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    I'm apparently "under investigation" by the BBC (well, TV Licensing), according to their latest letter.

    Never bought a TV license, never watched TV or iPlayer outside my parents' house.

    TESCO don't send me similar letters demanding why I don't shop with them, with language implying severe consequences for non-compliance.

    I wonder how many international students panic and pay the fee. This practice is at best utterly immoral.

    http://www.bbctvlicence.com/index.htm

    What's the most threatening mail you've got from these *****?
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    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    I'm apparently "under investigation" by the BBC (well, TV Licensing), according to their latest letter.
    The basic assumption is that you have and use a television. Not too many households don't.

    If you don't need one, part of me says let them waste their time carrying out their "investigation". Another part of me says that hopefully their "investigation" is just sending out letters as otherwise it is a waste of licence payer's money.

    Check that you actually don't need one. It isn't just for watching television on a good old-fashioned box. These days it can be for computer watching too. If you should have one, then either get one or stop doing whatever it is you are doing that requires you to have one.

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    ****ing goons, don't let them enter your property, they have as much right to enter as a postman
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    (Original post by Nebuchadnezzaṛ)
    ****ing goons, don't let them enter your property, they have as much right to enter as a postman
    My postman doesn't go around threatening people with court dates for not buying stamps.

    What you can do is revoke the implied right of access to your property for BBC/TVL employees. This means they won't (legally) even be able to ring your door. Of course, this also means giving up your personal information to a company that has no business knowing it in the first place.
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    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    My postman doesn't go around threatening people with court dates for not buying stamps.

    What you can do is revoke the implied right of access to your property for BBC/TVL employees. This means they won't (legally) even be able to ring your door. Of course, this also means giving up your personal information to a company that has no business knowing it in the first place.
    Is there any way they could check from the outside? Or is this just a meme

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    (Original post by Pigster)
    The basic assumption is that you have and use a television. Not too many households don't.
    Owning a TV on its own doesn't mean you have to pay a license. Many people own TVs instead of PC monitors, or for console gaming.

    Using a TV to watch or record broadcasts, or stream/download content that was broadcast on TV (within last 30 days) would also (well, except for the power supply loophole).

    If you don't need one, part of me says let them waste their time carrying out their "investigation". Another part of me says that hopefully their "investigation" is just sending out letters as otherwise it is a waste of licence payer's money.
    Yep, I got a good chuckle out of the letter. I'm just concerned about how many people will fall for this kind of threatening language. Not many people know their rights.
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    (Original post by Nebuchadnezzaṛ)
    Is there any way they could check from the outside? Or is this just a meme

    They could film you watching TV from outside your window - but that might be breaking the law on their part (fairly sure there must be laws about companies snooping around residences).

    But you are asking if they can detect whether your TV is receiving broadcasts remotely using complex equipment? lol, they certainly can't. iPlayer and online will be different, obviously.
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    I've heard rumours their vans don't have any technology to detect anything. plus they can't enter your house without permission. there's absolutely nothing worth watching on the bbc anyway. the tv license man came to my house after I declared I don't need one and my brother was using the tv to watch youtube, the man ask ''is there anything you want to tell us''...LOL I told him we're watching youtube and said I'm underaged and my parents aren't home and he left. never came back. these scare tactics will only work on naive people and they need to stop. the more people know how bs their org is, the better cos they're bullies
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    The BBC is a great news outlet and I'm glad they're around. They have to get their funding somehow. I do object to some of their money-collecting methods, but the way I see it, it's like buying things from a charity shop - you know the money is going towards good work.

    That said, my household has (truthfully) claimed to not watch or record live TV on any device so as not to require a TV license.
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    (Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
    The BBC is a great news outlet and I'm glad they're around. They have to get their funding somehow. I do object to some of their money-collecting methods, but the way I see it, it's like buying things from a charity shop - you know the money is going towards good work.

    That said, my household has (truthfully) claimed to not watch or record live TV on any device so as not to require a TV license.
    Some of the tripe the BBC push out and push for makes me utterly turn off them. They can push ads every 5 minutes for all I care they won't be getting my money.

    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    They could film you watching TV from outside your window - but that might be breaking the law on their part (fairly sure there must be laws about companies snooping around residences).

    But you are asking if they can detect whether your TV is receiving broadcasts remotely using complex equipment? lol, they certainly can't. iPlayer and online will be different, obviously.

    I have heard but don't really look in to it that if a TV can receive the BBC signal you have to pay. Also one guy at my uni was talking about how if you have your laptop plugged in to a wall socket and watch iPlayer they can somehow find out but I have no clue how that works.


    Either way they need to piss off. If the BBC could block me from ever seeing them if I don't pay I wish they would. I won't want to fund some of the bullcrap they push out.
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    If you watch TV via Amazon, NowTV, Netflix you do not need it but if you stream LIVE then you do

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    All the good TV shows have gone from BBC but if they do come round then just don't let them come in I think you should research it a little bit more just to be sure
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    the TV licensing bully boys are the dark side of the Beeb. we are encouraged to focus on the smiley friendly presenters & cake baking funsters.... behind them lurk the shaven-headed thugs who terrorise innocent paupers.
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    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    They could film you watching TV from outside your window - but that might be breaking the law on their part (fairly sure there must be laws about companies snooping around residences).

    But you are asking if they can detect whether your TV is receiving broadcasts remotely using complex equipment? lol, they certainly can't. iPlayer and online will be different, obviously.
    That's what tunnelbear is for
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    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    I'm apparently "under investigation" by the BBC (well, TV Licensing), according to their latest letter.

    Never bought a TV license, never watched TV or iPlayer outside my parents' house.

    TESCO don't send me similar letters demanding why I don't shop with them, with language implying severe consequences for non-compliance.

    I wonder how many international students panic and pay the fee. This practice is at best utterly immoral.

    http://www.bbctvlicence.com/index.htm

    What's the most threatening mail you've got from these *****?
    No need to be so dramatic.

    You are on their database as not having a licence

    You can contact hem if you wish to say you dont watch live TV and then they can mark you off and the letters will stop. You can also ignore the letters as well.

    They have a right in law to enforce licensing. Most international students can read English so I expect if they dont have a TV they wont pay and if they do, then they may or take the risk. They arent sheep.
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    when people say "I own a tv but don't watch it" I always have my suspicions!
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    I had an angry letter from them, simply because I didn't inform them that I don't need one... Bloody ridiculous.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    No need to be so dramatic.

    You are on their database as not having a licence

    You can contact hem if you wish to say you dont watch live TV and then they can mark you off and the letters will stop. You can also ignore the letters as well.

    They have a right in law to enforce licensing. Most international students can read English so I expect if they dont have a TV they wont pay and if they do, then they may or take the risk. They arent sheep.
    > dramatic

    The ones being dramatic are them. "Under investigation" my arse.

    > You can contact them if you don't watch live TV

    Yes, but this will only (at best) get them off your back for a short while. Also, it gifts them your personal details, which is none of their business, and makes it easier for them to harass you, should they wish to.

    The letters don't bother me. What bothers me are the people who are vulnerable to their scare tactics.

    How is this different to cold-calling, and rather aggressive cold-calling at that?
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    (Original post by Nebuchadnezzaṛ)
    That's what tunnelbear is for
    > Tunnelbear

    Someone watches LTT

    I have heard bad things about Tunnelbear tbh
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    (Original post by thecube)
    when people say "I own a tv but don't watch it" I always have my suspicions!
    there are hundreds of channels, it's very easy to forget you even have bbc
 
 
 
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