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Leader - Hazzer1998
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The Rt Hon Hazzer1998 MP

This is the place to ask members of the TSR Democrats(Formerly the TSR Green Party) questions about the party, policy or the house in general.
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I've got misgivings about this. I don't really see why the House needs yet another right-wing party.
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I see the hostile takeover of the Greens is complete. Based on the name I assume you are targeting left wing members?

What are your policies?
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I am pleased to announce my candidacy for deputy leader of the democrats, a new radical centrist alternative for the house (in spite of what ever fake news cranbrook_aspie has been peddling) this rebrand and change of direction was approved by the green membership in a vote, it is NOT a “hostile takeover”...
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Has the Speakership approved this? If so I'm disappointed. The Democrats are clearly not just a re-branded Green Party and should have to meet the new party requirements which they obviously don't. Rakas21
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(Original post by Connor27)
I am pleased to announce my candidacy for deputy leader of the democrats, a new radical centrist alternative for the house (in spite of what ever fake news cranbrook_aspie has been peddling) this rebrand and change of direction was approved by the green membership in a vote, it is NOT a “hostile takeover”...
I don't think I'm the one peddling the fake news here...
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(Original post by Saoirse:3)
Has the Speakership approved this? If so I'm disappointed. The Democrats are clearly not just a re-branded Green Party and should have to meet the new party requirements which they obviously don't. Rakas21
We are a rebranded Green Party and I can confirm Rakas approved this in the subforum. He can confirm that himself here.

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(Original post by Saoirse:3)
Has the Speakership approved this? If so I'm disappointed. The Democrats are clearly not just a re-branded Green Party and should have to meet the new party requirements which they obviously don't. Rakas21
I would second this. If the Green party ceases to be, and if the members of that party want to create this new party then I have no issue with that, but this is too significant a change to be considered a rebranding of the existing Green party.
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(Original post by mr T 999)
I see the hostile takeover of the Greens is complete. Based on the name I assume you are targeting left wing members?

What are your policies?
We are centre, socially liberal party with polices that represent the best of the left and the right wing. A full manifesto will be released soon.

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Has the Speakership approved this? If so I'm disappointed. The Democrats are clearly not just a re-branded Green Party and should have to meet the new party requirements which they obviously don't. Rakas21
The Speaker has indeed approved this.
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I don't think I'm the one peddling the fake news here...
I'm Afraid to say you are. The membership back all proposals. as you are DS you can see that for yourself.
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(Original post by Hazzer1998)
I'm Afraid to say you are. The membership back all proposals. as you are DS you can see that for yourself.
I did not say that the membership did not back the proposals.
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(Original post by Saoirse:3)
Has the Speakership approved this? If so I'm disappointed. The Democrats are clearly not just a re-branded Green Party and should have to meet the new party requirements which they obviously don't. Rakas21
The lib dems rebranded as liberals, don't see why it's not any different to what the greens are doing.
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(Original post by Hazzer1998)
We are centre, socially liberal party with polices that represent the best of the left and the right wing. A full manifesto will be released soon.
What makes this new party different from the current centre socially liberal party we have?
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(Original post by mr T 999)
The lib dems rebranded as liberals, don't see why it's not any different to what the greens are doing.
That is a much smaller change than taking a party that voters will associate with far left and environmental views and turning it into a centre ground party. The Liberals took one word out of their name and kept the political position they are associated with.
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(Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
I did not say that the membership did not back the proposals.
Then you would know that this is'nt a hostile takeover.
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What makes this new party different from the current centre socially liberal party we have?
The Liberals aren’t a real centrist party, they have some centrist members but the leader and most of the parliamentary party are Centre-left, Labour-lite, social democrats who were willing to jump into bed with communists to get a taste of government.

We would be a truly RADICAL centrist party that actually cares about moderate, centrist principles rather than going where the wind blows like the #FakeCentrists
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(Original post by Hazzer1998)
Then you would know that this is'nt a hostile takeover.
There is currently no active membership of the Green Party, sorry, 'Democrats', that did not join as a result of the hostile takeover. The party was dead and should have been shut down.
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(Original post by Connor27)
The Liberals aren’t a real centrist party, they have some centrist members but the leader and most of the parliamentary party are Centre-left, Labour-lite, social democrats who were willing to jump into bed with communists to get a taste of government.

We would be a truly RADICAL centrist party that actually cares about moderate, centrist principles rather than going where the wind blows like the #FakeCentrists
That is unfair. We are currently in a coalition with parties that are radically different to our own views. That means that Liberal members sometimes find themselves defending policies that are to the left of their own views. Similarly, if we were in a coalition with the Tories and libers we would sound a lot more right-wing than may otherwise seem. Government is about collective responsibility. I wasn't involved in the last election but looking at the numbers it seems that our party had a choice between being outside of a far-left government or being inside a centre-left government with the power to help pull it to the right a bit. I think my party made the right choice.

Other than out-centering the current central party do you have any other differences to offer?
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(Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
There is currently no active membership of the Green Party, sorry, 'Democrats', that did not join as a result of the hostile takeover. The party was dead and should have been shut down.
Personally, I blame the speakers who have put effort into keeping the Greens going. My old party should have been shut down as soon as it became apparent that it was no longer active rather than posts deliberately made in the forum to maintain it. This shows the dangers of allowing an old party to continue on.

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