If you're ethnically English/British, do you consider yourself European?

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I personally have a few thoughts about this:

1. As our law, culture and history are explicably linked, then we are Europeans. Don't forget the crowds that say 'Well we're white so yeah'.

2. Britain is not connected to the European landmass, and we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries such as the U.S. and Australia while we have essentially been in simultaneous constant war with continental Europeans (France hundred years war, WW2 etc).
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I am ethnically British, but Welsh and consider myself a European.
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Britain is (currently) part of Europe so you're European whether you like it or not.
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Britain is (currently) part of Europe so you're European whether you like it or not.
1. What do you mean by 'currently part of Europe'

2. I'm not anti-European by any stretch of the imagination.
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1. What do you mean by 'currently part of Europe'

2. I'm not anti-European by any stretch of the imagination.
1. Europe is a continent. Britain is in said continent.

2. I didn't say or imply you were.
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Yes I do. I don't want us to be the 51st US state.
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No
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" Britain is not connected to the European landmass" Britain is still part f the continent of Eupore and every component of what you'd call ethnic British i.e Saxons, Celts, Normans, Jutes, Nords, pre-Celtic settlers etc comes from the European landmass anyway.

"we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries" They are countries we created lmao
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(Original post by Student-95)
1. Europe is a continent. Britain is in said continent.

2. I didn't say or imply you were.

I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
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Honestly no, I think it's maybe because we're off the continent?
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(Original post by mdnte)
" Britain is not connected to the European landmass" Britain is still part f the continent of Eupore and every component of what you'd call ethnic British i.e Saxons, Celts, Normans, Jutes, Nords, pre-Celtic settlers etc comes from the European landmass anyway.

"we have more cultural affinity to far abroad Anglophone countries" They are countries we created lmao
If China had a foreign protectorate situated in the English Channel but had extensive European cultural cohesion, would you consider the Chinese that dwelt within it European? No. Same with Britian and other Anglo countries.

Still my opinion, not trying to persuade or anything.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
Based on what?

It's not the same at all. Parts of Iceland are in Europe and parts are in NA so there's a bit of ambiguity there but since most of it is in Europe it's usually considered to be part of Europe. All of Britain is in Europe so it's not like Iceland at all.
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Based on what?

It's not the same at all. Parts of Iceland are in Europe and parts are in NA so there's a bit of ambiguity there but since most of it is in Europe it's usually considered to be part of Europe. All of Britain is in Europe so it's not like Iceland at all.
The European continent is considered as the boundaries of the Urals, Greece, Spain and the north of Sweden. If Britain is not apart of this landmass, then how is it considered European? What you're talking about is cultural affinity based on racial lines which I don't agree with.

Would you consider Australians European or Oceanian? Same oddness.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
I would argue that Britain is not apart of Europe. That's like saying Iceland is apart of Europe; it isn't - geographically speaking - which is what is usually implied regarding continental land boundaries.
Britain is a part of Europe. To argue it isn't is pretty pointless considering it is a geographical statement of fact, no matter what our membership status within the European Union or any other social or political reasons. The British Isles are in Europe!

Yes, I consider myself European.
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(Original post by lionheart27)
The European continent is considered as the boundaries of the Urals, Greece, Spain and the north of Sweden. If Britain is not apart of this landmass, then how is it considered European? What you're talking about is cultural affinity based on racial lines which I don't agree with.

Would you consider Australians European or Oceanian? Same oddness.
No, that's 'mainland Europe'. The western boundary of Europe is the Atlantic.
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No, that's 'mainland Europe'. The western boundary of Europe is the Atlantic.
So white people who are born in North America are not considered Europeans, but just 'American'? What about white Mexicans that can trace their lineage to Spain? Are they not European?

If not, then Geography is the only variable you consider. As the only geography of the European landmass is considered to end at the channel, then Britain can't be considered European.
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So white people who are born in North America are not considered Europeans, but just 'American'? What about white Mexicans that can trace their lineage to Spain? Are they not European?

If not, then Geography is the only variable you consider. As the only geography of the European landmass is considered to end at the channel, then Britain can't be considered European.
What 'white people'? If you consider yourself American (US), then since America is part of the continent of North America, you must also consider yourself north American.
If they are considering themselves mexican, and Mexico is part of north America, then they are also north American.
If you consider yourself British, then since Britain is part of Europe, you're also European.

Again, that is 'mainland Europe'. The western border of Europe is the Atlantic and the UK is inside it.
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What 'white people'? If you consider yourself American (US), then since America is part of the continent of North America, you must also consider yourself north American.
If they are considering themselves mexican, and Mexico is part of north America, then they are also north American.
If you consider yourself British, then since Britain is part of Europe, you're also European.

Again, that is 'mainland Europe'. The western border of Europe is the Atlantic and the UK is inside it.
So Europe is the European landmass and 'a bit into the atlantic' .. gotcha...

considering your logic where does this area end? I don't get it
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(Original post by lionheart27)
So Europe is the European landmass and 'a bit into the atlantic' .. gotcha...

considering your logic where does this area end? I don't get it
What don't you get? I said multiple times where the western border is. That's where it ends on the western side.
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European is the only thing I consider myself.
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