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If you're ethnically English/British, do you consider yourself European?
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I personally have a few thoughts about this:
1. As our law, culture and history are explicably linked, then we are Europeans. Don't forget the crowds that say 'Well we're white so yeah'.
2. Britain is not connected to the European landmass, and we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries such as the U.S. and Australia while we have essentially been in simultaneous constant war with continental Europeans (France hundred years war, WW2 etc).
1. As our law, culture and history are explicably linked, then we are Europeans. Don't forget the crowds that say 'Well we're white so yeah'.
2. Britain is not connected to the European landmass, and we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries such as the U.S. and Australia while we have essentially been in simultaneous constant war with continental Europeans (France hundred years war, WW2 etc).
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Britain is (currently) part of Europe so you're European whether you like it or not.
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(Original post by Student-95)
Britain is (currently) part of Europe so you're European whether you like it or not.
Britain is (currently) part of Europe so you're European whether you like it or not.
2. I'm not anti-European by any stretch of the imagination.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
1. What do you mean by 'currently part of Europe'
2. I'm not anti-European by any stretch of the imagination.
1. What do you mean by 'currently part of Europe'
2. I'm not anti-European by any stretch of the imagination.
2. I didn't say or imply you were.
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" Britain is not connected to the European landmass" Britain is still part f the continent of Eupore and every component of what you'd call ethnic British i.e Saxons, Celts, Normans, Jutes, Nords, pre-Celtic settlers etc comes from the European landmass anyway.
"we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries" They are countries we created lmao
"we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries" They are countries we created lmao
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(Original post by Student-95)
1. Europe is a continent. Britain is in said continent.
2. I didn't say or imply you were.
1. Europe is a continent. Britain is in said continent.
2. I didn't say or imply you were.
I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
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(Original post by mdnte)
" Britain is not connected to the European landmass" Britain is still part f the continent of Eupore and every component of what you'd call ethnic British i.e Saxons, Celts, Normans, Jutes, Nords, pre-Celtic settlers etc comes from the European landmass anyway.
"we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries" They are countries we created lmao
" Britain is not connected to the European landmass" Britain is still part f the continent of Eupore and every component of what you'd call ethnic British i.e Saxons, Celts, Normans, Jutes, Nords, pre-Celtic settlers etc comes from the European landmass anyway.
"we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries" They are countries we created lmao
Still my opinion, not trying to persuade or anything.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
It's not the same at all. Parts of Iceland are in Europe and parts are in NA so there's a bit of ambiguity there but since most of it is in Europe it's usually considered to be part of Europe. All of Britain is in Europe so it's not like Iceland at all.
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(Original post by Student-95)
Based on what?
It's not the same at all. Parts of Iceland are in Europe and parts are in NA so there's a bit of ambiguity there but since most of it is in Europe it's usually considered to be part of Europe. All of Britain is in Europe so it's not like Iceland at all.
Based on what?
It's not the same at all. Parts of Iceland are in Europe and parts are in NA so there's a bit of ambiguity there but since most of it is in Europe it's usually considered to be part of Europe. All of Britain is in Europe so it's not like Iceland at all.
Would you consider Australians European or Oceanian? Same oddness.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
Yes, I consider myself European.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
The European continent is considered as the boundaries of the Urals, Greece, Spain and the north of Sweden. If Britain is not apart of this landmass, then how is it considered European? What you're talking about is cultural affinity based on racial lines which I don't agree with.
Would you consider Australians European or Oceanian? Same oddness.
The European continent is considered as the boundaries of the Urals, Greece, Spain and the north of Sweden. If Britain is not apart of this landmass, then how is it considered European? What you're talking about is cultural affinity based on racial lines which I don't agree with.
Would you consider Australians European or Oceanian? Same oddness.
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(Original post by Student-95)
No, that's 'mainland Europe'. The western boundary of Europe is the Atlantic.
No, that's 'mainland Europe'. The western boundary of Europe is the Atlantic.
If not, then Geography is the only variable you consider. As the only geography of the European landmass is considered to end at the channel, then Britain can't be considered European.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
So white people who are born in North America are not considered Europeans, but just 'American'? What about white Mexicans that can trace their lineage to Spain? Are they not European?
If not, then Geography is the only variable you consider. As the only geography of the European landmass is considered to end at the channel, then Britain can't be considered European.
So white people who are born in North America are not considered Europeans, but just 'American'? What about white Mexicans that can trace their lineage to Spain? Are they not European?
If not, then Geography is the only variable you consider. As the only geography of the European landmass is considered to end at the channel, then Britain can't be considered European.
If they are considering themselves mexican, and Mexico is part of north America, then they are also north American.
If you consider yourself British, then since Britain is part of Europe, you're also European.
Again, that is 'mainland Europe'. The western border of Europe is the Atlantic and the UK is inside it.
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(Original post by Student-95)
What 'white people'? If you consider yourself American (US), then since America is part of the continent of North America, you must also consider yourself north American.
If they are considering themselves mexican, and Mexico is part of north America, then they are also north American.
If you consider yourself British, then since Britain is part of Europe, you're also European.
Again, that is 'mainland Europe'. The western border of Europe is the Atlantic and the UK is inside it.
What 'white people'? If you consider yourself American (US), then since America is part of the continent of North America, you must also consider yourself north American.
If they are considering themselves mexican, and Mexico is part of north America, then they are also north American.
If you consider yourself British, then since Britain is part of Europe, you're also European.
Again, that is 'mainland Europe'. The western border of Europe is the Atlantic and the UK is inside it.
considering your logic where does this area end? I don't get it
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(Original post by lionheart27)
So Europe is the European landmass and 'a bit into the atlantic' .. gotcha...
considering your logic where does this area end? I don't get it
So Europe is the European landmass and 'a bit into the atlantic' .. gotcha...
considering your logic where does this area end? I don't get it
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