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B1297 - Prison Reform Bill 2017, TSR Government Watch

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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    I think that there should be some exceptions, especially for sexual offences, and the range of non-custodial punishments or sentences should be reviewed. Somehow we need to allow for the fact that we live in an age where Internet based offences occur, can be found out about years later, and that there are a greater range of non-custodial sentences that could be used.

    I'd like to see passports withdrawn for a period after release as one option for sentencing, which for so-called white collar crime could be effective. Someone who has used.a motor vehicle to get to and from the place where a crime took place should not be allowed to drive immediately upon release.

    As things can be found out years later secretly by employers, somehow we need to think about how this is tackled.
    I would oppose exemptions for this at all. Remember that this all takes effect after their punishment is over. Most serious offences would not be affected by these changes anyway due to the length of the prison term. Note that spent sentences do still appear on a standard or enhanced criminal records check, and for sexual offences, they may be on the register. Both of these aspects remain in place to protect at-risk individuals and groups.

    I disagree. If someone wants to leave the country after they have finished their punishment then that is fine by me. I also don't think that it is something that happens regularly anyway. I'm not sure why you are trying to extend punishments tbh.
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    There needs to be a balanced approach when it comes to prisons. It should be a mix of punishment and rehab. Yes Criminals need to know what they have done is wrong and therefore prison is a punishment. however we should give prisoners the opportunity to gain qualifications in prison and to help prepare them to life outside of prison.

    I'll Abstain for now
    This doesn't prevent prisons being a place of punishment, only that punishment cannot be the sole reason for a custodial sentence. Prisons are expensive ways to punish someone, so should only be used where there is a need to protect the public or rehabilitate them. If there is no need for either of those things other forms of punishment can be used.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Being soft on crime increases crime rates by effectively making a criminal sentence a "badge of dishonour" rather than a deterrent, as it should be.

    Most criminals are not victims of circumstance; they make a rational choice with malicious intent when they break our laws; we cannot allow this to go unpunished.
    Right, except almost all the empirical evidence points exactly the other way. Your stance is logically indefensible on the basis of reducing crime: you can only defend it by choosing to increase suffering.
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    From a quick read of the bill I expect to be voting Aye, unless anybody can convince me that it is indeed too soft.
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    Prisoners need to acknowledge what they've done. However they also need to pay penitence for their deeds.
    And they also need to learn new qualifications, to decrease their risk of recommitting.
    This bill is far too relative right now. I do agree with the educational parts, seeing the successes in Norway. For now, however I will Abstain.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Labour are soft on crime - what a surprise.

    A strong nay - we cannot allow criminals to get off easy.
    Hear, hear.

    If anybody wants to use prison overcrowding as a justification I have an alternative solution: build new jails.
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    This bill is in cessation.
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    This bill has entered division.
 
 
 
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