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    Hi, I'm browsing the UCAS teacher training search and deciding where to go.

    There is one school that offers SCITT and Schools Direct (unsalaried).

    They have different provider codes, and the only other difference I see is that the Schools Direct one says "accredited by LWA *name of school*" while the SCITT doesn't show any accreditation info. But they're both listed under the name of the school.

    Can someone tell me if there is any difference at all between SCITT and Schools Direct? Are they both accredited by the school? Why are the provider codes and course codes different? Is there any difference in course content?

    I did email the head of ITT at the school but no reply.

    Thanks
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    There is a subtle but rather significant difference. The three main routes are University led (often called PGCE), School Direct and SCHITT (School led ITT). I did Schools Direct and my school did all three. In university led ITT, the university will arrange your placements. School Direct is more or less the same as University led except you apply directly to the school. The advantage for the candidate is that you choose your main placement school and the advantage to the school is that they can vet their candidates so as to reduce chances of drop outs. SCHITT is detached from a university and the school is solely responsible for assessing trainee teachers. My school offered a PGCE with the university but this was a general qualification and different to my PCGE which was specialised for my subject. Personally, I think I got the best deal because as a school direct candidate I did not enter the lottery of school placements. I knew where I was going to train. I was part of my university cohort but also the SCHITT cohort and benefited from specific training by my school which included a mental health course and voice coaching - something the uni lot didn't get.

    By all means apply for SD or SCHITT but make sure you get the school to sell themselves to you. Why should you train with them?
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    There is a subtle but rather significant difference. The three main routes are University led (often called PGCE), School Direct and SCHITT (School led ITT). I did Schools Direct and my school did all three. In university led ITT, the university will arrange your placements. School Direct is more or less the same as University led except you apply directly to the school. The advantage for the candidate is that you choose your main placement school and the advantage to the school is that they can vet their candidates so as to reduce chances of drop outs. SCHITT is detached from a university and the school is solely responsible for assessing trainee teachers. My school offered a PGCE with the university but this was a general qualification and different to my PCGE which was specialised for my subject. Personally, I think I got the best deal because as a school direct candidate I did not enter the lottery of school placements. I knew where I was going to train. I was part of my university cohort but also the SCHITT cohort and benefited from specific training by my school which included a mental health course and voice coaching - something the uni lot didn't get.

    By all means apply for SD or SCHITT but make sure you get the school to sell themselves to you. Why should you train with them?
    Thanks so much for this. So just to clarify, Schools Direct is essentially the same as the University-led route in course structure and content, except you get to choose the placement school. And SCITT is where you're in the school from day 1 and doing all your assessments internally?
    I thought that Schools Direct meant being in a school from day 1 which was why I was avoiding it. So did you attend lectures weekly at the same time as students doing the University-led route and go on placements at the same times i.e did you have the same weekly/yearly timetable as them?
    Also, do you know if those on the university-led route can choose the schools themselves or if its a fixed list?

    I was literally just about to send off my reference requests, so I'm glad you posted this. I think I'm stuck between the university-led route and Schools Direct now. My issue is that I want to stay at my university for my PGCE, but their Schools Direct partner schools are mostly Catholic and about an hour commute from me.
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    (Original post by Petulia)
    Thanks so much for this. So just to clarify, Schools Direct is essentially the same as the University-led route in course structure and content, except you get to choose the placement school. And SCITT is where you're in the school from day 1 and doing all your assessments internally?
    I thought that Schools Direct meant being in a school from day 1 which was why I was avoiding it. So did you attend lectures weekly at the same time as students doing the University-led route and go on placements at the same times i.e did you have the same weekly/yearly timetable as them?
    Also, do you know if those on the university-led route can choose the schools themselves or if its a fixed list?

    I was literally just about to send off my reference requests, so I'm glad you posted this. I think I'm stuck between the university-led route and Schools Direct now. My issue is that I want to stay at my university for my PGCE, but their Schools Direct partner schools are mostly Catholic and about an hour commute from me.
    I imagine things change from school to school and uni to uni, but yes, essentially my course was the same as the university route. But don't get me wrong. No route is completely university based. Most of your training is in schools with the odd week here and there for tutorials and lectures. But be under no uncertain terms - PGCE is a practical school based thing, not an academic lecture and study based thing.

    As for where you apply. If you apply to a university, they will place you and you will have no say over this. At my university an acceptable commute was up to 90 minutes so be aware!
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    I imagine things change from school to school and uni to uni, but yes, essentially my course was the same as the university route. But don't get me wrong. No route is completely university based. Most of your training is in schools with the odd week here and there for tutorials and lectures. But be under no uncertain terms - PGCE is a practical school based thing, not an academic lecture and study based thing.

    As for where you apply. If you apply to a university, they will place you and you will have no say over this. At my university an acceptable commute was up to 90 minutes so be aware!
    Did you get travel expenses for reaching placements? I imagine a 90 minute commute, whatever the mode of transport, would quickly become very expensive. I'm already dreading the costs of travelling to interviews for teacher training and I hadn't even considered the potential cost of travel each day for getting to schools.
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    (Original post by doctorwhofan98)
    Did you get travel expenses for reaching placements? I imagine a 90 minute commute, whatever the mode of transport, would quickly become very expensive. I'm already dreading the costs of travelling to interviews for teacher training and I hadn't even considered the potential cost of travel each day for getting to schools.
    Alas no. But I did get a very nice bursary + student finance plus childcare grant. But to be fair, this is something you need to consider.
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Alas no. But I did get a very nice bursary + student finance plus childcare grant. But to be fair, this is something you need to consider.
    Thanks, that's very useful to know! Unfortunately they just this year scrapped the bursary for primary so I'll need to be reliant on a loan and hope for commutes that aren't ridiculous.
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    I am going to be withdrawing from my school direct unsalaried placement very soon and I wanted to know if I could just contact my training provider and leave immediately or am I obliged to work a notice period?

    any help will be great

    thanks
 
 
 
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