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    (Original post by serions871)
    What I'm saying is not based on race but culture. Britain's natives are British people in the sense that they are people who are united by a common British culture, not race. It's a fact that Britain's culture is very different from Pakistani culture, and the Pakistanis who came here should have adopted British culture, not the other way around. The problem with these 'Pakistani areas' is that all areas should be dominated by British culture and people who have come to this country should ideally be adopting the native culture. That's not happening in a lot of areas, such as Bradford, East London and Luton. That's why white British people have left those areas, because the areas no longer are dominated by British culture, i.e. British western clothes, western attitudes, western social norms etc
    There is no common British culture.
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    (Original post by Laissez‒faire)
    There is no common British culture.
    There clearly is.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult...United_Kingdom
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    and its composition of four countriesEngland, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland—each of which has distinct customs, cultures and symbolism

    Did you even read your own link?
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    (Original post by Laissez‒faire)
    and its composition of four countriesEngland, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland—each of which has distinct customs, cultures and symbolism

    Did you even read your own link?
    Those cultures are all British culture.
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    (Original post by serions871)
    Those cultures are all British culture.
    I said there's no common British culture.
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    not really.... tbh where i live which is full of Asians they are all super confident and loud and sociable people! they wear normal western clothing with a few exceptions to make them more 'modest' depending on the person (aswell as a few that wear religious items but many still wear normal jeans and such). they all talk fluent English and even typical British slang. they are all smart and open minded too ! plus its easier for Europeans to integrate as their culture and religion is already very similar to the typical British and Christian culture and faith.. whereas people in Asia have very different culture and values and norms so it does SOMETIMES take a little longer. tbh i think people just stereotype thinking most Asians don't integrate when in fact a majority of them do ..
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    (Original post by serions871)
    What I'm saying is not based on race but culture. Britain's natives are British people in the sense that they are people who are united by a common British culture
    And what exactly is "British culture" as you put it?
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    I agree. There's too many complaints regarding muslims and their way of living. I.e: bacon in public places, etc. Not only that, but even thought there are muslims who value the country's rules, there are still muslims who value their religion's rules over the countrys.

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    (Original post by Laissez‒faire)
    There is no common British culture.
    There no common Pakistani culture ever first of all Pakistani are not all Muslims they can be any religion Christians, Jews and even atheist. Pakistan has many different ethnic groups, languages and social classes.
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    There no common Pakistani culture ever first of all Pakistani are not all Muslims they can be any religion Christians, Jews and even atheist. Pakistan has many different ethnic groups, languages and social classes.
    Why are you telling me?
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    (Original post by MartinF98)
    Just from observation, it seems to me that the Muslim communities from Asian countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh integrate less into British society than other immigrant groups like Chinese and Europeans. But then you also see Muslims in more affluent parts of the UK integrating very well. So do you think the problem lies more with working class immigrants in general or mainly with Muslims?
    Define 'integrating'. Does that mean going out to the club every night and getting wasted? I, along with many South Asians I know, get along well with people of all backgrounds. We all have friends from all backgrounds and get along well with each other. Now, if you expect us to go out clubbing and drinking every night then there's the issue of religious restrictions which prevent that; but other than that we do integrate into the British society.
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    (Original post by shameful_burrito)
    Yes, I have noticed that they need more practice with integration. I recommend solving more problems on Riemann's integral, Lebesgue integration and Contour integration.
    Learn to differentiate between the two types of Integration, my friend...you're going off on quite a tangent.
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    (Original post by Kevin Hodge)
    Define 'integrating'. Does that mean going out to the club every night and getting wasted? I, along with many South Asians I know, get along well with people of all backgrounds. We all have friends from all backgrounds and get along well with each other. Now, if you expect us to go out clubbing and drinking every night then there's the issue of religious restrictions which prevent that; but other than that we do integrate into the British society.
    it means not causing a problem with how the society works and not expecting special treatments. I.e: muslims making a issue of breastfeeding in public and bacon.
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    (Original post by Imzy010)
    not really.... tbh where i live which is full of Asians they are all super confident and loud and sociable people! they wear normal western clothing with a few exceptions to make them more 'modest' depending on the person (aswell as a few that wear religious items but many still wear normal jeans and such). they all talk fluent English and even typical British slang. they are all smart and open minded too ! plus its easier for Europeans to integrate as their culture and religion is already very similar to the typical British and Christian culture and faith.. whereas people in Asia have very different culture and values and norms so it does SOMETIMES take a little longer. tbh i think people just stereotype thinking most Asians don't integrate when in fact a majority of them do ..
    These are a lot of Pakistani Christians living in Britain in Hounslow the local girls Catholic School has more students of Pakistani Christians descend than white British students.
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    (Original post by brownguytorule)
    it means not causing a problem with how the society works and not expecting special treatments. I.e: muslims making a issue of breastfeeding in public and bacon.
    I think the current generation and future generations will have fewer issues and integrate more into the British society since we’re all born and raised in the UK so it’s the only society we’ve been part of. The problem tends to be the older generation since they have spent the majority of their childhood back home and have moved to the UK, therefore there’s been a clash of cultures. It’s the same as a Brit moving to Pakistan or Bangladesh. It takes some getting used to since the two cultures are totally different. However, as I said, this shouldn’t be a problem with a lot of the current generation and future generation since we’ll be brought up in the British culture.
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    These are a lot of Pakistani Christians living in Britain in Hounslow the local girls Catholic School has more students of Pakistani Christians descend than white British students.
    ummm no... i don't fully understand your point.? many of them are MUSLIMS from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Morroco, middle east, Asia in general etc, literally lots of Asian Muslims and others likee sikhs, hindus .. etc . . . i dont live in hounslow.
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    Yes.
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    (Original post by Imzy010)
    ummm no... i don't fully understand your point.? many of them are MUSLIMS from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Morroco, middle east, Asia in general etc, literally lots of Asian Muslims and others likee sikhs, hindus .. etc . . . i dont live in hounslow.
    What I saying is that a lot Asian that come Britain are Christians in areas like Hounslow you find Pakistani, India and Afghan churches. There even a synagogue in London that own and run by Jews of Asian descent. Most British people seem to believe South Asian follow Islam, Hindus etc but Christianity and Judaism have been in South Asia for thousands of years longer than in Britain.
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    What I saying is that a lot Asian that come Britain are Christians in areas like Hounslow you find Pakistani, India and Afghan churches. There even a synagogue in London that own and run by Jews of Asian descent. Most British people seem to believe South Asian follow Islam, Hindus etc but Christianity and Judaism have been in South Asia for thousands of years longer than in Britain.
    yes but thats a small minority. maybe quite a few indians that are christian but still a minority out of them all..
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    (Original post by brownguytorule)
    I agree. There's too many complaints regarding muslims and their way of living. I.e: bacon in public places, etc. Not only that, but even thought there are muslims who value the country's rules, there are still muslims who value their religion's rules over the countrys.

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    One of the rules in the religion regarding emigrating to another country is that they have to follow the law of the land they have moved to. Any seriously religious Muslim person I personally know follows this.
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