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    Oxford and Cambridge give you one big advantage over others: A lot of rich and powerful people send their kids there and they will hire their kids to work at their firms.

    By going to Oxford or Cambridge, you have the advantage of making friends with them. Having rich and powerful friends will get you good jobs. If you do not make rich and powerful friends going to those two universities, then you still have a great education and have the advantage of a good name - Which can make a difference between two otherwise qualified candidates.

    However, on the whole it certainly isn't the be-all and end-all.
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    (Original post by Notorious_B.I.G.)
    My love to the family.
    Apologies if you think that I called you a "kid" in an insulting way. It is my way of speaking.
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    Hold on, so there's no recent RG grads at Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1?

    17 recent grads. 50% are RG (including Cambridge).

    They employ good people, not just grads of "newer unis".

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    I'm talking about all the F1 teams - they target the newer unis so there may be some RG but in a recent year they took 20 from just one of the non-RG unis.
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    This is idiotic....

    What if you go to a university (Non RG) that has very close links with industry, offering a placement year?
    What if you do a placement year?
    I guess its a waste of time and money then too?

    IMO some non-stem subjects such as dance, art, archaeology, american studies... are a waste of money.
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    (Original post by Spratty)
    This is idiotic....

    What if you go to a university that has very close links with industry, offering a placement year?
    What if you do a placement year?
    I guess its a waste of time and money then too?

    IMO non-stem subjects (not all) such as dance, art, etc. are a waste of money.
    You started so well...
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    You started so well...
    What was wrong?
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    (Original post by Spratty)
    What was wrong?
    I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader.
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    (Original post by Spratty)
    This is idiotic....

    What if you go to a university (Non RG) that has very close links with industry, offering a placement year?
    What if you do a placement year?
    I guess its a waste of time and money then too?

    IMO some non-stem subjects such as dance, art, archaeology, american studies... are a waste of money.
    Those who work in the arts or in archaeology would disagree with you and would say their need for grads is as relevant as a someone who needed a STEM grad.
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    (Original post by J-SP)
    Those who work in the arts or in archaeology would disagree with you and would say their need for grads is as relevant as a someone who needed a STEM grad.
    Statistically speaking there isn't enough of a demand for art/archaeology graduates compared to STEM graduates. Obviously you're going to defend the degree you pick...
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    (Original post by Spratty)
    Statistically speaking there isn't enough of a demand for art/archaeology graduates compared to STEM graduates. Obviously you're going to defend the degree you pick...
    I did a STEM subject.

    Most graduate jobs don’t require a specific degree subject, so it isn’t really important what subject you study anyway.

    Degree doesn’t always equate to career.

    But ironically for something like Music or Archaeology it would more. But their talent pool is smaller than you think where large proportions of graduates who studied that degree will go into a career not related to their degree. Same could be said of STEM graduates - exception tends to be the medical professions.
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    (Original post by Spratty)
    Statistically speaking there isn't enough of a demand for art/archaeology graduates compared to STEM graduates. Obviously you're going to defend the degree you pick...
    https://historicengland.org.uk/whats...archaeologists

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    Universities specialise in different subjects.

    Comparing universities as a whole is utterly meaningless.
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    (Original post by ∆us)
    The university you go to definitely does not affect your employment chances for medicine. Pretty much everyone who seeks employment is hired by the NHS and all courses are monitored by the GMC which set most of the exams so there isn't as much room for variance as in other courses. You are just talking out of your arse here mate.
    The GMC doesn't set any exams.

    There is one national exam currently, but it is separate to the uni courses and there are no consequences for failing. They are bringing in a national finals exam but not yet.
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    RG or not doesn't matter. Coming from somebody in RG.
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    I am getting tired of having to defend myself here. I would say it again, I DO NOT study at the University of Manchester.

    The Big 8 idea, if you read my previous posts accurately, was to rival the US Ivy League.

    I don't care which universities come out to be the top 8 universities in the UK. However, the most accurate picture that can be used are the world rankings such as QS and THE.

    Both rankings consistently put the 8 universities mentioned as the best 8 universities in the UK. For diversity purposes, here is the 2018 list.

    https://www.topuniversities.com/univ...-rankings/2018

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    If you go to the link and filter for Europe, you will still see the 8 universities mentioned as being the top 8 in the UK. Local ranking tables paint a different picture and have not been consistent year-on-year.

    I think it is stupid to argue that UCL does not compare to the Ivy League, there are 8 universities including Cornell and Brown, UCL is clearly better and ranked higher than both on international rankings.

    Like I have written, if it is Big 5, 6 or 7, it does not matter. It was just a group that can truly rival the Ivy League in the US. Obviously, universities that may be subjectively better may not be on the list such as Stanford, MIT, Berkeley and Caltech in the US.

    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Hi everyone,

    I don’t mean to offend anyone, but I have a question.

    Are there still some halls considered to be “posh” i.e. mostly dominated by privately education guys and girls studying in Manchester. I have read that some Halls such as St. Anselm, St. Gabriel and Hulme Hall were considered to be posh; but these are old articles (circa 10 years ago).

    Please don’t get me wrong, I am not against private school people in anyway. I just want to know.

    Cheers.
    Yeah, you were saying?

    Rankings are complete rubbish. Manchester does not even compare with Ivy league, only oxbridge/imperial really does, then LSE then UCL. That's it.
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    (Original post by nashh606)
    Yeah, you were saying?

    Rankings are complete rubbish. Manchester does not even compare with Ivy league, only oxbridge/imperial really does, then LSE then UCL. That's it.
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Ok
    You've been baited as a liar. You go manchester and you're desperate to compare yourself to ivy league.

    [Mod edit - keep it friendly please.]
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    (Original post by nashh606)
    You've been baited as a liar. You go manchester and you're desperate to compare yourself to ivy league.

    Stay in your ****ing lane idiot.
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    (Original post by nashh606)
    You've been baited as a liar. You go manchester and you're desperate to compare yourself to ivy league.
    We've drawn a line under this distraction in this thread. Please don't continue it.
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    We've drawn a line under this distraction in this thread. Please don't continue it.
    Don't you think there's a problem with a user continuously repeating this idea of a non existent top 8 unis that can compare to ivy league? It's very misleading and poor advice, especially at a time when people are applying to unis
 
 
 
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