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    Hi all, I'm a final year medical student, currently deciding between North Central and East London deanery and Manchester for F1.

    I'm not sure which one I'll end up choosing yet, but to avoid making 2 separate threads, if you're a student at Manchester or Barts / UCL, can you give me an idea of what hospitals you rotate in that people enjoy as a student, or what you've experienced / heard from others about F1 posts in these areas?

    Location is pretty important, Ideally I'd like to live close to the hospital, but not far form the city (I know, don't we all). Manchester Central seems to be the best location, but the hospital also looks quite specialist, so I don't know how good it would be for F1. Are the other hospitals e.g. Salford a real effort to get to from the city?

    As for London I'm eyeing up Homerton as it isn't too far from central and isn't such an expensive area to live.

    Sorry to ask, but I just cant see much online in the way of reviews from junior doctors that have been through F1/2 at these places. I don't have friends in these places so I don't really have anyone to ask either.

    Thanks all.
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    UCL is an amazing hospital
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    (Original post by salad_fingers)
    Hi all, I'm a final year medical student, currently deciding between North Central and East London deanery and Manchester for F1.

    I'm not sure which one I'll end up choosing yet, but to avoid making 2 separate threads, if you're a student at Manchester or Barts / UCL, can you give me an idea of what hospitals you rotate in that people enjoy as a student, or what you've experienced / heard from others about F1 posts in these areas?

    Location is pretty important, Ideally I'd like to live close to the hospital, but not far form the city (I know, don't we all). Manchester Central seems to be the best location, but the hospital also looks quite specialist, so I don't know how good it would be for F1. Are the other hospitals e.g. Salford a real effort to get to from the city?

    As for London I'm eyeing up Homerton as it isn't too far from central and isn't such an expensive area to live.

    Sorry to ask, but I just cant see much online in the way of reviews from junior doctors that have been through F1/2 at these places. I don't have friends in these places so I don't really have anyone to ask either.

    Thanks all.
    You can drive from the city centre to Salford Royal in about 20 minutes with normal traffic. Alternatively the Metrolink tram takes about 40 minutes and similar time for the bus too probably. Salford Quays/Media City is a happy medium in between the hospital and yet still close to the city centre. It's a good teaching hospital and yet generally - from my opinion, some of my peers and senior clinicians I've spoke to - has a friendlier atmosphere compared to MRI. As a final year I don't have direct experience as what it's like as an FY1, but they seem content. I have heard (just from one), however, that as Salford Royal is very (not sure of the word; possibly organised/strict...) due to there being lots of dedicated teams for different tasks (i.e. if there's a cannula, then call the cannulation team) that there lies a potential to get lazy with these tasks. Also very big on ANTT at Salford thus why as students we aren't allowed to perform blood cultures; I believe they have these registers for a number of procedures that if you aren't on it you cannot do it). It's the main specialist centre for Neurosurgery/Spinal and Dermatology in Manchester if you have interests in either of those. Doesn't have any vascular/proper cardiology/cath labs if you like that though. Lots of Manchester graduates also like Bolton as a DGH, which has a good reputation for teaching the FY1s well (thus I believe it has a higher FPAS cut-off that other DGHs). It takes approximately 20-25 minutes to drive from Salford to Bolton.

    I'm not familiar with Wythenshawe/UHSM (nor the DGH's towards the South such as Crewe and Stepping Hill) as our year cohort gets split between the three (four including Preston) teaching hospitals for our entire time. I think its generally well liked and viewed similarly to Salford in terms of friendly atmosphere (compared to MRI). Having said this I'm sure there are plenty of MRI students/doctors that enjoy it and actually when I've been there for a couple of months total over my time, I haven't noticed this perception others have told me about.

    Lots of students and doctors (junior and mid-grade) seem to like Didsbury area in South Manchester and then commute from there.
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    (Original post by salad_fingers)
    Hi all, I'm a final year medical student, currently deciding between North Central and East London deanery and Manchester for F1.

    I'm not sure which one I'll end up choosing yet, but to avoid making 2 separate threads, if you're a student at Manchester or Barts / UCL, can you give me an idea of what hospitals you rotate in that people enjoy as a student, or what you've experienced / heard from others about F1 posts in these areas?

    Location is pretty important, Ideally I'd like to live close to the hospital, but not far form the city (I know, don't we all). Manchester Central seems to be the best location, but the hospital also looks quite specialist, so I don't know how good it would be for F1. Are the other hospitals e.g. Salford a real effort to get to from the city?

    As for London I'm eyeing up Homerton as it isn't too far from central and isn't such an expensive area to live.

    Sorry to ask, but I just cant see much online in the way of reviews from junior doctors that have been through F1/2 at these places. I don't have friends in these places so I don't really have anyone to ask either.

    Thanks all.
    I'm currently a student based at the Manchester Royal, have rotated through some of the hospitals in Pennine Acute Trust too as well as Salford.

    FYI - Central Manchester Foundation Trust (encompassing MRI, Trafford etc ) have now merged with University Hospitals South Manchester to become University Manchester Foundation Trust. I don't know if that changes anything for you, but it only happened a matter of weeks ago and thought you should know.

    I have spent lots of time at the MRI and to be really frank, the general opinion I have heard from FY1's is that it is bad and they dislike it. I can't pinpoint the reasons and i'm unsure how much of their opinion is influenced simply by the actual job is pretty bad rather than the place.

    As a student, I think it's a good teaching hospital and there are a lot of students about. I think the UoM sends the largest proportion of it's students to be based at the MRI but I'm not sure how this changes since the merge. A lot of the consultants I've worked with have been fantastic.

    An FY1 I was speaking with whilst on my psych rotation at north had originally applied for the CMFT but is relieved to be at Pennine Acute Trust. She said both were competitive. On a side note I should point out that administration at the Pennine Acute Trust has been truly shocking for both doctors and students.

    We all do our neuro rotations at Salford Royal as it's a specialist centre. As the above poster said, they are very anal about the ANTT and it is a stark contrast from the MRI. It's a shiny new hospital if that sort of thing matters to you. I live very close to the city centre and to save me driving, I took the tram every day. The tram took 40 minutes, but my flat mate always drove and in non-traffic, could be there in 10 minutes, in normal traffic it would take about 20-25, but on really bad traffic days, double that.

    Salford Qays is abundant with brand new blocks of flats that are reasonably priced, and it would take you significantly less time to get there if you were based there.

    If it were me, I think I'd prefer to be at Salford but I might be seeing it from 'the grass is greener' perspective too. You could live in Salford / media city, close enough to the city centre, salford hospital and good transport links for a very reasonable price.
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    Thanks guys, appreciate the info. Anyone shed some light on London?
 
 
 
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