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    When I did , I did struggle with integration and differentiation. To integrate is hard
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    (Original post by hannxm)
    Many do, but the older generation seem to live in their own bubble, refuse to acknowledge other people and don't integrate at all, so I agree.
    We have a Chinese family who's moved in and they're so friendly and wave to us every day. We have an Indian family on the street, who were also very chatty when we met them, but there's a Muslim family that don't speak to any neighbours.
    I care for someone in a Muslim family and the mother doesn't even know English (she's lived in the country for decades) and doesn't go out or even try to learn the language and get to know other people - she doesn't even smile at you.
    They just gather in an area, take over it and alienate themselves from people and I think that's what can cause ignorance and hate. Literally every time I see a strong faith Muslim on television, actually getting involved and speaking to people outside of their religion or ethnicity, it's quite unusual, but always nice to see. But the 'religion of peace' makes out that other religions and atheists are bad people so it's not surprising.
    I like how you try to be open-minded, yet judge all muslims based on this one family. THERE ARE TWO BILLION MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD! don't taint us with the same brush! " take over it"??? Really? You understand how you sound right. They are humans and not pests. They do not take over, they just settle in one area. BIG difference!!!
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    (Original post by AppleBlossom5)
    I like how you try to be open-minded, yet judge all muslims based on this one family. THERE ARE TWO BILLION MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD! don't taint us with the same brush! " take over it"??? Really? You understand how you sound right. They are humans and not pests. They do not take over, they just settle in one area. BIG difference!!!

    Pew Research (2013):
    • Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
    • Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
    • 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/

    Wenzel Strategies (2012):
    • 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
    • 45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
    • 12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
    • 43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
    • 32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.

    http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/201...-of-expression

    ICM Poll:
    • 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
    • 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...law-in-UK.html

    Pew Research (2010):
    • 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
    • 56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers

    http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

    WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
    • 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/40...fundamentalism

    Pew Global (2006)
    • 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.

    http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

    World Public Opinion (2009)
    • 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
    • 32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
    • 41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
    • 38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
    • 62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
    • 42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

    NOP Research:
    • 62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
    • 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

    People Press Surveys
    • 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.

    http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/...fter-iraq-war/

    Belgian HLN:
    • 16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml

    ICM Poll:
    • 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.

    http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp

    Pew Research (2007):
    • 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
    • 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
    • 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
    • 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
    • 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

    http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

    Al-Jazeera (2006)
    • 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden

    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

    Populus Poll (2006):
    • 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
    • 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".

    http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

    GfK NOP:
    • 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state

    http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

    NOP Research:
    • 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

    MacDonald Laurier Institute:
    • 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
    • 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda

    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01...riah-in-canada
    http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-...ion-in-canada/

    al-Arabiya:
    • 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure

    http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/20...10/166274.html

    Gallup:
    • 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially"

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/p...like-us-really

    Policy Exchange:
    • 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust
    • Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.

    http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SU...20Download.pdf
    http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf


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    (Original post by hoixw)
    Pew Research (2013):
    • Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
    • Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
    • 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.


    http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/

    Wenzel Strategies (2012):
    • 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
    • 45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
    • 12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
    • 43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
    • 32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.


    http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/201...-of-expression

    ICM Poll:
    • 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
    • 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...law-in-UK.html

    Pew Research (2010):
    • 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
    • 56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers


    http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

    WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
    • 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.


    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/40...fundamentalism

    Pew Global (2006)
    • 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.


    http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

    World Public Opinion (2009)
    • 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
    • 32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
    • 41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
    • 38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
    • 62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
    • 42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)


    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

    NOP Research:
    • 62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
    • 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

    People Press Surveys
    • 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.


    http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/...fter-iraq-war/

    Belgian HLN:
    • 16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".


    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml

    ICM Poll:
    • 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.


    http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp

    Pew Research (2007):
    • 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
    • 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
    • 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
    • 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
    • 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).


    http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

    Al-Jazeera (2006)
    • 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden


    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

    Populus Poll (2006):
    • 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
    • 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".


    http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

    GfK NOP:
    • 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state


    http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

    NOP Research:
    • 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

    MacDonald Laurier Institute:
    • 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
    • 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda


    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01...riah-in-canada
    http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-...ion-in-canada/

    al-Arabiya:
    • 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure


    http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/20...10/166274.html

    Gallup:
    • 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially"


    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/p...like-us-really

    Policy Exchange:
    • 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust
    • Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.


    http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SU...20Download.pdf
    http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf


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    OH? Well, actually what i was responding to was about a family who seemed very closed off and quiet. Not terrorism. That had nothing to do with what I was saying! SO HOW CAN I INTEGRATE IF THE FIRST THING I SAY, YOU BRING UP TERRORISM??? Integration's TWO WAY!!! If you would actually bother to get to know a Muslim person, properly, you wouldn't spend ages copying and pasting statistics and URLs!! How long did that take - If you don't mind me asking??
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    (Original post by AppleBlossom5)
    integration shouldn't be one-sided
    Dude, why should people come to our country and expect us to make changes to our lives and practices to accommodate them?
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    Wft??? I was born here! I make my way! Who are you to judge where i come from? Sheffield aint that bad???? 😁😁😁 jokes aside - i didnt say make a change for me i said - that islamaphobic jokes need to stop in order for integration!!! Grateful to be here?? I have been on tv. I am a star student. I speak fluent english. As does my entire family. We pay taxes. And i swear, the amount of charity work muslims do - for this country too - has amounted to billions! Zakat (charity) is mandatory for muslims because it is vital to support the less-fortunate. I am really not trying to praise myself but you can't question me and my integrity for the sake of asking for change!!! You dont make changes for me! Instead i have to dumb down my name just so you can pronounce it! My name! Whatever hellhole??? Really? So derogatory?? You do realise that everybody in the uk, some way or other are related to an immigrant - the vikings, normans etc. People like you insult others despite forgetting that their ancestors were immigrants too. Have some shame. ..
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    (Original post by hoixw)
    Pew Research (2013):
    • Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
    • Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
    • 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/

    Wenzel Strategies (2012):
    • 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
    • 45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
    • 12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
    • 43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
    • 32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.

    http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/201...-of-expression

    ICM Poll:
    • 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
    • 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...law-in-UK.html

    Pew Research (2010):
    • 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
    • 82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
    • 56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers

    http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

    WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
    • 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/40...fundamentalism

    Pew Global (2006)
    • 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
    • 15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.

    http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

    World Public Opinion (2009)
    • 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
    • 32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
    • 41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
    • 38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
    • 62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
    • 42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

    NOP Research:
    • 62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
    • 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

    People Press Surveys
    • 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.

    http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/...fter-iraq-war/

    Belgian HLN:
    • 16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml

    ICM Poll:
    • 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.

    http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp

    Pew Research (2007):
    • 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
    • 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
    • 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
    • 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
    • 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

    http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

    Al-Jazeera (2006)
    • 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden

    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

    Populus Poll (2006):
    • 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
    • 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".

    http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

    GfK NOP:
    • 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state

    http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

    NOP Research:
    • 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

    MacDonald Laurier Institute:
    • 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
    • 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda

    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01...riah-in-canada
    http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-...ion-in-canada/

    al-Arabiya:
    • 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure

    http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/20...10/166274.html

    Gallup:
    • 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially"

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/p...like-us-really

    Policy Exchange:
    • 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust
    • Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.

    http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SU...20Download.pdf
    http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf


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    oh . but youre wrong. that **** is fake af .... tbh
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    (Original post by AppleBlossom5)
    Wft??? I was born here! I make my way! Who are you to judge where i come from? Sheffield aint that bad???? 😁😁😁 jokes aside - i didnt say make a change for me i said - that islamaphobic jokes need to stop in order for integration!!! Grateful to be here?? I have been on tv. I am a star student. I speak fluent english. As does my entire family. We pay taxes. And i swear, the amount of charity work muslims do - for this country too - has amounted to billions! Zakat (charity) is mandatory for muslims because it is vital to support the less-fortunate. I am really not trying to praise myself but you can't question me and my integrity for the sake of asking for change!!! You dont make changes for me! Instead i have to dumb down my name just so you can pronounce it! My name! Whatever hellhole??? Really? So derogatory?? You do realise that everybody in the uk, some way or other are related to an immigrant - the vikings, normans etc. People like you insult others despite forgetting that their ancestors were immigrants too. Have some shame. ..
    PREACH GURL !!! evrything you say is straight up facts and i agree with evrything :clap2::clap2::clap2:
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    (Original post by AppleBlossom5)
    Umm, no. I am a Muslim who lives in a white area who has majority white friends. I am also Bangladeshi and think that the integration shouldn't be one-sided - when I am in school, you see Muslims (Arab, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Somali, etc.) happily talking to others but hardly ever the other way around. People constantly make Islamaphobic jokes around me - not necessarily directed AT me- but nevertheless, it still hurts. How can we integrate when we feel uncomfortable when somebody is making a horrible 'joke' and then to fuel the fire - EVERYBODY else laughs, it is impossible. I have shaken off so many incidents and now I don't even react because I have become so hardened to it. I have tried MY best to integrate - very successfully at that, but other people who give up after being picked on, can't be blamed. if you are made to feel unwelcome, wouldn't you want to stay in a community where you are not judged on your skin colour or religion? That is why people don't mix, because of bad experiences. So there is no point bashing them for that if YOU won't do anything. Not directly targeted at OP, just a massive rant.
    The "joke" part is very telling. I regularly get called a snowflake or SJW when I point out that things aren't always jokes and freedom of speech doesn't mean you should say what you want. But the reply is always the same from certain people, it's just a joke. You see that a lot on memes on the internet too. Or that group of students rejected from Oxbridge for their disgusting group chat on WhatsApp. It's always just "jokes" to these people.
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    (Original post by AppleBlossom5)
    The problem does not lie mainly with Muslims. The amount of Islamaphobic abuse has increased, women are having their headscarves pulled off their heads, taxi drivers are being assaulted purely because they are called Mohammed. It is ridiculous! If you don't feel safe, why would you try and "integrate?" possibly risking your own welfare. Yeah, I am not saying Muslims don't commit crimes, every single religion and ethnic group commits crimes, but as a whole, since Brexit and Trump, we have been increasingly picked on (to put it lightly).
    This is cart before the horse logic, no? The immigration has been since before Brexit and Trump so how is their failure to integrate due to those things unless they have a time machine or we're caught in minority report. Integration actually reduces the risk of these types of events because you might easily dislike 'the other' as in someone you have no connection to but I'm not going to punch Raj who I've known for six years because some orange dipsh!t says Muslims are a problem. However if I don't know any Muslims and they've kept themselves separate it's far easier to believe that he does want to kill me because I'm not Islamic as is actually the case in their theocratic states, which in turn justifies to a degree doing bad things to them. Also as a side note the majority of Muslims are not European so Brexit is about as relevant to them in direct terms as cheese prices in Switzerland (obviously I get the limited immigration angle but (a) the EU doesn't control non-EU immigration very much anyway, and (b) it isn't inherently against a group to not want to allow anyone who feels like it into your country) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bridge-attacks

    The problem is as much with their staunch defenders as it is anyone else. When the guardian writes ridiculous stuff about how everyone is racist and islamophobic, about how immigration debates are racist unless you agree everyone should be allowed, that people aren't allowed to say maybe Islam has an extremism problem people get so fed up of hearing how oppressed the people who just ran their friend over are (as in they don't know any so judge the group by its most prominent face) and it causes a kick back. It's been shown how these kinds of outlets argue in poor faith and it pushes people to more extreme views.


    (Original post by Ninja Squirrel)
    People are entitled to follow their culture as long as it's not harming others. If they don't want to integrate I don't see a problem with it.

    If I moved to a Muslim country I wouldn't start taking part in all their festivals and cultural norms just for the sake of it.
    That doesn't mean they aren't integrated. They have every right to do their festivals and whatever else they want to do, but integration is respecting other peoples rights to do the same and getting on with people from all walks of life when your paths align. Obviously muslims can't drink for the most part, but they still used to come to house parties and they'd simply not drink alcohol and would - when required - break out the prayer rug and out of respect nobody messed with them whilst they were praying. That's integration. You talk, you share ideas and experiences, but maintain and respect each others differences. Muslim communities at large do not do this and tend to remain isolated https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...slim-77qdr67tl which (a) causes suspicion and distrust, and (b) makes them easier to lump together and blame collectively for the problems within their religion as a whole. If people aren't interacting with them then they have no frame of reference. It needs effort on BOTH sides.
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    Personally I have no interest whatsoever in foreign culture , food , politics or dressing up to please my religious peers .
    Therefore I don't care where such people integrate so long as it's nowhere near me .

    I prefer the company of my dogs.
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    (Original post by Imzy010)
    oh . but youre wrong. that **** is fake af .... tbh
    Cited studies from some of the world's largest organisations are obviously fake. New world conspiracy and all obviously. /s
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    INever got this whole integrating thing

    why would people have to do that, who was liberty.
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    (Original post by AppleBlossom5)
    OH? Well, actually what i was responding to was about a family who seemed very closed off and quiet. Not terrorism. That had nothing to do with what I was saying! SO HOW CAN I INTEGRATE IF THE FIRST THING I SAY, YOU BRING UP TERRORISM??? Integration's TWO WAY!!! If you would actually bother to get to know a Muslim person, properly, you wouldn't spend ages copying and pasting statistics and URLs!! How long did that take - If you don't mind me asking??
    INTEGRATION IS NOT TWO WAY. Do I have to repeat myself? INTEGRATION IS NOT TWO WAY. Try integrating Christians into Islamist countries such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and tell them it's two way.

    I didn't bring up terrorism, I brought up statistics that show a large proportion of Muslims support/are fine with/solicit terrorism. Imagine there was a bowl of M&Ms, and you are country. 28% want to overthrow your country, and the rest are probably fine. You probably wouldn't take a M&M.

    It took about a minute if you are wondering, I have more statistics if you really care.

    Also if you wanted a interesting fact, there have been 150 Islamic terrorist attacks in 21 countries in the past 30 days. In which 1610 people died.
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    (Original post by MartinF98)
    Just from observation, it seems to me that the Muslim communities from Asian countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh integrate less into British society than other immigrant groups like Chinese and Europeans. But then you also see Muslims in more affluent parts of the UK integrating very well. So do you think the problem lies more with working class immigrants in general or mainly with Muslims?
    Integration = interbreeding = White Genocide.

    Diversity is White Genocide.
 
 
 
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