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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    I have been discussing postmodern social theory followed by discussions about lexical syntax of non-PC words?

    Who have I been derogatory against? Who is the victim?
    Then tell me this, why are you so upset that you can't use words anymore that are upsetting others?
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    No I’m discussing the effect of postmodern social theory on language.
    Not at all. My description is much more apt.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Google are not left wing full stop.

    There's no such thing as 'postmodern social marxism' or whatever you call it. It's a concept imagined up and obsessed over by people such as yourself.

    No one on the left cares about any of that. They care about public services, the cost of housing, education etc.
    So why does professor Jordan Peterson, professor of psychology at University of Toronto say that it exists? He is crazy I suppose? Or the scientific American who write about the theory, crazy I suppose?

    Everyone who disagrees with you is crazy.

    Here we go again, the unlogic of the liberal left.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Then tell me this, why are you so upset that you can't use words anymore that are upsetting others?
    Where did I say that I’m upset, I enjoy debating.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    No I’m discussing the effect of postmodern social theory on language.
    No, you're annoyed because you can't use the n word, for some reason.

    Not using words which were predominantly used in a racist context to demonise and degraded those it was aimed at, is hardly 'pc culture'. It's about not being a total *******.

    Such words have always been racist and have always been used in a degrading manner. It's not as if the n word was fine in the 60s, it was racist back then, just no one did anything about it.

    That's not social marxism or whatever you call it. That's simply not being racist.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Not at all. My description is much more apt.
    Well your description suits you better! People who disagree with you are crazy 😜
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    Where did I say that I’m upset, I enjoy debating.
    I laughed so hard.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    So why does professor Jordan Peterson, professor of psychology at University of Toronto say that it exists? He is crazy I suppose? Or the scientific American who write about the theory, crazy I suppose?

    Everyone who disagrees with you is crazy.

    Here we go again, the unlogic of the liberal left.
    I guess those who've written theories on 9/11 being an inside job must be correct too then? Of course not.

    I don't care what he says, nor have I heard of him.

    I'll repeat, the only people obsessed with marxism are those such as yourself.
    No one else goes on about it. No one else experiences it. A few people losing their jobs for using openly racist terms is not an example of 'social marxism'.


    No one else cares. Really.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    No, you're annoyed because you can't use the n word, for some reason.

    Not using words which were predominantly used in a racist context to demonise and degraded those it was aimed at, is hardly 'pc culture'. It's about not being a total *******.

    Such words have always been racist and have always been used in a degrading manner. It's not as if the n word was fine in the 60s, it was racist back then, just no one did anything about it.

    That's not social marxism or whatever you call it. That's simply not being racist.
    So I guess Carole Thatcher must have not held a belief that her group was superior to blacks when saying the word Gollywog before 1990 but she must have had that sentiment when saying it after?

    And I guess the Romans didn’t realise their word Negro was racist?

    And I guess talking about ever changing vocabulary is racist.

    Mathematics is racist according to Prof. Rochelle Gutierrez.

    What if I declare that the sky is racist and get 10 million people to say that and the media and teachers to say it? Does the sky become racist?

    Of course yes because according to Postmodern philosophy Jacques Derrida words and their historical meaning are separate and we need to take a logocentric approach and and stop holding the external reality as fixed and our thoughts as there tools to change the external world ... through words.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    So I guess Carole Thatcher must have not held a belief that her group was superior to blacks when saying the word Gollywog before 1990 but she must have had that sentiment when saying it after?

    And I guess the Romans didn’t realise their word Negro was racist?

    And I guess talking about ever changing vocabulary is racist.

    Mathematics is racist according to Prof. Rochelle Gutierrez.

    What if I declare that the sky is racist and get 10 million people to say that and the media and teachers to say it? Does the sky become racist?

    Of course yes because according to Postmodern philosophy Jacques Derrida words and their historical meaning are separate and we need to take a logocentric approach and and stop holding the external reality as fixed and our thoughts as there tools to change the external world ... through words.
    The term 'negro' is not racist. The n word however was used in a very racist context,

    Carol Thatcher used a racist term and refused to apologise. It was always a racist term. Just because society tolerated it, does not mean it was not racist.

    Society used to tolerate open homophobia. That doesn't mean it wasn't homophobic.


    That's not social Marxism.

    Your essential argument seems to be that because we tolerated racism a few decades ago and don't anymore, that social marxism is taking over.
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    The term 'negro' is not racist. The n word however was used in a very racist context,

    Carol Thatcher used a racist term and refused to apologise. It was always a racist term. Just because society tolerated it, does not mean it was not racist.

    Society used to tolerate open homophobia. That doesn't mean it wasn't homophobic.


    That's not social Marxism.

    Your essential argument seems to be that because we tolerated racism a few decades ago and don't anymore, that social marxism is taking over.
    Right so let’s take this scenario, a footballer uses a taboo word for a minority group. Shock horror it’s front page news, BBC first item on the news, days after the is still reporting that decimal making is going on in committees about what to do lending his immediate suspension.

    Do you think this society is operating in a normal MO with regards to this?
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    Right so let’s take this scenario, a footballer uses a taboo word for a minority group. Shock horror it’s front page news, BBC first item on the news, days after the is still reporting that decimal making is going on in committees about what to do lending his immediate suspension.

    Do you think this society is operating in a normal MO with regards to this?
    I don't think footballers, in the position they are in, should be using racist terms no.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    I don't think footballers, in the position they are in, should be using racist terms no.
    That’s not what I asked - what I asked is do you think the level of obsession society has with this is normal?

    Of course it’s not, socially has in its core some deep rooted conditions that cause it to react with such enormity to such things.
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    That’s not what I asked - what I asked is do you think the level of obsession society has with this is normal?

    Of course it’s not, socially has in its core some deep rooted conditions that cause it to react with such enormity to such things.
    I can assure you that Google are not Marxist in any sense.

    Marxism is and only is a critique of capitalism. 'cultural Marxism' or 'social Marxism' does not exist.

    It's a nothing concept made up and obsessed over by some people on the right.

    The example you refer to is not an example of marxism, it's just sterotypical celebrity culture. A celebrity can barely pass wind these days without it ending up on the front cover of every paper. The public has long been obsessed with celebrities.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    I can assure you that Google are not Marxist in any sense.

    Marxism is and only is a critique of capitalism. 'cultural Marxism' or 'social Marxism' does not exist.

    It's a nothing concept made up and obsessed over by some people on the right.

    The example you refer to is not an example of marxism, it's just sterotypical celebrity culture. A celebrity can barely pass wind these days without it ending up on the front cover of every paper. The public has long been obsessed with celebrities.
    Lol, if Marx was alive today he'd probably view celebs as Capitalism personified.
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    Lol, if Marx was alive today he'd probably view celeb culture as Capitalism personified.
    I have been saying through this thread, I don’t refer to this ideology I’m describing as true Marxism, some people call it post-Marxism.

    The Marxist academic Herbert Marcuse is discussing it here in 1977:

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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    I have been saying through this thread, I don’t refer to this ideology I’m describing as true Marxism, some people call it post-Marxism.

    The Marxist academic Herbert Marcuse is discussing it here in 1977:

    As myself and others have said previously, it's only relevant(and I use that term very loosely) on internet forums. Nobody (bar a few eccentrics) in real life gives a ****.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    As myself and others have said previously, it's only relevant(and I use that term very loosely) on internet forums. Nobody (bar a few eccentrics) in real life gives a ****.
    And if you look back on this thread you well see it’s littered with people responding to my post with certain justifications that fall under this theory like black groups are oppressed and white groups are privileged. The entire political system works to this tune with its new “hate crimes units” going after oppressor groups who slate oppressed groups.

    Yes you are right, no one stands up and declares their belief in postmodern social theory, it’s buried in their thinking, their processes and their subconscious.
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    "Liberal left" and Frankfurt School conspiracy theories... I really need to make a bingo game for this....
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    (Original post by Airplanebee2)
    And if you look back on this thread you well see it’s littered with people responding to my post with certain justifications that fall under this theory like black groups are oppressed and white groups are privileged. The entire political system works to this tune with its new “hate crimes units” going after oppressor groups who slate oppressed groups.

    Yes you are right, no one stands up and declares their belief in postmodern social theory, it’s buried in their thinking, their processes and their subconscious.
    Complete nonsense. This is not what is going on, stop making **** up.
 
 
 
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