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    My mocks were today and I know I had done terribly in my maths exam probably below a pass because I didn't attempt most questions because it was so hard and my teacher didn't teach it to me. Do mocks really matter?
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    (Original post by HannahA2745)
    My mocks were today and I know I had done terribly in my maths exam probably below a pass because I didn't attempt most questions because it was so hard and my teacher didn't teach it to me. Do mocks really matter?
    Your school might use them to generate a set of predicted grades for your sixth form/college application.
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    They are helpful if you revise for them, so you can get revision resources made etc but there not too important!
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    (Original post by HannahA2745)
    My mocks were today and I know I had done terribly in my maths exam probably below a pass because I didn't attempt most questions because it was so hard and my teacher didn't teach it to me. Do mocks really matter?
    If this is your last set of mocks, then they matter a bit. They won't affect your final grades at all. However, they have a strong bearing on your predicted grades. Now, if you didn't do great in these mocks but demonstrated to your teachers that you're doing well (through other mocks, small tests or class work), your teachers may treat them as an outlier and your predicted grades may not be affected. But if you get a bad set of predicted grades, it may be harder to get into the sixth form courses that you want to.
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    (Original post by HannahA2745)
    My mocks were today and I know I had done terribly in my maths exam probably below a pass because I didn't attempt most questions because it was so hard and my teacher didn't teach it to me. Do mocks really matter?
    was this the autumn mock of 2017 for edexcel maths?
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    (Original post by Sammyboy1234)
    was this the autumn mock of 2017 for edexcel maths?
    yes! it was so hard and I was so upset.
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    (Original post by TheMindGarage)
    If this is your last set of mocks, then they matter a bit. They won't affect your final grades at all. However, they have a strong bearing on your predicted grades. Now, if you didn't do great in these mocks but demonstrated to your teachers that you're doing well (through other mocks, small tests or class work), your teachers may treat them as an outlier and your predicted grades may not be affected. But if you get a bad set of predicted grades, it may be harder to get into the sixth form courses that you want to.
    This is total rubbish. They use your actual results for college predictions. And so does the Fischer Trust when they predict A-Level results. GCSE mocks are immediately rendered worthless when you receive your final exam grade. If you skip the GCSE exam for a good reason however, that’s a different story. They might use it to predict a grade that the exam board will award you.
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    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    This is total rubbish. They use your actual results for college predictions. And so does the Fischer Trust when they predict A-Level results. GCSE mocks are immediately rendered worthless when you receive your final exam grade. If you skip the GCSE exam for a good reason however, that’s a different story. They might use it to predict a grade that the exam board will award you.
    If anything's total rubbish, it's what you've said. How can a secondary school give predicted GCSE grade to colleges before the actual exam?

    Of course the real GCSE grades aren't affected one bit by the mocks. But the mocks are the best data the school has to give predicted grades, at least until exam results day (which is far later than these predicted grades are issued).
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    (Original post by TheMindGarage)
    If anything's total rubbish, it's what you've said. How can a secondary school give predicted GCSE grade to colleges before the actual exam?

    Of course the real GCSE grades aren't affected one bit by the mocks. But the mocks are the best data the school has to give predicted grades, at least until exam results day (which is far later than these predicted grades are issued).
    You realise that you have A-Levels between GCSE and uni applications? You’re not applying to uni with GCSE’s. Please learn about the education system.
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    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    You realise that you have A-Levels between GCSE and uni applications? You’re not applying to uni with GCSE’s. Please learn about the education system.
    I'm talking about predicted grades for sixth-form, not predicted grades for unis. Please note that this thread is in the GCSE sub-forum, so it should be obvious.
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    (Original post by TheMindGarage)
    I'm talking about predicted grades for sixth-form, not predicted grades for unis. Please note that this thread is in the GCSE sub-forum, so it should be obvious.
    If you’re aiming to remain in your current sixth form. Only final GCSE grades matter. Even if you’re applying for a different one they will judge who enters based on final results because people do over and underperform sometimes.
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    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    If you’re aiming to remain in your current sixth form. Only final GCSE grades matter. Even if you’re applying for a different one they will judge who enters based on final results because people do over and underperform sometimes.
    Of course they almost certainly won't instantly reject people based on predicted grades, but if they aren't high enough to get onto a certain course, it may not be easy to get onto the taster day course.
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    They are helpful to show you what you need to work on for the real exams and usually you have done a lot better than you think
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    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    This is total rubbish. They use your actual results for college predictions
    The poster was referring to applications for 6th form, which are made before the GCSE results are available.

    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    If you skip the GCSE exam for a good reason however, that’s a different story. They might use it to predict a grade that the exam board will award you.
    They don't.
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    (Original post by Compost)
    The poster was referring to applications for 6th form, which are made before the GCSE results are available.


    They don't.
    "They don't" erm excuse me I was given an entire assembly by the exam officer and this WAS the case. A previous student missed 2 weeks of exams due to ecoli and was awarded GCSE's in the missed subjects anyway based on past performance and predictions.
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    It depends if your in school or college.

    Both will use them to predict your pass mark for the actual exam, so if for some reasons you don't get that mark they have a good case to put you forward for a remark.

    In college it really doesn't matter that much as long as you are putting your homework in to show you are improving over time, and thus the teacher is happy for you to go into the exam. However, in some schools they wont put you into the exam unless you pass the mock, well they did in my day but that was a far while ago, hopefully it's changed now.

    One thing to note is I went up a grade between mock and exam, as did some others in my class.

    It does give you a good idea on what to expect from the exam and you can now revise harder to make sure you sail through it later on.
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    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    "They don't" erm excuse me I was given an entire assembly by the exam officer and this WAS the case. A previous student missed 2 weeks of exams due to ecoli and was awarded GCSE's in the missed subjects anyway based on past performance and predictions.
    It was the case until about 12 years ago, but not since. Grades awarded when a student is absent are not based on the school's predictions - they're not even sent to the exam boards and haven't been for about 5 years - but on how the student has done in the other elements of the qualifications he has missed. How do I know? I am an exam officer.
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    (Original post by Compost)
    It was the case until about 12 years ago, but not since. Grades awarded when a student is absent are not based on the school's predictions - they're not even sent to the exam boards and haven't been for about 5 years - but on how the student has done in the other elements of the qualifications he has missed. How do I know? I am an exam officer.
    So I must have been mislead. What do you mean by other elements - you mean like the ISA? I assume coursework can’t be considered that since it’s been abolished in humanities like geography.
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    (Original post by HannahA2745)
    My mocks were today and I know I had done terribly in my maths exam probably below a pass because I didn't attempt most questions because it was so hard and my teacher didn't teach it to me. Do mocks really matter?
    Nope. Honestly no...EXACTLY THIS TIME a year ago i was in your position my friend. In my mocks i got D's,C's, grade 3 in English...basically overall i did preeeettyyy bad. I even failed ART...how? Like how did i even fail an Art Mock?

    Anyway it feels pretty bad BUT use this to motivate you! You can do well - on the 24th of August i opened my results to see Grade 8s, a Grade 7, A's A*s' and a couple B's. Honestly I really WANT you to do well because i KNOW EXACTLY how you feel.

    I remember...my head hurt, i didn't want to tell any of my friends what i got, i didn't want to tell my family - no one because they were trash. Put in the effort even if it means 4AM wake ups to revise or revising from 12AM to 7AM in the morning. Work hard and sacrifice it. Success is sweet...trust me its worth it in the end

    You got it! Plenty of time to turn the tables!
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    (Original post by VirgoStrain)
    So I must have been mislead. What do you mean by other elements - you mean like the ISA? I assume coursework can’t be considered that since it’s been abolished in humanities like geography.
    The other elements are exams in that subject the student hasn't missed and coursework (if there is any). If you miss it all then they won't give you a grade unless (bizarrely) you are dead.
 
 
 
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