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    (Original post by Fighter365)
    People like you make me cringe
    why?
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    why?
    Because you said you would only want your children socialising with rich children which is ridiculous, just so they can gain good contacts... You go to school to get good grades and enjoy life with your friends not to gain contacts (in the way that you mean)
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    (Original post by Fighter365)
    Because you said you would only want your children socialising with rich children which is ridiculous, just so they can gain good contacts... You go to school to get good grades and enjoy life with your friends not to gain contacts (in the way that you mean)
    How old are you?

    If you are still in school or university - it may not have hit you yet.. but once you get into the working world, especially within some of the more competitive fields, who you know is everything. Grades are just an extra at the top levels. Take someone like david cameron... to get his first job after university he had a written recomendation from within the royal family. Nothing matters after that..

    People are very valuable, and good relationships can help you for a life-time. I know its not a popular thing to say, but its an honest one for many parents. We want our children, or future children to have the best chances, and statistically the best chances are there if they mingle in the best circles and create friends of the same or a higher level within society then themselves.
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    I personally feel that going to private school is only beneficial if you are going to a Public one or one on par with those that pay around £20,000+ per year. Normally, depending on where you live, most prestigious schools offer needs-based bursaries and merit-based scholarships, so try out for it if you are a high achiever in either sports or music or academics.

    Otherwise it would wise to move to a grammar school or another state school.
    Primarily because if you do well in a State school in a fairly 'deprived' area or one that has a low number of GCSE 9's or A*s, Universities will consider you for courses and assess you less harshly. It would be helpful in that sense to stay in state school education.

    But honestly, the high society one gets to interact with in Public/Private schools are quite beneficial in the long run, but consider the Public schools that have a high reputation rather than those that are merely fee paying schools with better care in teaching.
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    The thing is, I would totally try out for a grammar school although my mum is so against them. My older brother and sister went to grammar schools. My mum said that my brother's school was actually really good but obvs i cant go there becuase its an only boys school. My sister's school however, my mum is against and also said that I won't be able to deal with the pressure although I highly disagree with her. She refuses for me to attend a grammar school to this day and my sister did tell my mum to do the test but my mum refused and I told my sister to convince her to ask to put me in and she said that its got nothing to do with her and then she goes onto saying that my school isn't as sh*t as I say it is. I just don't think my sister understands at all and I then go on to asking my brother to convince her and he actually agreed and got round to convincing my mum. My mum said we could apply to some next crappy school round the corner and I then went onto looking at private schools, since my sister said she went to one in her last year of A level, and I found one that I would like to apply to but they do a test and their fees are £12000 and my brother said maybe.
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    your negatives are part of the point for a lot of parents..

    I want mine and my wifes future kids to meet a lot of kids with rich parents. Why? Because statistically on the whole wealth does not change dramatically between generation.. Chances are those kids of rich parents will one day be rich themselves. They are excellent contacts for my future kids.

    The old saying of 'its not what you know, but who you know' - is enough justification for private school alone. Contacts made in secondary school can last a life-time.

    What good is it for my kids to have a better education in life? I don't want them to have an ordinary life - I want them to have a very privileged life.. for that an education in 'life' if such a general thing exists is pointless. Its much more useful for them to have an education in the specific skills, social etiquette etc. etc. that they will need for securing themselves a decent well off future. If they want to experience 'real life' (as some would put it) then they can do that outside of school in their free time. In school they are their for the sole purpose of learning and securing themselves a better future. Both of which are enhanced by being at a (good) private school.
    Ahaha yeah you think you’ll stay in contact but no, I’m in year 13 and I’m still friends with only maybe 3 or 4 people from year 11 because you always make new friends at your new place, and so I can see your point for 6th form but not for secondary school. And I’m not alone in this either.. if you want them to get good contacts send them to a top uni and to get into that going to a good sixth form is a necessary. And you say you want to secure a privileged future for them? What happens if as much as you try it doesn’t work out for them? They are going to not have the skills to work their way back up. And privileged people aren’t always the happiest people, in fact they are often the least happiest...

    the only 2 reasons I can understand someone being sent to a private school is 1. There is an issue with bullying - either the parents or kids have a bad experience at state school and private school might solve that. And secondly if all the local schools that are free are poor or in “special measures” but if you live in an area with an ofted outstanding school why pay so much money on education
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    and don’t even get me started on single-ed schools... and one more thing, take a look at the DfE information on degree attainment. If you’re a smart kid, what secondary school you attend will have zero impact on your uni, but those that attended state school sixth forms, and especially colleges which are separate from a secondary school create students who have a far better chance of attaining a first or 2:1, something like 30% more likely as they have been taught more like they will be at uni (not spoon fed) If you don’t believe me, ask me to find the stats and I can get them for you...
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    (Original post by NeverGrowUp)
    It depends which one you got to.I go to one and its slightly more expensive than the average private school, but in return i get the most supportive and friendly staff I've ever had, great teachers and small classed sizes. Check the exam results of the schools your looking at and see the number of students who get into top/russell group unis and into competitive courses. It will give you an idea of how good it is.
    Going to a private school is not helpful if your not willing to do the work regardless of how good the teachers are. The teachers are not all amazing but the students are clever so do the work themselves.
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    (Original post by queenmeelzx)
    Hey,
    so I am currently at a public normal school and I want to leave right now. I spoke to my brother and friends about it and they all think I should leave because things aren't getting any better here. My brother has told my mum and she said she will get an application form for the school I want to go to.

    I asked my brother if I could go to private school and I think its about £6000 a term and he said maybe and I really want to go but a question he asked me stayed in my head and it was 'What if i'm basically paying £6000 and your still unhappy? All that money is thrown away!'

    I still really want to go to private school but I wanted to know if any of you reading this think going to a private school will be the best for me? And if it's worth the £6000 my bro will be paying?

    Thanks,
    Meelz x
    Just because u go to a public school doesnt mean u are guaranteed grades.

    If u are willing to work hard u can succeed anywhere, personally i wouldnt pay £6000 a term when i can get all the teaching i need for free and still have a good experience of school.
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    (Original post by queenmeelzx)
    Gosh thats a lot. I was told that it was £6000 per year?
    12 grand is actually cheap if it includes boarding
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    I go to a private school and I would say they arent worth it. It doesnt prepare for the real world. Having small groups and being treated like a special snowflake isn't whats out there, school itself is 95% useless, theres no need to pay more money for getting a distorted view of reality. I would love to go back to a state/grammar school, but once you go to a private school you are far behind in life compared to the people who didnt
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    Really depends on the school, the staff and the pupils. I went to 2 UK private schools and a UK international school in the middle east. Some state schools are better run than some private schools for sure, it's impossible to just put every single private school in a tin and put a "worth it/not worth it" sticker on it.

    Funny enough, my international school was the most like a state school in terms of the staff and students and general attitude (with the exception of some better facilities like a pool, tennis court/basketball court and astroturf football pitch), but it was really hot on the PR and public engagement, which helped me a lot as a young musician for my later CV because the school company's PR team secured media coverage for me because it made them look good - wouldn't have happened at a state school.

    Compare to my other two schools which were both specialised music schools that were supposed to prepare you for being successfully self employed in the classical music sector, in the combined 4 1/2 years there, I had one interview (Guardian I think, very long ago now). In Dubai, at a bog standard international school, I had 5 interviews across the same length of time.

    Some private schools put their money into different things. What I will say is that if you already have a specialised area you want to go into, private school, if it has a better staff-to-pupil ratio, is more likely to be able to bend things to work around you, and also have better abilities to market you and prep you for the professional world later on if it means that the exposure could be mutually beneficial for both you and the school (private schools love being able to add to their "Notable Alumni" list a decade or two down the line)

    On the other hand, some private schools are run like state schools, except the money goes all into feeding the upper admin tasty salaries.

    Yes, private school can be worth it, but it really depends on the school itself.

    It sounds strange, but the best kind of school is a school that approaches you first, not the other way round. If they make the effort to seek you out, then it's a strong indicator they'll make the effort to tailor the experience to something that best suits you. Unless you already have shown a certain specialty area, this is rare, but if you do, then it can sometimes seem like the schools are applying to you, not the other way around!
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    Yes, it was a fantastic experience. Definitely worth it
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    (Original post by jamesgillian123)
    I go to a private school and I would say they arent worth it. It doesnt prepare for the real world. Having small groups and being treated like a special snowflake isn't whats out there, school itself is 95% useless, theres no need to pay more money for getting a distorted view of reality. I would love to go back to a state/grammar school, but once you go to a private school you are far behind in life compared to the people who didnt
    What private school do you go to that treats you like a "special snowflake"?? lol
    Private schools are more demanding and draining in terms of academics. You definitely are not far behind, i'd argue your ahead because you receive so much individual support and guidance as well as links
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    Hi, I joined a private school in year 7 and I'm still there (now year 13!) so hopefully I can give you an overview of what it's like long-term.

    Class sizes: obviously this will differ between schools, but my class sizes for GCSE were anywhere from 2 to about 15, and at A-Level my smallest class is 6 and biggest is 8. Personally I find these small class sizes really great as they've allowed me to improve my class participation in a non-intimidating environment (in bigger classes, e.g. 30, it's MUCH harder for the shy people to get a word in edgeways!) The teachers also get to know you really well and will have much more time to see you one to one if you're struggling with anything.

    Teaching/GCSEs: as with any school, you'll have people in your year who really want to work hard and others who care more about partying etc. However, from my experience, people at a private school do care more about their education (obvs I'm HUGELY over-generalising but this is just an overall thing) and achieving the best GCSEs they can. I know that I would not have achieved what I did at GCSE (11A* and 1A) if I had gone to a state school, because the focused and small environment at a private school means that nobody is left to fall behind - teachers WILL notice if you're struggling and do their best to help. Of course, state schools probably have students' best interests at heart too - however they may simply not have the resources/funding to help as much as private schools can.

    Social/Friends: personally I've not had a fab time as I go to an all girls' school which can be sooooo catty Also, with the smaller environment, it's much harder to avoid people you dislike or don't get along with (this is also why quite a few people left after year 11 to go to college, which is much bigger in my area). From my experience though there's always a range of friendship groups with different interests, so I'm sure you'll find somewhere you fit in. On a more positive note, you'll get to know everyone really well and it'll hopefully feel like a familiar environment, and not like you're seeing new faces every day! Also, there's never been any physical fighting/drug taking etc. as there may be in state schools.

    Hope this helps and if you have any more questions just ask
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    (Original post by magicbeans1212)
    What private school do you go to that treats you like a "special snowflake"?? lol
    Private schools are more demanding and draining in terms of academics. You definitely are not far behind, i'd argue your ahead because you receive so much individual support and guidance as well as links
    the real world doesnt rely on guidance it relys on self creativity and what you can do for yourself rather than being spoon fed info. As to the special snowflake point, im sure alot of private school are different but the one I go to and am familiar with are ones with small class sizes and lots of attention by a teacher, from what ive expereienced teachers are far less harsh on you because you are paying to go there.
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    (Original post by jamesgillian123)
    the real world doesnt rely on guidance it relys on self creativity and what you can do for yourself rather than being spoon fed info. As to the special snowflake point, im sure alot of private school are different but the one I go to and am familiar with are ones with small class sizes and lots of attention by a teacher, from what ive expereienced teachers are far less harsh on you because you are paying to go there.
    I''ve been to both and the teachers are less harsh because most students are well behaved. You do a lot yourself but you get guidance in what to do and how to do it. For example for a uni course you want to do, you'd be guided about opportunities available. Free schools just let you do everything and if you have little support from home, it's hard.
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    (Original post by magicbeans1212)
    I''ve been to both and the teachers are less harsh because most students are well behaved. You do a lot yourself but you get guidance in what to do and how to do it. For example for a uni course you want to do, you'd be guided about opportunities available. Free schools just let you do everything and if you have little support from home, it's hard.

    How would employers know you can think for yourself if you have been guided the whole way? if 2 people completed a degree, 1 is private school, 2 is free school. Empoyers would be more interested in 2 (in that regard) because they had to think for themselves to get to that position, a private school person is more likely to have just been guided and told what to do to get to that position and shows they think less.
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    (Original post by queenmeelzx)
    Hey,
    so I am currently at a public normal school and I want to leave right now. I spoke to my brother and friends about it and they all think I should leave because things aren't getting any better here. My brother has told my mum and she said she will get an application form for the school I want to go to.

    I asked my brother if I could go to private school and I think its about £6000 a term and he said maybe and I really want to go but a question he asked me stayed in my head and it was 'What if i'm basically paying £6000 and your still unhappy? All that money is thrown away!'

    I still really want to go to private school but I wanted to know if any of you reading this think going to a private school will be the best for me? And if it's worth the £6000 my bro will be paying?

    Thanks,
    Meelz x
    I moved to comprehensive sixth form as the pressure and extreme stress from private school was too much.

    There are many type A, ultra competitive rich kids looking to get 10A*'s etc at GCSE and there was around 3 hours of homework per night. Some people suffered mental illnesses like depression, eating disorders due to this.

    The only major difference was extra curricular activities and even that was competitive as you had those who excelled at sports and did county/national level looked down on those who could barely run 100m.

    Some of the teachers weren't worth paying for as well which isn't value for money.

    I say if you removed the top 25% of highest achievers at A level in this private school you would have the same sort of results/ leavers destinations as you would in a good state school sixth form.

    I did much better in the state school sixth form, was much happier and the teachers cared about you more as a person.

    I suppose it depends on which private school you go to and which state school but generally if you go to a well run state school where results are high you will do well regardless and could spend the money on travelling etc.

    If you go to private expect a very results driven, competitive environment which isn't always the nicest thing to be in.

    I hope this helps PM me if you want anymore details.
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    (Original post by jamesgillian123)
    How would employers know you can think for yourself if you have been guided the whole way? if 2 people completed a degree, 1 is private school, 2 is free school. Empoyers would be more interested in 2 (in that regard) because they had to think for themselves to get to that position, a private school person is more likely to have just been guided and told what to do to get to that position and shows they think less.
    Honestly I don't think employers are fussed at what school you went do. In fact if you went to a top uni like cambridge or oxford your're more likely to get a job because employers know you're a good candidate. It's easier for private school kids to get into cambridge or oxford.
 
 
 
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