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    Hefce used to have something but it was based on local authorities and not individual universities. So all HE providers in a LA region were collated.
    Thanks, but I'm sure I saw something else - but maybe I'm making it up...
    My brain is remembering it as a presentation by a couple of scottish academics. oh well...
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    Thanks, but I'm sure I saw something else - but maybe I'm making it up...
    My brain is remembering it as a presentation by a couple of scottish academics. oh well...
    There’s lots of university developed things along those lines. And I think there’s something in heidiplus but not in the public domain iirr.
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    It's not just Oxbridge - there's a strong north/south divide in university. Moving "down south" for any university is tricky (I've seen students tweeting this week about how they're struggling with some aspects of moving from the north to the south that are exactly the sort of thing that put off lots of students).
    I can see the age gap growing.

    When I wrote what I did, I saw my comments in terms of class but not geography. Jude is a Berkshire (within Wessex in Hardy's world) man. I can remember when working class townies in Oxford spoke in a gentle Mummerset burr. That burr is still spoken in Dorchester-on-Thames (not Dorchester Dorset) about as far from any madding crowd as it is possible to get. I suspect for the present generation, Oxford is a city of Received Pronunciation and Pidgin English only.
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    If. That is a big word. I think it far more likely that such people would have got there no matter what school they attended.
    A comforting argument, but the facts are against it being correct - a relatively short list of schools reliably dominate the bulk of the UK-student admission charts. Logic suggests it isn't entirely down to personal achievement or capability, relative to the bigger picture of the national student body.
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    It's not just Oxbridge - there's a strong north/south divide in university. Moving "down south" for any university is tricky (I've seen students tweeting this week about how they're struggling with some aspects of moving from the north to the south that are exactly the sort of thing that put off lots of students).

    Universities in the south are a lot more regional than most people imagine (look at Bristol's intake map http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2...s_10007786.pdf or UEA http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2...s_10007789.pdf or Surrey http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2...s_10007160.pdf or Southampton http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2...s_10007158.pdf or Reading http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2...s_10007802.pdf compared to Leeds http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2...s_10007795.pdf (or any midlands/northern university)) - ONS did a series of reports about how students move south > north for university and then move back (but not the other way round)
    We see this very strongly at QMUL, which has a high E. London bias in intake.

    Given the national status of Oxbridge, it might make sense to reduce regional bias by opening branch colleges in the regions, coupled with aggressive methods of selection - for example, nominating target students in under-represented regions and schools to come to Oxbridge interview, rather than awaiting applications passively - and then making huge efforts to encourage them to follow through with travel bursaries, personalised help and support, etc.
 
 
 
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