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RAF Medical Appeal - 2nd Attempt
Hi,
I'm wondering If I can get some advice about this. Essentially I applied to join the RAF in January in ATC (Officer), and I initially passed my filter interview and aptitude tests (cleared for all roles mind you). I knew my biggest hurdle was going to be the medical as I was previously sick when I was 16. Im 23 now and I have been symptom free for -many- years. When I had my capita medical I was given a TMU status and after they looked over my notes they declared me P8 (Perma Unfit) Now naturally I was abit upset by this but in the letter I received by capita the doctor has written "Should he wish to appeal he would need to provide up-to-date evidence, from a specialist rheumatologist, describing his current state of health, the likelihood of the presence of any side effects that may have occurred as a result of his treatment, and the probability of relapse of his condition."
So, I naturally went out and saw a private rheumatologist . even going as far as getting a complete medical assessment and blood work. And although naturally doctors can never dispute a diagnoses I had 8 years ago, he wrote in his report I was fit for military service. This report along with other information (I did 2 years with the Army Reserve, so I produced that evidence aswell) was sent to Cranwell for my appeal. In total I think I gave them about 15 pages worth of medical jargon and they back to me with a one paragraph letter, stating they were unable to uphold my appeal stating JSP950 in their correspondence.
Now personally I was really annoyed now as It felt they didn't look at the evidence I provided (even spelling my name wrong on the letter i had received.) In doing so I have launched a second appeal as it states in JSP950 "Candidates who have been disease and symptom-free for a minimum of 2 years, with no evidence of joint damage or systemic disease, with activity comparable with military training for 3 months, may be suitable for entry subject to referral to sS Occupational Physician responsible for selection of recruits." Aswell as Ap1269 which also states I should be referred.
I know its unlikely none of you guys are medical professionals, but general advice is appreciated. I think I have more then met the requirements and criteria they have asked for. Has anyone else been in this position? am I in the right to make a second appeal? Is a third one worth doing so with the support of say local government (quite close with my local MP) worth doing?
I'm wondering If I can get some advice about this. Essentially I applied to join the RAF in January in ATC (Officer), and I initially passed my filter interview and aptitude tests (cleared for all roles mind you). I knew my biggest hurdle was going to be the medical as I was previously sick when I was 16. Im 23 now and I have been symptom free for -many- years. When I had my capita medical I was given a TMU status and after they looked over my notes they declared me P8 (Perma Unfit) Now naturally I was abit upset by this but in the letter I received by capita the doctor has written "Should he wish to appeal he would need to provide up-to-date evidence, from a specialist rheumatologist, describing his current state of health, the likelihood of the presence of any side effects that may have occurred as a result of his treatment, and the probability of relapse of his condition."
So, I naturally went out and saw a private rheumatologist . even going as far as getting a complete medical assessment and blood work. And although naturally doctors can never dispute a diagnoses I had 8 years ago, he wrote in his report I was fit for military service. This report along with other information (I did 2 years with the Army Reserve, so I produced that evidence aswell) was sent to Cranwell for my appeal. In total I think I gave them about 15 pages worth of medical jargon and they back to me with a one paragraph letter, stating they were unable to uphold my appeal stating JSP950 in their correspondence.
Now personally I was really annoyed now as It felt they didn't look at the evidence I provided (even spelling my name wrong on the letter i had received.) In doing so I have launched a second appeal as it states in JSP950 "Candidates who have been disease and symptom-free for a minimum of 2 years, with no evidence of joint damage or systemic disease, with activity comparable with military training for 3 months, may be suitable for entry subject to referral to sS Occupational Physician responsible for selection of recruits." Aswell as Ap1269 which also states I should be referred.
I know its unlikely none of you guys are medical professionals, but general advice is appreciated. I think I have more then met the requirements and criteria they have asked for. Has anyone else been in this position? am I in the right to make a second appeal? Is a third one worth doing so with the support of say local government (quite close with my local MP) worth doing?
Original post by Helghy
Hi,
I'm wondering If I can get some advice about this. Essentially I applied to join the RAF in January in ATC (Officer), and I initially passed my filter interview and aptitude tests (cleared for all roles mind you). I knew my biggest hurdle was going to be the medical as I was previously sick when I was 16. Im 23 now and I have been symptom free for -many- years. When I had my capita medical I was given a TMU status and after they looked over my notes they declared me P8 (Perma Unfit) Now naturally I was abit upset by this but in the letter I received by capita the doctor has written "Should he wish to appeal he would need to provide up-to-date evidence, from a specialist rheumatologist, describing his current state of health, the likelihood of the presence of any side effects that may have occurred as a result of his treatment, and the probability of relapse of his condition."
So, I naturally went out and saw a private rheumatologist . even going as far as getting a complete medical assessment and blood work. And although naturally doctors can never dispute a diagnoses I had 8 years ago, he wrote in his report I was fit for military service. This report along with other information (I did 2 years with the Army Reserve, so I produced that evidence aswell) was sent to Cranwell for my appeal. In total I think I gave them about 15 pages worth of medical jargon and they back to me with a one paragraph letter, stating they were unable to uphold my appeal stating JSP950 in their correspondence.
Now personally I was really annoyed now as It felt they didn't look at the evidence I provided (even spelling my name wrong on the letter i had received.) In doing so I have launched a second appeal as it states in JSP950 "Candidates who have been disease and symptom-free for a minimum of 2 years, with no evidence of joint damage or systemic disease, with activity comparable with military training for 3 months, may be suitable for entry subject to referral to sS Occupational Physician responsible for selection of recruits." Aswell as Ap1269 which also states I should be referred.
I know its unlikely none of you guys are medical professionals, but general advice is appreciated. I think I have more then met the requirements and criteria they have asked for. Has anyone else been in this position? am I in the right to make a second appeal? Is a third one worth doing so with the support of say local government (quite close with my local MP) worth doing?
I'm wondering If I can get some advice about this. Essentially I applied to join the RAF in January in ATC (Officer), and I initially passed my filter interview and aptitude tests (cleared for all roles mind you). I knew my biggest hurdle was going to be the medical as I was previously sick when I was 16. Im 23 now and I have been symptom free for -many- years. When I had my capita medical I was given a TMU status and after they looked over my notes they declared me P8 (Perma Unfit) Now naturally I was abit upset by this but in the letter I received by capita the doctor has written "Should he wish to appeal he would need to provide up-to-date evidence, from a specialist rheumatologist, describing his current state of health, the likelihood of the presence of any side effects that may have occurred as a result of his treatment, and the probability of relapse of his condition."
So, I naturally went out and saw a private rheumatologist . even going as far as getting a complete medical assessment and blood work. And although naturally doctors can never dispute a diagnoses I had 8 years ago, he wrote in his report I was fit for military service. This report along with other information (I did 2 years with the Army Reserve, so I produced that evidence aswell) was sent to Cranwell for my appeal. In total I think I gave them about 15 pages worth of medical jargon and they back to me with a one paragraph letter, stating they were unable to uphold my appeal stating JSP950 in their correspondence.
Now personally I was really annoyed now as It felt they didn't look at the evidence I provided (even spelling my name wrong on the letter i had received.) In doing so I have launched a second appeal as it states in JSP950 "Candidates who have been disease and symptom-free for a minimum of 2 years, with no evidence of joint damage or systemic disease, with activity comparable with military training for 3 months, may be suitable for entry subject to referral to sS Occupational Physician responsible for selection of recruits." Aswell as Ap1269 which also states I should be referred.
I know its unlikely none of you guys are medical professionals, but general advice is appreciated. I think I have more then met the requirements and criteria they have asked for. Has anyone else been in this position? am I in the right to make a second appeal? Is a third one worth doing so with the support of say local government (quite close with my local MP) worth doing?
Hi,
Firstly, I can't even imagine how you must feel. I was pushed back for 2 months, but managed to provide the CMO at Capita with enough information to get the long awaited P2 status.
What have the medical cell at Cranwell advised that you do? If I were in your position, I would appeal again stating what you've mentioned above (JSP950 etc..). I don't know what condition you have and I wouldn't comment on it, even if you did, but I'd also think about providing a clear breakdown of the fitness training you've been doing.
I can't imagine that a local MP would get involved in a medical matter.
I wish you all the best in trying to overcome this hurdle!
I've called the RAF careers and managed to get a internal investigation going, as the letter I had initially received by cranwell was poor and essentially gave the impression that I had been passed off. I scanned them over what I had received and what I had sent, and they were shoked at the poor conditionn of the rejection letter I had received (grammar, spelling, and essentially just a mirror copy of my capita leter). My second appeal is going through, and I'm going to my local MP as she is on various committees which I would assume would help, but overall just to get advice from a third party to be honest. I truly believe that with the stuff they have asked for I have more then given them what they wanted, so I should be in for a shot
***UPDATE***
I received a letter dated the 25/11/17 in which the President of the Medical Board has acknowledged the extensive evidence I have provided and has therefore referred my case to a Service Rhemuatologist at Headly Court.
Today I received a new letter that stated I had satisfied the criteria asked of me, therefore my Medical Appeal has been UPHELD!
I received a letter dated the 25/11/17 in which the President of the Medical Board has acknowledged the extensive evidence I have provided and has therefore referred my case to a Service Rhemuatologist at Headly Court.
Today I received a new letter that stated I had satisfied the criteria asked of me, therefore my Medical Appeal has been UPHELD!
Original post by Helghy
***UPDATE***
I received a letter dated the 25/11/17 in which the President of the Medical Board has acknowledged the extensive evidence I have provided and has therefore referred my case to a Service Rhemuatologist at Headly Court.
Today I received a new letter that stated I had satisfied the criteria asked of me, therefore my Medical Appeal has been UPHELD!
I received a letter dated the 25/11/17 in which the President of the Medical Board has acknowledged the extensive evidence I have provided and has therefore referred my case to a Service Rhemuatologist at Headly Court.
Today I received a new letter that stated I had satisfied the criteria asked of me, therefore my Medical Appeal has been UPHELD!
Congratulations mate! Finally can move onto OASC!
Original post by Helghy
***UPDATE***
I received a letter dated the 25/11/17 in which the President of the Medical Board has acknowledged the extensive evidence I have provided and has therefore referred my case to a Service Rhemuatologist at Headly Court.
Today I received a new letter that stated I had satisfied the criteria asked of me, therefore my Medical Appeal has been UPHELD!
I received a letter dated the 25/11/17 in which the President of the Medical Board has acknowledged the extensive evidence I have provided and has therefore referred my case to a Service Rhemuatologist at Headly Court.
Today I received a new letter that stated I had satisfied the criteria asked of me, therefore my Medical Appeal has been UPHELD!
Fantastic, congrats
Hi, I’m going through a similar thing with the army reserves, Iv passed all tests and had my interview even started drill nights and have been attending for nearly 3 months, I have done my second appeal with the help of my doctor who basically read the medically unfit letter and laughed, and did a report to say I was fit for duty. But was still declined, even though I had basically cleared up exactly what they had asked of me. So felt like you, that they hadn’t looked at the evidence ! I’m now waiting for my private consultancy appointment so going in for the second appeal, I’m taking it as far as I can as it’s unfair, almost feel like it was a conspiracy against me.
Good of luck and if I was you I’d use any source that you have available.
good luck
tracey
P.s make sure you make a copy of what you send so you can back it up if you end up having to go to Occupational health.
Fingers crossed
I'm wondering If I can get some advice about this. Essentially I applied to join the RAF in January in ATC (Officer), and I initially passed my filter interview and aptitude tests (cleared for all roles mind you). I knew my biggest hurdle was going to be the medical as I was previously sick when I was 16. Im 23 now and I have been symptom free for -many- years. When I had my capita medical I was given a TMU status and after they looked over my notes they declared me P8 (Perma Unfit) Now naturally I was abit upset by this but in the letter I received by capita the doctor has written "Should he wish to appeal he would need to provide up-to-date evidence, from a specialist rheumatologist, describing his current state of health, the likelihood of the presence of any side effects that may have occurred as a result of his treatment, and the probability of relapse of his condition."
So, I naturally went out and saw a private rheumatologist . even going as far as getting a complete medical assessment and blood work. And although naturally doctors can never dispute a diagnoses I had 8 years ago, he wrote in his report I was fit for military service. This report along with other information (I did 2 years with the Army Reserve, so I produced that evidence aswell) was sent to Cranwell for my appeal. In total I think I gave them about 15 pages worth of medical jargon and they back to me with a one paragraph letter, stating they were unable to uphold my appeal stating JSP950 in their correspondence.
Good of luck and if I was you I’d use any source that you have available.
good luck
tracey
P.s make sure you make a copy of what you send so you can back it up if you end up having to go to Occupational health.
Fingers crossed
I'm wondering If I can get some advice about this. Essentially I applied to join the RAF in January in ATC (Officer), and I initially passed my filter interview and aptitude tests (cleared for all roles mind you). I knew my biggest hurdle was going to be the medical as I was previously sick when I was 16. Im 23 now and I have been symptom free for -many- years. When I had my capita medical I was given a TMU status and after they looked over my notes they declared me P8 (Perma Unfit) Now naturally I was abit upset by this but in the letter I received by capita the doctor has written "Should he wish to appeal he would need to provide up-to-date evidence, from a specialist rheumatologist, describing his current state of health, the likelihood of the presence of any side effects that may have occurred as a result of his treatment, and the probability of relapse of his condition."
So, I naturally went out and saw a private rheumatologist . even going as far as getting a complete medical assessment and blood work. And although naturally doctors can never dispute a diagnoses I had 8 years ago, he wrote in his report I was fit for military service. This report along with other information (I did 2 years with the Army Reserve, so I produced that evidence aswell) was sent to Cranwell for my appeal. In total I think I gave them about 15 pages worth of medical jargon and they back to me with a one paragraph letter, stating they were unable to uphold my appeal stating JSP950 in their correspondence.
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