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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    We have to hope that Congress wouldn't let him get away with anything that blatant, but if Kim's regime are crazy enough to provoke the US still further, then yeah, I think that's a pretty standup theory.

    Note that Trump has also now lost a Republican majority in the Senate, so his room for anything further is getting distinctly limited.
    As Supreme Commander Mr Trump has his hand on the button.... all he has to do is give the order & goodnight Vienna Pyongyang
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    "the best they can come up with" - ?? :lolwut:

    You do realise that he was the Chairman of Trump's campaign? Do you imagine that he was some minor branch officer of it or something?
    Is there any evidence that Trump knew about any of this?

    Until there is (if there ever is, and if there were so far I think we would already know) so what?

    This is very different from crooked Hillary who personally received tens of millions, to her own foundation, in exchange for a uranium deal from Putin's little underling.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    As Supreme Commander Mr Trump has his hand on the button.... all he has to do is give the order & goodnight Vienna Pyongyang
    Might be difficult politically without Congress, but then, would he care about that if he's on the way out and he has no affiliation worth a damn with the official Republican party.

    I wonder if the generals would carry out his orders, given the inevitable massive loss of life in S. Korea and possibly elsewhere.
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    (Original post by generallee)
    Is there any evidence that Trump knew about any of this?

    Until there is (if there ever is, and if there were so far I think we would already know) so what?

    This is very different from crooked Hillary who personally received tens of millions, to her own foundation, in exchange for a uranium deal from Putin's little underling.
    Your last sentence is utter tripe, try reading a few articles on the subject not sourced from Breitbart.
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    (Original post by generallee)
    Is there any evidence that Trump knew about any of this?

    Until there is (if there ever is, and if there were so far I think we would already know) so what?

    This is very different from crooked Hillary who personally received tens of millions, to her own foundation, in exchange for a uranium deal from Putin's little underling.
    You couldn't sound more biased if you tried, so much for being fair and balanced.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Might be difficult politically without Congress, but then, would he care about that if he's on the way out and he has no affiliation worth a damn with the official Republican party.

    I wonder if the generals would carry out his orders, given the inevitable massive loss of life in S. Korea and possibly elsewhere.
    it is likely that Mr Trump will be removed from office by extra -judicial means before he can push the button with his tiny finger.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Your last sentence is utter tripe, try reading a few articles on the subject not sourced from Breitbart.
    I have.

    It is you who is spouting the utter tripe. Try reading a few articles on the subject not sourced from the Guardian.

    Do you deny the donation to the Clinton foundation while she was Secretary of State, whilst in a position to influence the Uranium deal?

    Do you? Well?

    And what do you think that donation was for exactly?

    Well?
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    For those who are interested in reading the full indictment against Manafort, you can see it here;

    https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

    It's a damning indictment (get it?) of Manafort and his links to oligarchs and politicians in Putin's orbit. Manafort acted as an "unregistered foreign agent" (foreign agents are required by US law to register with the government; Michael Flynn, the Trump National Security Adviser who had to resign due to his lies, has retrospectively registered as a foreign agent recently, as did Manafort).

    Manafort also laundered the proceeds of his dirty political operations, to avoid paying taxes (because taxes are for the "little people", the chumps, I'm sure is how he feels).
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    What about the Clinton dossier and its links to Russia?

    Something that was given 7 minutes air time by CNN...
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    (Original post by generallee)
    Do you deny the donation to the Clinton foundation while she was Secretary of State, whilst in a position to influence the Uranium deal?

    Do you? Well?
    Err, yes. That donation to the Clinton Foundation was made before she was Secretary of State.

    The final decision-makers on that deal were the Committee on Foreign Investment and ultimately President Obama. Every single one of the 16 government departments who were asked for input agreed with the deal. Clinton was merely one of 16.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that this donation made years before the deal was even considered, before Clinton was Secretary of State, resulted in Clinton lobbying in favour of the deal.

    In short, you got jack ****.

    Game, set and match.
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    (Original post by KekNewsNetwork)
    What about the Clinton dossier and its links to Russia?
    What on earth do you mean "links to Russia"? You mean that the highly-respected former MI6 officer investigated and contacted people in Russia to gather information about Trump?

    This "oppo research" was actually funded by Trump's GOP rivals for the nomination long before the DNC got involved. The fact that it was paid for by the Democrats does not mean it's false, politicians do oppo research so they can find real dirt.

    And if this was all a hoax to set Trump up (for which there is no evidence; allegations in the dossier have now been proven), why didn't the release it before the election? You think they somehow knew they were going to lose the election and paid for a fake dossier they could release after they lost the election to discredit Trump? Do you realise how idiotic that sounds?

    The uranium issue, bringing up the funding of the dossier, these are the desperate, flailing acts of a failed president and his gullible supporters.
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    (Original post by AlexanderHam)
    What on earth do you mean "links to Russia"? You mean that the highly-respected former MI6 officer investigated and contacted people in Russia to gather information about Trump?

    This "oppo research" was actually funded by Trump's GOP rivals for the nomination long before the DNC got involved. The fact that it was paid for by the Democrats does not mean it's false, politicians do oppo research so they can find real dirt.

    And if this was all a hoax to set Trump up (for which there is no evidence; allegations in the dossier have now been proven), why didn't the release it before the election? You think they paid for a fake dossier they could release after they lost the election to discredit Trump? Do you realise how idiotic that sounds?

    The uranium issue, bringing up the funding of the dossier, these are the desperate, flailing acts of a failed president and his gullible supporters.

    I know we have to pick sides and scream, but seems Manafort charges have nothing to do with Trump or election, for now.

    Does it really sound that idiotic :lol: ?
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    (Original post by KekNewsNetwork)
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    What "links to Russia"? I await your answers.

    As for sounding idiotic, it is idiotic because, (1) it makes no sense whatsoever, they would have released it before the election, (2) it's not what actually happened. We don't need to speculate about this, we know that it didn't happen that way
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    (Original post by KekNewsNetwork)
    I know we have to pick sides and scream, but seems Manafort charges have nothing to do with Trump or election, for now.

    Does it really sound that idiotic :lol: ?
    Papadopolous charges definitely do on the other hand, something that everyone seems to have missed that is more important than Manafort/Gates.
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    (Original post by AlexanderHam)
    What "links to Russia"? I await your answers
    " The DNC and Clinton campaign were revealed as the “Democratic donors” who paid Fusion GPS for Steele’s research. (Technically, Perkins Coie, the law firm of Marc Elias, an attorney representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, funded the research.)

    [...]


    Why is that relevant? Natalia Veselnitskaya, who was also working for the law firm on the Prevezon case, met with Trump campaign officials at the Trump Tower in June 2016, including Donald Trump Jr., campaign manager Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner, the husband of Ivanka Trump. Donald Trump Jr. agreed to meet with Veselnitskaya after an intermediary promised dirt on Clinton. She arrived with a memo containing talking points that had been previously shared by Yuri Chaika, Russia’s prosecutor general who is known as a master of kompromat.

    What’s controversial: The Trump White House has tried to use the connection between the dossier and Clinton to claim that this shows that rather than Trump colluding with Russia, Clinton colluded with Russia. (The theory appears to be that because Steele was getting information from Russian officials in part with funds provided by the Clinton campaign, the Russians were helping Clinton.) "


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ff99e165e5c6
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    (Original post by YaliaV)
    Trump is like a cockroach in terms of survival, so we'll see what happens.
    Indeed. Trump has been bankrupt five times, but always manages to slime his way out of it (usually by screwing his creditors). Except the last time, when Trump's casino bankruptcy almost sent him to the wall, he wasn't able to get out of it without help.

    And the people who helped him were Russian oligarchs who were siphoning off assets from the recently-collapsed Soviet Union. Trump helped Russian oligarchs loot Russia's state enterprises, property that by rights belonged to the people of Russia and could have made a huge difference to Russia's post-Soviet situation if that wealth had stayed in the country.
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    (Original post by MrDystopia)
    Papadopolous charges definitely do on the other hand, something that everyone seems to have missed that is more important than Manafort/Gates.
    Again, that concerns Papadopoulos, for the time being, not Trump. If evidence comes out that implicates Trump in it, I hope he faces the music.

    Maybe, just maybe, a whole year of trying to find evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia has taken its toll.
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    (Original post by KekNewsNetwork)
    Again, that concerns Papadopoulos, for the time being, not Trump. If evidence comes out that implicates Trump in it, I hope he faces the music.
    If it concerns the Trump campaign it most definitely concerns him. Papadopoulos has been singing to the FBI for a while now so I'm looking forward to the links to come to light!
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    (Original post by MrDystopia)
    If it concerns the Trump campaign it most definitely concerns him. Papadopoulos has been singing to the FBI for a while now so I'm looking forward to the links to come to light!
    Not necessarily.

    You're clearly quite desperate.


    What about the charitable fellows within Clinton's campaign... oh yeah, that's fine, isn't it?
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    (Original post by KekNewsNetwork)
    Not necessarily.

    You're clearly quite desperate.
    Quite the opposite, I'm enjoying the cries of 'but her emails' after a Trump team member admits to lying to the FBI about his on-goings as part of the campaign :lol:

    For sure, definite progress.
 
 
 
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