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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    That people are fired so easily is a sign of weak employment rights. Companies are allowed to fire anyone they want for any reason, as the right have argued.

    Not, 'cultural marxism'
    So why do the left wing political establishment and pundits stand up for many people’s employment rights but never employment rights of people fired for PC transgressions?

    Can I have a single example of them standing up for someone in this predicament?
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    Right you claim that it immutable that Carole Thatcher is a terrible person for using the term Gollywog. The term was in common use up till the late 80s or early 90s, in fact it was the signature icon of Robertson’s jam and people would collect Gollywog tokens with a black round fave image and send off for their free Gollywog man. The term was not considered offensive or derogatory. Then obviously one day the PC brigade decided that the term was offensive and called in the PC police to punish anyone who used the term.

    If Carole Thatcher has used the term in 1985 then she is a fine person but if she uses it in the late 90s then she’s a nasty person?

    So if you don’t obey the PC thought police you’re a nasty person?
    If a law changes you can't say "well it was ok before".

    Social norms can change too. She was given the chance to apologize but chose not to. Ergo she used that word for a reason. And that word was always wrong, people just finally got around to acknowledging that.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    So why do the left wing political establishment and pundits stand up for many people’s employment rights but never employment rights of people fired for PC transgressions?

    Can I have a single example of them standing up for someone in this predicament?
    Why shouldn't they for someone being incorrect.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    So why do the left wing political establishment and pundits stand up for many people’s employment rights but never employment rights of people fired for PC transgressions?

    Can I have a single example of them standing up for someone in this predicament?
    Largely because those on the right have sought to weaken everyone else's employment rights and protections so there is a certain sense of 'what comes around goes around' when it comes back to bite them.
    I find it rather funny that you are referring to huge corporations such as Google, as 'left wing'.

    You seem to be conflating the idea of 'PC culture' with 'don't be an *******' culture.

    The latter is fine. If a white person insists on using the n-word, even though they know its connotations, why shouldn't they be sacked? That's not pc culture, that's simply not using words or phrases which have such a dreadful historical context attached to them.

    There seems to be some on the right who think they are being edgy and violating taboos by using the n-word. You're not, you're just being an ass.

    Ben Shapiro who is very right wing makes this point:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eioRmh9xlU4

    Is he marxist?
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    It's not a theory it's fact. And you were the one talking about generic groups being formed and said some have advantages others not. I haven you another such example and asked would you deny it for that too?

    You're talking actual nonsense here, and aren't even internally consistent in your argument.
    No I was staying the thought process of the liberal left. Folks you are going to have to take the trouble to read it carefully and really digest it, in a summary of years of investigation:

    - Formation and measurement of arbitrary groups
    - All group inequality is as a result of oppression and prejudice (not from natural differences)

    - At the same time:
    - Biology and history are prisons which cause inequality and therefore need to be negated (e.g. race is a social construct)
    - Natural / biological differences don’t exist

    - Therefore intervention is needed to equalise these groups
    - The groups are classified as oppressed / oppressor groups
    - From trying to make people equal the same consequences as former Soviet Communism trying to make people equal:
    - loss of objectivity (Rotherham incident), loss of truth (race is a social construct), loss of freedom (arrests for tweets)
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    Not going to tea do your nonsense again, already showed youare inconsistent.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    If a law changes you can't say "well it was ok before".

    Social norms can change too. She was given the chance to apologize but chose not to. Ergo she used that word for a reason. And that word was always wrong, people just finally got around to acknowledging that.
    Well these are the laws of the PC police not he laws of the lands. So the PC language changing police determine morality, who is virtuous and who is not?

    How can a word be always wrong. A word just just a reference like four letters that mean a light. How can it be good or bad? Hollywood used to mean cute Black Afro child. The word didn’t suddenly turn bad, some people decided to develop some kind of sensitivity or reaction to it.

    So if someone does not share their sensitivity then they are a non-virtuous person?
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    Read. Stupid autocorrect.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    Well these are the laws of the PC police not he laws of the lands. So the PC language changing police determine morality, who is virtuous and who is not?

    How can a word be always wrong. A word just just a reference like four letters that mean a light. How can it be good or bad? Hollywood used to mean cute Black Afro child. The word didn’t suddenly turn bad, some people decided to develop some kind of sensitivity or reaction to it.

    So if someone does not share their sensitivity then they are a non-virtuous person?
    No, people did not just suddenly become sensitive. It's only simply become acceptable to call out *******s using derogatory terms. Why do you even have such a problem with this? Why do you so desperately want to keep using this word? Makes no sense.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Why shouldn't they for someone being incorrect.
    That’s just thing. These people weren’t objectively incorrect (like 2 25), they were politically incorrect incorrect, for example women don’t enjoy engineering jobs so much as men on average (factually correct and yet politically incorrect).
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Largely because those on the right have sought to weaken everyone else's employment rights and protections so there is a certain sense of 'what comes around goes around' when it comes back to bite them.
    I find it rather funny that you are referring to huge corporations such as Google, as 'left wing'.

    You seem to be conflating the idea of 'PC culture' with 'don't be an *******' culture.

    The latter is fine. If a white person insists on using the n-word, even though they know its connotations, why shouldn't they be sacked? That's not pc culture, that's simply not using words or phrases which have such a dreadful historical context attached to them.

    There seems to be some on the right who think they are being edgy and violating taboos by using the n-word. You're not, you're just being an ass.

    Ben Shapiro who is very right wing makes this point:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eioRmh9xlU4

    Is he marxist?
    Again you are confirming my theory by saying that we need an ever changing language and then to find transgressors in order to right the “wrongs” of history.

    On the World War II film The Dam Busters about the bouncing bomb unleashed on Germany’s dams. There was a small back dog called ******.


    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Largely because those on the right have sought to weaken everyone else's employment rights and protections so there is a certain sense of 'what comes around goes around' when it comes back to bite them.
    I find it rather funny that you are referring to huge corporations such as Google, as 'left wing'.

    You seem to be conflating the idea of 'PC culture' with 'don't be an *******' culture.

    The latter is fine. If a white person insists on using the n-word, even though they know its connotations, why shouldn't they be sacked? That's not pc culture, that's simply not using words or phrases which have such a dreadful historical context attached to them.

    There seems to be some on the right who think they are being edgy and violating taboos by using the n-word. You're not, you're just being an ass.

    Ben Shapiro who is very right wing makes this point:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eioRmh9xlU4

    Is he marxist?
    Again you are confirming my theory by saying that we need an ever changing language and then to find transgressors in order to right the “wrongs” of history.

    In the Word War 2 film the Dam Busters there was a little black dog called ******. It was not considered an offensive term.

    The BBC are saying that the dogs name has been changed for a remake.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-13727908
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    That’s just thing. These people weren’t objectively incorrect (like 2 25), they were politically incorrect incorrect, for example women don’t enjoy engineering jobs so much as men on average (factually correct and yet politically incorrect).
    And who got fired for saying just that?
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    No, people did not just suddenly become sensitive. It's only simply become acceptable to call out *******s using derogatory terms. Why do you even have such a problem with this? Why do you so desperately want to keep using this word? Makes no sense.
    Have you ever wondered why all of these so called decretory terms are for minority groups? Give me an example of word for common household objects that have turned derogatory except for when there is a minority group involved. All of their words turn from taboo into marginally taboo, or into common usage like ****, so why are only terms for minority groups turning from common use to derogatory?
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    And who got fired for saying just that?
    The google engineer, James Damore effectively.

    Incorrect thinking, innit!
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Largely because those on the right have sought to weaken everyone else's employment rights and protections so there is a certain sense of 'what comes around goes around' when it comes back to bite them.
    I find it rather funny that you are referring to huge corporations such as Google, as 'left wing'.
    Well isn’t that just so dandy and convenient 🙈🙈🙈

    You are admitting that the liberal left have firm positions which they apply selectively based on whether they like someone (or whether they fit a certain racial profile or group as well). And you are proving my point about the unlogic of the liberal left.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    Again you are confirming my theory by saying that we need an ever changing language and then to find transgressors in order to right the “wrongs” of history.

    On the World War II film The Dam Busters about the bouncing bomb unleashed on Germany’s dams. There was a small back dog called ******.




    Again you are confirming my theory by saying that we need an ever changing language and then to find transgressors in order to right the “wrongs” of history.

    In the Word War 2 film the Dam Busters there was a little black dog called ******. It was not considered an offensive term.

    The BBC are saying that the dogs name has been changed for a remake.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-13727908
    Social norms change and things that were tolerated decades ago are not now. Being gay was a crime a few decades ago, that doesn't mean homophobia back then was any more acceptable and justifiable than it is now.

    You really do seem to be lost in a paranoid universe.

    The terms were always racist. It wasn't as if calling a black person the n-word in the 50s and 60s wasn't racist. Of course it was, but it was just tolerated by wider society.

    It's not about righting the wrongs of history, it's about not being an *******. In the same way that not taking the piss out of a kid who's lost his parents isn't 'pc culture', it's 'don't be an *******' culture.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Social norms change and things that were tolerated decades ago are not now. Being gay was a crime a few decades ago, that doesn't mean homophobia back then was any more acceptable and justifiable than it is now.

    You really do seem to be lost in a paranoid universe.

    The terms were always racist. It wasn't as if calling a black person the n-word in the 50s and 60s wasn't racist. Of course it was, but it was just tolerated by wider society.

    It's not about righting the wrongs of history, it's about not being an *******. In the same way that not taking the piss out of a kid who's lost his parents isn't 'pc culture', it's 'don't be an *******' culture.
    There is a country called Niger 🇳🇪. I supposed it may t must be a racist country? I suppose Negro, the Latin word for black must be a racist word.

    So a colour is racist? One professor in the US is now claiming that mathematics is racist.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    Well isn’t that just so dandy and convenient 🙈🙈🙈

    You are admitting that the liberal left have firm positions which they apply selectively based on whether they like someone (or whether they fit a certain racial profile or group as well). And you are proving my point about the unlogic of the liberal left.
    Google, the capitalist giant, are not left wing.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    Have you ever wondered why all of these so called decretory terms are for minority groups? Give me an example of word for common household objects that have turned derogatory except for when there is a minority group involved. All of their words turn from taboo into marginally taboo, or into common usage like ****, so why are only terms for minority groups turning from common use to derogatory?
    Erm, because people like you love to be derogatory against minority groups, and always have been. So no, I have never wondered this because it's obvious af.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    The google engineer, James Damore effectively.

    Incorrect thinking, innit!
    Oh honey, he said so much more than that, which is why I specifically wrote in my post above "just that"...and you fell right into it.

    You are as laughable as predictable.
 
 
 
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