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    (Original post by the bear)
    we did not give German soldiers free housing in this country; they were sent back to the Fatherland after release from our prison camps.
    I'm not saying we did. There's also a difference between German soldiers that can be sent back to Germany and British people who have gone away. There's nowhere to send them back to.

    I don't see why we wouldn't be making seemingly generous offers to these people returning. We want to know what they know and how they got into whatever it is they've been up to. Locking them up or refusing to let them back in doesn't achieve any of those things.
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    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    More like - you may as well give it a go; if you find it isn't for you, then you can always come back and you will be greeted with open arms.
    Depends on who you take back. Militant with long ties obviously not, but naive new recruits, potentially can be rehabilitated.

    If integrating one back into Britain stopped ten from wanting to leave, would that be worth it?
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    Whilst we can defeat ISIS in Syria and Iraq, what we now face is a much greater hurdle, and that is the ideology of ISIS. This will be a lot more difficult. But there is some propaganda value in having reformed ISIS members who can vocally challenge ISIS and its ideology. Nothing strikes an ideology harder than to have its own members turn on it and criticise it.
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    None of these newspapers are trustworthy sources of information!
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    So long as they get help with why they went and what they did. Like the same that happens with murderes
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    (Original post by Wikia)
    Definitely a lure looool, nobody is this retarded

    ...is that a challenge?
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    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    We put them in POW camps, and used them as forced labour, even for years after the war.

    In 1946 a fifth of all agricultural work in the UK was performed by German prisoners.

    As for the German leadership (who you seem to be referring to), yes we put some in fancy houses and spied on them; but the majority were put on trial and executed, the exceptions being those with useful knowledge to the US.

    Edit: No point arguing with someone who has never heard of the Nuremburg Trials. :facepalm:
    The German prisoners of war were quite happy in POW camps they were treated humanly and even married local women. My grandfather was German prisoner of war who married a local lady His live in the camp was better then it was pre-war Germany.
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    Why is everyone so surprised? The UK funded and supported these terrorists in the first place - they're good friends.
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      (Original post by looloo2134)
      The German prisoners of war were quite happy in POW camps they were treated humanly and even married local women. My grandfather was German prisoner of war who married a local lady His live in the camp was better then it was pre-war Germany.
      Generally, yes. We treated German PoWs the best out of all the allies - which shows the good gentlemanly spirit Britain generally had even towards its enemies (well, if they were white, at least... they treated Africans quite a lot worse. But anyway)

      But the poster I quoted was suggesting something entirely different, a rather bizarre alternate history of his own imagination.
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      Well the UK is screwed. Liberal lefties have pretty much helped destroy not just the UK but Europe.. Hence we have unfortunately seen the right wing parties on the rise. Keep this up and I have a bad feeling that civil war will be a realistic possibility in certain countries in Europe.
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      (Original post by 89cruefan)
      Well the UK is screwed..
      I don’t know why you would say that?

      OK maybe these guys kept Yazidi girls as slaves and raped them on a daily basis for years. Maybe they took gay men up to the top of towers, tied their hands behind their backs and pushed them off. Perhaps they made prisoners kneel before them and beheaded them, slowly and painfully with blunt and rusty knives. Sure, they hate this country and could well be planning to run people over, or scream Allahu Akbar before cutting the throats of anyone in their path.

      But no one’s perfect are they? We must welcome back these past war criminals and future killers into our midst, put them up in comfort at our expense, pay them “Jihadi Seekers Allowance” as they plan to murder us.

      Why would our doing that indicate we are screwed?
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      This pathetic government actually believes these people can be re-integrated.
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      (Original post by the bear)
      we did not give German soldiers free housing in this country; they were sent back to the Fatherland after release from our prison camps.
      To be fair, we did press some to stay and we made them play football until they broke their necks.
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      These people shouldn't be "reintegrated", and I'm ****ing sick of the constant pandering to these arse holes with claims that we have to somehow gently coax them away from extremist Islamism.

      If they have associated with Al-Qaeda, they're a ****ing terrorist and should be in prison. If they are an ISIS fighter, they should be killed.

      Col Richard Kemp, a former Government counter terrorism adviser, last night questioned whether would-be terrorists were driven by deprivation. Opening the policy to people who had gone to fight in Syria would be “obscene”, he said.

      He said: “I think it’s a very much mistaken policy. When you look at the profile of many of the people who have been involved in terrorist attacks in the UK, or travelled overseas, they do not come from deprived backgrounds.

      He went on: “If someone is inclined to be an extremist, you are not going to bribe them into not being a terrorist. It’s not going to change them.”
      The good colonel is right; the idea that poverty and material deprivation is what drives these people to terrorism is a completely discredited theory. If you like at the core membership of Al-Qaeda Prime (the Bin Laden organisation in Afghanistan/Pakistani... i.e. not Al-Nusra or an offshoot like ISIS), you see that many of them are professionals; engineers, architects, businessmen.

      If you look at the people who went to Syria to join ISIS, there was an Australian doctor who went. There were those three young girls. You have people from many walks of life.

      We should not be giving these people licence to jump the council housing queue or to get special government assistance. In fact, we see that many Islamic extremists in this country already are in receipt of substantial government benefits; council houses, child benefit for their eight children, lifetime disability benefits (they claim they have whiplash or a bad back or some **** like that). More benefits is not the answer.

      If they committed crimes they need to be in prison. If they have not, then they should be treated like any other target of the security services.
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      (Original post by wonderuss)
      Why is everyone so surprised? The UK funded and supported these terrorists in the first place
      No, it didn't. That's an idiotic conspiracy from the likes of Alex Jones and David Icke.

      There is not a shred of real evidence to support that claim. People like you, who spread these moronic theories, need to be called out and held accountable for perpetuating gross lies and distortions.
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      (Original post by The Epicurean)
      Whilst we can defeat ISIS in Syria and Iraq, what we now face is a much greater hurdle, and that is the ideology of ISIS. This will be a lot more difficult. But there is some propaganda value in having reformed ISIS members who can vocally challenge ISIS and its ideology. Nothing strikes an ideology harder than to have its own members turn on it and criticise it.
      The UK government actually does have a propaganda programme (I mean that in a neutral, non-judgmental way) which tries to influence and persuade Islamic youth away from jihadism (and its corollary beliefs like conspiracism and disaffection). To the extent that such individuals could be useful, that can be looked at on a case-by-case basis; HMG and the Security Service already have a budget to buy such people.

      But I would reject a large-scale government programme that diverts vital resources from homeless families, from disabled people, to criminals and terrorists who hate this country and may have been involved in attempting to kill British citizens. As an ethical proposition, it is not justifiable and I believe there are some lines that we should not be crossing, even if it means we have to inject more money in the Security Service to keep an eye on these radicals.
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      Haven't you heard? The UK is an open country that licks other country's asses and doesn't actually care about their borders and protecting their own people.
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      This has to be the stupidest policy to come out of even Britain, I mean Britain has had some crazily stupid policies in the past but if real this certainly will take the cake.

      We shall have to look forward to more of the following :-

      1) LONG term benefit scroungers.
      2) More islamization in local areas as well as schools.
      3) Incidences of terrorism.

      Not sure why anyone believes these types of people can be rehabilitated and integrated into our secular or judeo-christian value type society.

      I say its time to use those Predators to send them to their 72 virgins in waiting.
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      (Original post by AlexanderHam)
      No, it didn't. That's an idiotic conspiracy from the likes of Alex Jones and David Icke.

      There is not a shred of real evidence to support that claim. People like you, who spread these moronic theories, need to be called out and held accountable for perpetuating gross lies and distortions.
      As long as the UK is allies with Saudi and the US, it most certainly supports terrorists, you dumb fvck.

      Of course there's not going to be explicit evidence. You really think this is something that would be clearly publicised?
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      (Original post by wonderuss)
      Of course there's not going to be explicit evidence. You really think this is something that would be clearly publicised?
      So you agree there's no actual evidence for it. In which case, there's no basis to believe in it.
     
     
     
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