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    Hi guys

    Not sure if anyone can help me but I’m a 25 year old student that would like to join the Medicine course in Leicester uni. Only problem is I do not hold any a levels and have only got an nvq level 2 in beauty therapy and a btec in art and design which is not even going to get me through the course and I have decided to have a career change

    Can anyone please help me on how I can attain these a levels etc I wanna apply next year but unsure how this is going to be possible as it is now October and I need to get my grades by next year.

    Thank you very much
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    Have you considered a foundation course?

    Why would you like to do Medicine?

    PS I also studied at Leicester!
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    I have looked at the foundation year and they would like a levels in chemistry or biology

    To be fair, after working since I left college I realised that this was not the path for me. I have always been interested in Medicine, but never had the mindset and determination in order to pursue it until now!
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    Have you considered a foundation course?

    Why would you like to do Medicine?

    PS I also studied at Leicester!
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    (Original post by Jessica2020)
    I have looked at the foundation year and they would like a levels in chemistry or biology

    To be fair, after working since I left college I realised that this was not the path for me. I have always been interested in Medicine, but never had the mindset and determination in order to pursue it until now!
    Have you considered "Access to Medicine" courses? This website provides some information https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wik...ss_to_Medicine

    Why were you interested in Medicine? (Sorry to quiz but they will certainly ask at interviews) I am very happy that you have made the decision, as we always need more doctors!
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    I'd recommend considering an Access to Medicine course in the first instance - it's one year as opposed to two and covers all the relevant material. The only thing is to ensure that the specific Access course you're looking at is acceptable for the medicine courses you intend to apply to - most Medicine courses only accept a limited number of access courses.
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    As above re. Access course. Plus you will possibly need GCSE English and Maths which you can take alongside Access. Check the entry requirements with Unis before you apply.

    You will need to pack in some serious medicine work experience over this summer - and take BMAT and/or UKCAT aptitude tests, Med applications have to be at UCAS by 14 October (for start the following autumn) and you need to be able to talk about this in your Personal Statement.

    Lots of info/advice about applying to Medicine here :https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/Medicine
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    Thanks - I’ve had a look at the link you’ve sent. In regards to the access course I’ve found this on the Leicester Uni website:

    “Please note that we will NOT consider the Access to Medicine course in lieu of A levels, or poor previous A level performance in either undergraduate or graduate candidates, unless there are significant mitigating circumstances.”

    Does this mean that the access course will not help Me in my application as I do not have an A-level or it’s equivalent? Is there any other route as a non-traditional applicant?

    I think what attracts me is the amount of learning I’ll undertake on the course! And then using knowledge to diagnose and treat patients. There’s so much to learn about the human body and the things that can go wrong with it. It’s a hard and thankless job, but rewarding. Honestly I haven’t thought to put my motivations into words as of yet.




    (Original post by ecolier)
    Have you considered "Access to Medicine" courses? This website provides some information https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wik...ss_to_Medicine

    Why were you interested in Medicine? (Sorry to quiz but they will certainly ask at interviews) I am very happy that you have made the decision, as we always need more doctors!
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    Bristol, and many other Unis, WILL accept Access to Medicine courses.
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    (Original post by Jessica2020)
    Thanks - I’ve had a look at the link you’ve sent. In regards to the access course I’ve found this on the Leicester Uni website:

    “Please note that we will NOT consider the Access to Medicine course in lieu of A levels, or poor previous A level performance in either undergraduate or graduate candidates, unless there are significant mitigating circumstances.”

    Does this mean that the access course will not help Me in my application as I do not have an A-level or it’s equivalent? Is there any other route as a non-traditional applicant?

    I think what attracts me is the amount of learning I’ll undertake on the course! And then using knowledge to diagnose and treat patients. There’s so much to learn about the human body and the things that can go wrong with it. It’s a hard and thankless job, but rewarding. Honestly I haven’t thought to put my motivations into words as of yet.
    That's a really good way of putting things - you seem to understand what the job is like already!

    Now my next question is are you dead-set on Leicester? The universities tend to want the "Access to Medicine" students to apply to their University. Do you have any mitigating circumstances?
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    Yes I’m dead set on leicester for sure as I live in Leicester and have a job here and can’t really afford going into another city if that makes sense!

    My only concern is without foundation year, uni of Leicester wants all B’s in English math and sciences which I have all C’s in and I wouldn’t be able to just do the access course and use my GCSE’s as entry requirements for medicine without foundation year.



    (Original post by ecolier)
    That's a really good way of putting things - you seem to understand what the job is like already!

    Now my next question is are you dead-set on Leicester? The universities tend to want the "Access to Medicine" students to apply to their University. Do you have any mitigating circumstances?
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    (Original post by Jessica2020)
    Yes I’m dead set on leicester for sure as I live in Leicester and have a job here and can’t really afford going into another city if that makes sense!

    My only concern is without foundation year, uni of Leicester wants all B’s in English math and sciences which I have all C’s in and I wouldn’t be able to just do the access course and use my GCSE’s as entry requirements for medicine without foundation year.
    Ok, if you have a job would you be able to juggle between working and studying? It is a realistic consideration because as part of your clinical years at Leicester, you will be sent to outlying areas - as far as Boston (Lincolnshire), Lincoln, Burton-upon-Trent, Northampton and Kettering etc.

    Finally, perhaps it is worth calling up Leicester Med School and asking preliminary questions like the ones you have posed here, if you only must apply to Leicester. It is also worth considering that with Medicine being a very competitive subject, having all your eggs in one basket (i.e. just applying to one place) may lead to disappointment.
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    I think there are only two viable options in this case:

    1) Do an Access to Medicine course and sacrifice attending Leicester

    2) Complete the relevant A-levels and apply for Medicine for 2019/2020 entry.

    The latter is the best course in my opinion: Medicine doesn't only demand specific grades, you also have to undergo work experience in healthcare environments to showcase your commitment as well as show involvement in other areas (such as volunteering) to highlight how 'well-rounded' you are. Giving yourself 2 years will allow you to meet the traditional entry requirements and obtain a good amount of experience to ensure a competitive application. Also remember, that Leicester requires applicants to complete the UKCAT, and this time frame will give you time to prepare for it.

    I studied Medicine myself for a while until I dropped out, and the application process was incredibly competitive and stressful, to say the least! It requires an incredible amount of commitment, and I think giving yourself 2 years to obtain the grades you need and to showcase your commitment to this career change through work experience and volunteering, will help you significantly.
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    I agree - you really must be prepared to jump through hoops to apply, and it will be extra hard to go as someone with no previous A-Levels, and extra extra hard if you have to only get Leicester. If you do want to consider doing A-Levels again as Nucleolus said, bear in mind that you will need As across the board in Biology, Chemistry and another subject. Do you think this is achievable while working?
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    Thank you for this!

    I definitely do want to apply in Leicester as in the longrun it would be easier as I live here etc

    However because It is now November and I’ve passed the college enrolment date, doing my a levels would be impossible this year unless i do it privately, and doing a levels through a college would take me another two years so I’ll be able to get into university in 2020.


    In terms of doing the access to medicine I have looked at the website and they would accept it if I did the course in a certain area such as Manchester which would be another problem

    (Original post by Nucleolus)
    I think there are only two viable options in this case:

    1) Do an Access to Medicine course and sacrifice attending Leicester

    2) Complete the relevant A-levels and apply for Medicine for 2019/2020 entry.

    The latter is the best course in my opinion: Medicine doesn't only demand specific grades, you also have to undergo work experience in healthcare environments to showcase your commitment as well as show involvement in other areas (such as volunteering) to highlight how 'well-rounded' you are. Giving yourself 2 years will allow you to meet the traditional entry requirements and obtain a good amount of experience to ensure a competitive application. Also remember, that Leicester requires applicants to complete the UKCAT, and this time frame will give you time to prepare for it.

    I studied Medicine myself for a while until I dropped out, and the application process was incredibly competitive and stressful, to say the least! It requires an incredible amount of commitment, and I think giving yourself 2 years to obtain the grades you need and to showcase your commitment to this career change through work experience and volunteering, will help you significantly.
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    Hi I definitely will be able to get part time hours and would definitely be able to study and prioritise my dreams and education more.

    I did email one or the dr admissions tutor and all I’ve been told is to check the entry requirements but I will be calling the university up and explain my situation and see if there would be any more options but I doubt it as Medicine in University of Leicester is very competitive and I’m pretty sure the students would have high qualifications and I probably wouldn’t wouldn’t stand a chance against them. So to avoid disappointment my best option is to maximise my grades and get into a relevant work experience

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    Ok, if you have a job would you be able to juggle between working and studying? It is a realistic consideration because as part of your clinical years at Leicester, you will be sent to outlying areas - as far as Boston (Lincolnshire), Lincoln, Burton-upon-Trent, Northampton and Kettering etc.

    Finally, perhaps it is worth calling up Leicester Med School and asking preliminary questions like the ones you have posed here, if you only must apply to Leicester. It is also worth considering that with Medicine being a very competitive subject, having all your eggs in one basket (i.e. just applying to one place) may lead to disappointment.
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    (Original post by Jessica2020)
    Hi I definitely will be able to get part time hours and would definitely be able to study and prioritise my dreams and education more.

    I did email one or the dr admissions tutor and all I’ve been told is to check the entry requirements but I will be calling the university up and explain my situation and see if there would be any more options but I doubt it as Medicine in University of Leicester is very competitive and I’m pretty sure the students would have high qualifications and I probably wouldn’t wouldn’t stand a chance against them. So to avoid disappointment my best option is to maximise my grades and get into a relevant work experience
    Yes you have my full support and seeing as you are not a resit A-Level student you will "only" need to aim for AAA at A-Levels, and that is Biology, Chemistry and another subject. I would choose this last subject very carefully. It is probably better to double check with the admissions team (not the tutor) to clarify although I feel that A-Levels is the qualification you'll need.

    However, thinking realistically even with AAA you may still not get into Leicester (or any medical school) so you will need to be mentally prepared and ask yourself, will I be applying to just one med school in 2020 (or when you can finish your A-Levels) or more (you are allowed to apply to four in one UCAS application). Finally is achieving AAA at A-Level realistic and possible? How did you do at GCSEs / science subjects when you were at school? Finally you will also need to juggle getting work experience and UKCAT.
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    Definitely understand. I will most likely have to apply for more university’s around me such as cov etc. i gained a C in science, English and maths.

    I also gained a B in additional science but I’m not sure if that’s even considered a GCSE? I did ask the tutor if that’s even considered one but he wasn’t very informative and just said to check the entry requirements so I’m kind of stuck.

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    Yes you have my full support and seeing as you are not a resit A-Level student you will "only" need to aim for AAA at A-Levels, and that is Biology, Chemistry and another subject. I would choose this last subject very carefully. It is probably better to double check with the admissions team (not the tutor) to clarify although I feel that A-Levels is the qualification you'll need.

    However, thinking realistically even with AAA you may still not get into Leicester (or any medical school) so you will need to be mentally prepared and ask yourself, will I be applying to just one med school in 2020 (or when you can finish your A-Levels) or more (you are allowed to apply to four in one UCAS application). Finally is achieving AAA at A-Level realistic and possible? How did you do at GCSEs / science subjects when you were at school? Finally you will also need to juggle getting work experience and UKCAT.
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    (Original post by Jessica2020)
    Definitely understand. I will most likely have to apply for more university’s around me such as cov etc. i gained a C in science, English and maths.

    I also gained a B in additional science but I’m not sure if that’s even considered a GCSE? I did ask the tutor if that’s even considered one but he wasn’t very informative and just said to check the entry requirements so I’m kind of stuck.
    This is what Leicester says on their "Scoring of Applications for 2018 entry" - it will likely be very similar for your year of entry in 2/3 years' time.

    All candidates: GCSE Grade B in English Language, Maths and 2 sciences (biology and chemistry, or double science) achieved at first sitting unless significant mitigating circumstances that have been previously accepted by the admissions tutors.

    Access Applicants: Please ensure you have also read our entry requirements. We will not consider Access to Medicine courses from students who could have undertaken A levels (ie school leavers), nor in lieu of poor science A-level results, nor poor A-level results in graduate applicants.

    Also Coventry doesn't offer Medicine courses as far as I know. The nearest would be Nottingham.

    Also, looking at Access to Medicine you may be eligible to take that as a route, but it would still need you have had had a B in English in GCSE. Have you explained to them about your Grade C in English, it may be that you will not be considered if not...
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    My main concern would be a) as I went straight into a btec in art and design they would question why I didn’t take my a levels which would be problem number one.

    B) the access to medicine courses are not located in Leicester either and I believe only some of the major cities do this course.

    I haven’t mentioned my English c in Gcse and to be quite honest I didn’t get a very informative answer and was told twice to have a look at the entry requirements.

    I have explained I’m a mature student and what other possible pathways I could take to meet these entry requirements but I think I may have to call and ask to speak to someone who would be able to help me with this. But I also know that being a mature student my application and grades would have to be superior just like every other applicant as they would not be lenient towards me because of my age, even though at this stage of my life I don’t have time to mess around with choosing a degree like medicine!




    (Original post by ecolier)
    This is what Leicester says on their "Scoring of Applications for 2018 entry" - it will likely be very similar for your year of entry in 2/3 years' time.

    All candidates: GCSE Grade B in English Language, Maths and 2 sciences (biology and chemistry, or double science) achieved at first sitting unless significant mitigating circumstances that have been previously accepted by the admissions tutors.

    Access Applicants: Please ensure you have also read our entry requirements. We will not consider Access to Medicine courses from students who could have undertaken A levels (ie school leavers), nor in lieu of poor science A-level results, nor poor A-level results in graduate applicants.

    Also Coventry doesn't offer Medicine courses as far as I know. The nearest would be Nottingham.

    Also, looking at Access to Medicine you may be eligible to take that as a route, but it would still need you have had had a B in English in GCSE. Have you explained to them about your Grade C in English, it may be that you will not be considered if not...
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    (Original post by Jessica2020)
    My main concern...
    Your main concern should be your Grade C in English - make sure you mention this as they have specifically stated that for all applicants. There is currently a thread on the "Medicine" section of this forum for a potential applicant with C in GCSE English. I think the general advice given to for them to retake that subject. So you w
    ould have to factor that in too - not just A-Levels but GCSE English.

    If you are only going to be staying in Leicester, then the option would be to take A-Levels (you will need AAA) and resit your English GCSE, while getting some work experience and preparing for UKCAT. This is while you are also working part time... slightly unrealistic in my opinion. However if maybe you are only working once every several nights, or several weekends then maybe it is possible? You will need to be very determined.
 
 
 
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