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    (Original post by Phil_mitchell)
    People are assuming this is down to the julia thing but surely its not as that would be very silly. I think theres somethings darker he's hiding that he wants to be kept under wraps. Thoughts?..
    The puzzling thing is that he's posing as having ethics.

    Yet he is a fantastic public liar who normally has no scruples about publicly lying about important stuff that he knows full well is a lie.

    So for example in the recent past he has lied about civilian casualties in Iraq and Syria, claiming there were none resulting from RAF raids. He has also falsely claimed there are no UK personnel working with Saudi Arabia planning their massive bombardments of helpless civilians in Yemen, another easily proven lie.

    Before that, he made false and easily disprovable claims about Ed Miliband's father in the election campaign and he lied repeatedly about the Labour position on nuclear weapons.

    He really is not a moral person, not even remotely. All the more puzzling that the Prime Minister, who poses as a good Christian Conservative, found no fault with him being a Secretary of State before all this.
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    Putin must be rubbing his hands with glee... all of his plans to destabilize the free world are coming to fruition.
    Fallon was a cornerstone of the free world? :lol:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    The puzzling thing is that he's posing as having ethics.

    Yet he is a fantastic public liar who normally has no scruples about publicly lying about important stuff that he knows full well is a lie.

    So for example in the recent past he has lied about civilian casualties in Iraq and Syria, claiming there were none resulting from RAF raids. He has also falsely claimed there are no UK personnel working with Saudi Arabia planning their massive bombardments of helpless civilians in Yemen, another easily proven lie.

    Before that, he made false and easily disprovable claims about Ed Miliband's father in the election campaign and he lied repeatedly about the Labour position on nuclear weapons.

    He really is not a moral person, not even remotely. All the more puzzling that the Prime Minister, who poses as a good Christian Conservative, found no fault with him being a Secretary of State before all this.
    You clearly don't like him. But none of this is relevant to the issue under discussion.

    Perhaps you could have a go at answering the questions I posed in post 19? Forget Fallon; I'm not interested in individual cases, or the truth of the allegations, just the principles involved.
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    (Original post by Captain Haddock)
    Don't be absurd, the optics of this are terrible for May. There's more dirt to come. He's listed on the leaked dossier for his drunkeness, 'odd sexual penchants' and sexual relations with MP Mike Freer.
    So he's been sacked because he gets drunk and has homosexual tendencies, not to open up a position for Williamson who is unusual clean, another one of May's stooges, and likely the next PM?

    Damian Green, who is first Secretary of State let us remember, also has some serious allegations against his name, why has he not "resigned" too?
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    We are in the age of stupid.

    We've got Labour MPs who have gone around punching people and beating them up - not a word said.

    Tory once touched someone on the knee, or another one who (shock horror) got his long term girlfriend pregnant - it's sleaze. Vile. Disgusting. Resign.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Fallon was a cornerstone of the free world? :lol:
    No but as part of a western government, he is indeed part of the "cornerstone of the free world".
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    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    No but as part of a western government, he is indeed part of the "cornerstone of the free world".
    Until the next two-faced Tory who replaces him.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    He has resigned as Defense Sec (still a Tory MP though so no by-election or anything).

    Interestingly it also emerged that Crabb was going to re-appointed when May became PM but he could not guarantee to the whips that there would be no further dirt.
    It's looking increasingly like House of Cards over at Tory HQ - the scheming Chief Whip, Gavin Williamson is bravely stepping into the breach.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

    Of course, as Chief Whip, he would have had nothing whatever to do with forcing the ghastly Fallon to step down. :nah:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Fallon was a cornerstone of the free world? :lol:
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    (Original post by Trinculo)
    We are in the age of stupid.

    We've got Labour MPs who have gone around punching people and beating them up - not a word said.

    Tory once touched someone on the knee, or another one who (shock horror) got his long term girlfriend pregnant - it's sleaze. Vile. Disgusting. Resign.
    what labour mp is going around punching people?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So he's been sacked because he gets drunk and has homosexual tendencies, not to open up a position for Williamson who is unusual clean, another one of May's stooges, and likely the next PM?

    Damian Green, who is first Secretary of State let us remember, also has some serious allegations against his name, why has he not "resigned" too?
    If May wanted to sack Fallon she could have done it at the next reshuffle, which was rumoured to be coming soon anyway, and avoid the bad press. This scandal is only just beginning, and we know for sure there's more to come on Fallon. This is him ducking out of the spotlight before it drops.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    It's looking increasingly like House of Cards over at Tory HQ - the scheming Chief Whip, Gavin Williamson is bravely stepping into the breach.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

    Of course, as Chief Whip, he would have had nothing whatever to do with forcing the ghastly Fallon to step down. :nah:
    As much as i don't think he should have resigned (though it's clear there's worse to come and he's jumped) it's not an entirely a bad thing if it allows May to clean house now, bringing in loyalists and promoting more notable members. Indeed Esther McVey is back as Chief Whip now.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    As much as i don't think he should have resigned (though it's clear there's worse to come and he's jumped) it's not an entirely a bad thing if it allows May to clean house now, bringing in loyalists and promoting more notable members. Indeed Esther McVey is back as Chief Whip now.
    Perish the thought that No !0 would use this sex scandal as an excuse to spring clean out the hardline Brexiteers. It's almost unthinkable that they could be that devious. :teehee:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Perish the thought that No !0 would use this sex scandal as an excuse to spring clean out the hardline Brexiteers. It's almost unthinkable that they could be that devious. :teehee:
    Why don't you quit the party political bile and address the subject of the thread? Perhaps you could look at my post 19 questions?
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    (Original post by Captain Haddock)
    If May wanted to sack Fallon she could have done it at the next reshuffle, which was rumoured to be coming soon anyway, and avoid the bad press. This scandal is only just beginning, and we know for sure there's more to come on Fallon. This is him ducking out of the spotlight before it drops.
    We don't know that there is more to come on Fallon though, you are seeing things put against his name and assuming they must be true without evidence and ducking out of the spotlight won't save him IF it is true because he was still one of the great survivors of the Tory party in recent years serving under 4 PMs and having acted as deputy chairman for a few years, but even if he was in this year's intake and only became a cabinet minister last week he would still be in the spotlight IF the other speculation proves true because of the timing of his departure.

    Now answer me this: is it the business of the state or press what consenting adults do in the bedroom if it is all legal?

    As for the proposed reshuffle, really if it were going to happen it would have been during the recess, or if there were any plans it would be being done now, personally I doubt there will be one this year, certainly not any time soon with the budget coming unless there are a lot of spaces to fill due to legitimate allegations against a number of cabinet ministers.
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    It is worth considering what would happen if a female journalist had put her hand on a male MP's knee, and the male MP said to her, "If you do that again, I'll punch you in the face".

    The media would, in that case, blame the male MP for threatening a woman with violence, and he would be forced to resign.
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    Yes, he has had no problems standing up
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    The puzzling thing is that he's posing as having ethics.

    Yet he is a fantastic public liar who normally has no scruples about publicly lying about important stuff that he knows full well is a lie.

    So for example in the recent past he has lied about civilian casualties in Iraq and Syria, claiming there were none resulting from RAF raids. He has also falsely claimed there are no UK personnel working with Saudi Arabia planning their massive bombardments of helpless civilians in Yemen, another easily proven lie.

    Before that, he made false and easily disprovable claims about Ed Miliband's father in the election campaign and he lied repeatedly about the Labour position on nuclear weapons.

    He really is not a moral person, not even remotely. All the more puzzling that the Prime Minister, who poses as a good Christian Conservative, found no fault with him being a Secretary of State before all this.
    Yes, he had no problem standing up & defending nations that bomb the crap out of kids yet he has had a long history of being involved with the pre primary school nursery sector. He has had multiple directorships. That, to me, is an odd contradiction.
 
 
 
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