your productivity has increased since, with masses of EU nationals -on which your economy is highly dependent on- leaving?

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    Chart 4: Shows since brexit the decline in disposable income has been reversed.
    Too bad you didn't read my post past the second article. See the third article. Disposable income shrinking (and of course way below pre-referendum levels)

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    (Original post by Hatter_2)
    Chart 5: Shows good news for exports, despite having a stupid scale and resolution.
    Really? The curve seems to drop at the end again, quite sharply even. Also:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7992051.html
    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article60508.html
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/audio...eu-export-loss

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    (Original post by Hatter_2)
    Chart 6: There's no such thing as EU funds. We give them billions of pounds, they give a fraction back and tell us how to spend it. We could keep paying these funds and have money to spare.
    What a load of nonsense - of course there are EU funds awarded to poorer regions, to regions with strong agricultural activities. Do your homework, kid.

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2016/1...nding-is-gone/
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-how-does-thi/

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    (Original post by Hatter_2)
    Those 6 charts by the EU linked OECD show how brexit is positive, the article tries unsuccessfully to spin them as negative.
    No, you just don't know nearly enough about the subject, as this post has shown.
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    (Original post by GenialGermanGent)
    Still one of the worst-performing G20 economies. Where was your growth rate and exchange rate before the referendum?

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    Can you read? It's mostly because of overseas firms who benefit from your currency going down the drain. UK-focused stocks have under-performed massively since the referendum.

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    What makes you think your productivity has increased since, with masses of EU nationals -on which your economy is highly dependent on- leaving?

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    Too bad you didn't read my post past the second article. See the third article. Disposable income shrinking (and of course way below pre-referendum levels)

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    Really? The curve seems to drop at the end again, quite sharply even. Also:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7992051.html
    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article60508.html
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/audio...eu-export-loss

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    What a load of nonsense - of course there are EU funds awarded to poorer regions, to regions with strong agricultural activities. Do your homework, kid.

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2016/1...nding-is-gone/
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-how-does-thi/

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    No, you just don't know nearly enough about the subject, as this post has shown.
    Ok, continue being delusional or lying. I bet you must be searching inside that head really hard for some reason why the AfD could possibly have jumped to third place inside this EU Utopia.
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    your moaning and complaining ain't gonna do anything so we might as well be optimistic.
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    (Original post by Hatter_2)
    Ok, continue being delusional or lying. I bet you must be searching inside that head really hard for some reason why the AfD could possibly have jumped to third place inside this EU Utopia.
    Delusional? Lying? These are the facts. Challenge them if you want - oh wait, you can't.

    AfD scored 12% (still politically isolated, mind you) because of xenophobia and islamophobia. There are stupid, uneducated, racist people in Germany, too - luckily not nearly as many as in Britain, as the Brexit vote has shown, or as in the US, as Trump has shown.
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    (Original post by CoffeeGeek)
    No. If you don't like your views being challenged and you start telling people to refrain from making comments it means you're a snowflake. They were valid points... the fact that you fail to recognise that we haven't actually left the EU suggests you're incapable of grasping the most simplest of things. So it doesn't really give yourself a good impression to readers of your little safe space here.

    If you're making posts like this, which essentially is whining about the Brexit vote and the (expected) implications of it, then perhaps you should "refrain" from making patronising comments like "snowflake"... I'm obviously being sarcastic, you can say what you want because I'm not a bigot and I respect people expressing their views regardless if I like them or not.

    This is where I stop responding because I'd rather not engage with a clearly delusional person who is just plain rude.
    OP is just a nutter from the banking sector who wants to milk dry every bit of land he treads on. He cares naught about people.
 
 
 
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