Why does Cambridge have more mature colleges than Oxford?

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Also why does Cambridge have women only colleges?
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Why do you care?
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Also why does Cambridge have women only colleges?
the presence of males would distract the ladies from their studies.
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Why do you care?
It's not really something I care about, but isn't there more help for matures and female students at Cambridge? So it would be easier to be a girl or mature and get accepted into Cambridge?
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Also why does Cambridge have women only colleges?
Cambridge (and Oxford) aims to cater for different demographics. They are aware that certain college communities suit different people. It would be a shame to put a mature student, who wants to engage with other mature colleagues with 18 or 19 year olds, who might not be able to relate to a more matured lifestyle.

For women-only Colleges, i think this was a strategic move to ensure that more women have a chance at gaining a Cambridge education without inherent gender biases in application. This, to me, is positive discrimination since more men are admitted to other Cambridge colleges.
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It's not really something I care about, but isn't there more help for matures and female students at Cambridge? So it would be easier to be a girl or mature and get accepted into Cambridge?
They are all little things, dw.
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[QUOTE=Wired_1800;74461710]Cambridge (and Oxford) aims to cater for different demographics. They are aware that certain college communities suit different people. It would be a shame to put a mature student, who wants to engage with other mature colleagues with 18 or 19 year olds, who might not be able to relate to a more matured lifestyle.

I get that, and i totally support mature only colleges. However, why does Cambridge have more? Even if they are aiming to cater to different communities, shouldn't Oxford also have more than one mature college ? Is there any history behind this?

Similarly to help with positive discrimination shouldn't oxford also have female-only colleges?

the main point could also be this: is is easier to be a mature or female student at Cambridge than Oxford?
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(Original post by Wired_1800)
Cambridge (and Oxford) aims to cater for different demographics. They are aware that certain college communities suit different people. It would be a shame to put a mature student, who wants to engage with other mature colleagues with 18 or 19 year olds, who might not be able to relate to a more matured lifestyle.

I get that, and i totally support mature only colleges. However, why does Cambridge have more? Even if they are aiming to cater to different communities, shouldn't Oxford also have more than one mature college ? Is there any history behind this?

Similarly to help with positive discrimination shouldn't oxford also have female-only colleges?

the main point could also be this: is is easier to be a mature or female student at Cambridge than Oxford?
You would have to look up the statistics to ascertain whether it is easier.

Cambridge is very different to Oxford, so only Oxford knows why they have the Colleges set up in that way.

Cambridge seems to want to admit students from different demographics rather than just have a tick-box exercise. Hence why they have more of different colleges, I guess
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The average age of first years at a mature (21+) college is about..... 21 iirc. Possibly 22.

Standard age colleges can have mature students, and they also have plenty of postgrads (ie. 21+).

Matures colleges aren't really that much different, although they do tend to be less "traditional" than many standard age colleges.

They *are* more used to dealing with less typical entry requirements though. So things like Access to HE, etc.

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Also why does Cambridge have women only colleges?
Colleges are independent institutions, separate from the University, but working together under a 'gentleman's agreement' type arrangement. Colleges have their own funding and are charities in their own right. To found a College you need a) and agreement with the University that it needs and wants a new College (because though separate, the College needs to work in partnership with the uni where its students will be educated) and b) a socking great endowment.

In the mid-20th century (I haven't checked exact foundation dates) Oxford either couldn't find the philanthropic donations, or made the strategic decision to go for 'mixed college' solutions to the growth in female and mature students, whereas Cambridge had the will and the donors to start new female only and mature Colleges. Just a different strategy. But as the Colleges are charities with their own charitable objects, the university has no say in whether they limit their student body by gender or age and so has no control over whether they change.

I don't believe the demographic is markedly different between Oxford and Cambridge, simply Cambridge has a bit more segregation because of the mature and women's Colleges - obviously the co-ed Colleges tend to have slightly more than 50% male students. It is worth noting that there are a large number of students in the women's Colleges at Cambridge that are there because of parental pressure, ie though the student is fully 'integrated' their parents aren't and wouldn't have let them attend a co-ed College.
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Colleges are independent institutions, separate from the University, but working together under a 'gentleman's agreement' type arrangement. Colleges have their own funding and are charities in their own right. To found a College you need a) and agreement with the University that it needs and wants a new College (because though separate, the College needs to work in partnership with the uni where its students will be educated) and b) a socking great endowment.
So do you mean by that, anybody can open a Cambridge college if they have the right amount of money?
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So do you mean by that, anybody can open a Cambridge college if they have the right amount of money?
The University would have to agree to allowing the College to send students to the University, which would require the University to have the capacity in its services and academic resources etc. Then where would you find the space in Cambridge to build a College etc, but very broadly yes. Look at the history of Murray Edwards, Wolfson etc.
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