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Cannabis and mental health

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Which of these best describes you:

I was having a discussion with somebody who believes there is a strong correlation between smoking pot (even a few times) and mental health issues (depression, bipolar, etc). My view is that there is certainly some overlap between cannabis users and those with mental health problems (which is statistically probable) and that, on occasion, cannabis may even exacerbate latent mental problems. However, I don't accept that recreational cannabis use is strongly linked to an increased likelihood of mental issues.

So this is a thread to discuss the issues and, as I know a lot of people here suffer from one form of mental health issue or another, I will add a poll to show if there is any anecdotal evidence to suggest a link or not.

NB: For the poll, I mean any form of mental health problem for which you have seen a doctor or psychiatrist etc (not just occasionally feeling a bit down about stuff!)

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Reply 1

However, I don't accept that recreational cannabis use is strongly linked to an increased likelihood of mental issues.


Umm so the massive amounts of scientific research linking cannabis to triggering psychosis don't convince you then?

Reply 2

I would say it's only if you use to too often (all day, perhaps) for a long period of time. Again, it's only anecdotal, but that seems to usually be the case. People just use mental health as an excuse to tell you not to smoke pot, when the truth is, there's nothing wrong with it in moderation.

:wink:

Reply 3

its been proven that people back in the 1960's that were smoking it were at an average age of 26. their brains had fully developed and matured so when they were smoking it they weren't causing as much damage to themselves.

however nowadays the average age of someone smoking cannabis is a VERY worrying 17!!! meaning that people younger are smoking it, and their brains and bodies haven't fully developed. so this could lead to them suffering mental health problems in the future.

they continue to run scientific tests on this and get different results back, but it does seem nowadays there are more people with mental health problems than in the past... although not entirely sure if thats mis-diagnosis these days and the fact the NHS pander to people.

Reply 4

Bekaboo
Umm so the massive amounts of scientific research linking cannabis to triggering psychosis don't convince you then?


:ditto:
We had a mental health unit on our health and social course at A2 and found our that cannabis can lead to for example to mental health illnesses/issues such as schizophrenia.
We also had a woman come in who talked to our group, she told us her son smoked cannabis at university and doctors found that linked him to developing the schizophernia he had.

Reply 5

The following is taken form The Royal College of Psychiatrists.

2006 Royal College of Psychiatrists, Cannabis and Mental Health, August
Over the past few years, research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents.

A study following 1600 Australian school-children, aged 14 to 15 for seven years, found that while children who use cannabis regularly have a significantly higher risk of depression, the opposite was not the case - children who already suffered from depression were not more likely than anyone else to use cannabis. However, adolescents who used cannabis daily were five times more likely to develop depression and anxiety in later life.

Three major studies followed large numbers of people over several years, and showed that those people who use cannabis have a higher than average risk of developing schizophrenia. If you start smoking it before the age of 15, you are 4 times more likely to develop a psychotic disorder by the time you are 26. They found no evidence of self-medication. It seemed that, the more cannabis someone used, the more likely they were to develop symptoms.

Why should teenagers be particularly vulnerable to the use of cannabis? No one knows for certain, but it may be something to do with brain development. The brain is still developing in the teenage years – up to the age of around 20, in fact. A massive process of ‘neural pruning’ is going on. This is rather like streamlining a tangled jumble of circuits so they can work more effectively. Any experience, or substance, that affects this process has the potential to produce long-term psychological effects.

Recent research in Europe, and in the UK, has suggested that people who have a family background of mental illness – and so probably have a genetic vulnerability anyway - are more likely to develop schizophrenia if they use cannabis as well.

Recent research in Denmark suggests that yes, there is. It is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year.

However, they also found that:

**Three quarters had a different psychotic disorder diagnosed within the next year.
**Nearly half still had a psychotic disorder 3 years later.

So, it also seems probable that nearly half of those diagnosed as having cannabis psychosis are actually showing the first signs of a more long-lasting psychotic disorder, such as schizophrenia. It may be this group of people who are particularly vulnerable to the effects of cannabis, and so should probably avoid it in the future.

Reply 6

The Macabre Vincent Price...
I would say it's only if you use to too often (all day, perhaps) for a long period of time. Again, it's only anecdotal, but that seems to usually be the case. People just use mental health as an excuse to tell you not to smoke pot, when the truth is, there's nothing wrong with it in moderation.

:wink:


Pardon? That's like saying there's nothing wrong with say cigarettes in moderation. Sure the risk of getting lung cancer or emphysema (sp?) is only ridiculously high if you're a regular smoker, rather than a 1-a-week-social-smoker... But that doesn't mean smoking tobacco doesn't put you more at risk than NOT doing it!

Reply 7

Bekaboo
Pardon? That's like saying there's nothing wrong with say cigarettes in moderation. Sure the risk of getting lung cancer or emphysema (sp?) is only ridiculously high if you're a regular smoker, rather than a 1-a-week-social-smoker... But that doesn't mean smoking tobacco doesn't put you more at risk than NOT doing it!


Oh, well, fair point, but we're talking about mental health here.

EDIT: For the record, I don't smoke cigarettes at all; and only occasionally marijuana.

Reply 8

I started about 15 smoking it relatively regularly then once I got to uni I was smoking it in excessive amounts everyday became increasingly paranoia and depressed and ended up dropping out of that uni and on anti-depressants. I've stopped the weed but still depressed, paranoia and occasionally psychotic.


I'm not sure whether weed led to mental illness or being a bit weird already led to weed. As I got more depressed and paranoid I tended to smoke weed and drink even more making the situation worse. That's not to say it caused it though. I still don't know. Wouldn't touch it again, though still think occasionally how nice it'd be to sit back and have a nice smoke.

Reply 9

Smoked a fair bit for about 4years... I never saw it coming... but I was getting increasingly paranoid... used to be really laid-back in general, now I still suffer from paranoia and depression and anxiety. Don't know if it was the cause of my mental health problems... but I would say it -definitely- exarcebated it. I had finally to stop because of it all.

Have a friend who does much more than me , and he is bipolar, and the most paranoid person I know.... but he does much harder drugs on a regular basis too.

Reply 10

My sister's boyfriend got sectioned for an episode of cannabis-induced psychosis. Now THERE's some blackmail material (our parents don't know)!

In general though, there's a wealth of evidence showing its link to mental health issues - though this is much harder to apply on an individual basis, and there's a question of whether some people are more vulnerable to psychotic illness than others. Also, it's well-established that people with certain mental illnesses and personality disorders are more likely than average to abuse drugs, so in those cases it's a consequence rather than a cause.

Reply 11

I dont do drugs. And I have no mental health problems. As far as I know. :p:

Reply 12

I smoked cannabis a lot between the ages of 15-18. Aged 18-20 I suffered from paranoia, depression, anxiety, and OCD which disrupted my daily routine. I regularly (daily) had panic attacks, too.

Aged 21, I still suffer from anxiety and paranoia. I dislike working in my office because I "know" everyone is talking about me. I struggle to form close bonds with people. I have kind of kicked the depression and OCD into touch, but it's always there, like a shark in the deep water.

I think that cannabis "unlocked" all the problems I already had and compounded the issues. I was stupid, and I've been paying the price ever since.

Reply 13

I think there's a moderate to strong link.
That's for very regular users.

I think genetics is most often to blame though.

Reply 14

I smoke it everyday. I have just smoked some. I have never had problems and feel fine, laidback and happy with life at the moment. I have been smoking weed for 2 and a half years.

Reply 15

I've never smoked cannabis and suffer from Mental Health problems, I wouldn't say that this proves that there is no link though

Reply 16

I'm really never sure what I think about this. There does seem to be a hell of a lot of evidence coming out about it and I do err more toward believing there is some type of link definitely.

However, I think people (particulaly the press when this is reported) do seem very keen to attribute causality as well as just a link, and I'm not so sure of the details there....

Reply 17

my neighbour drank himself to death, after being an incurable alcoholic
multiple organ failure, a few weeks ago

why is this kind of death tolerated?
why are people more fascinated and surprised that systematically abusing cannabis can lead to mental health issues?

as long as alcohol retains this privileged status of deity-drug, no-one can make a point about other substances.

i no longer buy the independent. after their smear campaign titled "CANNABIS: AN APOLOGY"

a reversal on their past approach to legalisation. their argument? "scientists (whoever the hell they are) have proven modern cannabis strains to be 20 times more powerful than the stuff of the 60s (the stuff we smoked as kids), therefore, its too dangerous to legalise"

they then went on to explain how since it's illegalisation it's potency had been raised through genetic engineering. WELL NO %%%%%%%%E SHERLOCK. if you haven't got a regulated, and monitored cap on the cannabis being distributed in society, the black market is going to do it, and better.

criminalisation and cultural stigma are the main problems we've got to overcome if we're going to start to make progress on the matter.

Reply 18

I share a joint or several with friends about once a week and I have no mental health problems as of yet. Although that is only in the last few months, before that I smoked it very very rarely and I am 22 so the effects won't be as disastrous as they would be for teenagers according to the evidence quoted in this thread. I'm certain its not sensible to do it too much though, I don't think anyone but the most hardened stoner would advocate smoking all day most days of the week.

Reply 19

My boyfriend smokes every day. Probably about 4/5 now, but it used to be much higher before he got his current job. He's on medication for depression and in my opinion he has several mental health problems. However, I can't say whether he would be any different if he had never smoked it once.