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Reply 60

L i b
No, you have and do.



Why? I'll imagine it boils down to prejudice.



Most people eat the food they buy.



It's probably just confidence. You sound quite insecure.


Ta for the disection... but no I disagree.

And most people who come in to the shop who carry themselves in that snobby way expect you to wait on them hand and foot.

Labourer = Non-snobby person... generalising a bit:

I'm yet to meet a labourer who's come in moan about the heat of their drink - usually because it's fine. I'm yet to have a labourer moan at me because the till wasn't quite fast enough for him. I'm yet to have a labourer moan at me because I didn't give him a bag for a M&S 3 pack walnut whip. I'm yet to have a labourer blame me because a
pre-packed pasta salad hasn't enough salad in it.
Seriously, this stuff happens. And for some reason those who appear to carry themselves higher than the 'labourer' are the ones to point these little foibles out. It's annoying. And whilst doing so they certainly look down upon you.

But mainly it's probably old people too... lol

Sure it might be a bit prejudice... but oh well shoot me.

Reply 61

sour stone
Ta for the disection... but no I disagree.

And most people who come in to the shop who carry themselves in that snobby way expect you to wait on them hand and foot.

Labourer = Non-snobby person... generalising a bit:

I'm yet to meet a labourer who's come in moan about the heat of their drink - usually because it's fine. I'm yet to have a labourer moan at me because the till wasn't quite fast enough for him. I'm yet to have a labourer moan at me because I didn't give him a bag for a M&S 3 pack walnut whip. I'm yet to have a labourer blame me because a
pre-packed pasta salad hasn't enough salad in it.
Seriously, this stuff happens. And for some reason those who appear to carry themselves higher than the 'labourer' are the ones to point these little foibles out. It's annoying. And whilst doing so they certainly look down upon you.

But mainly it's probably old people too... lol

Sure it might be a bit prejudice... but oh well shoot me.

I'm yet to meet a true gentleman, or a well brought up girl - from any class background - do any of those things.

Reply 62

Gilliwoo
I'm yet to meet a true gentleman, or a well brought up girl - from any class background - do any of those things.


Unrealtime... I have... It's freaky, and quite frequent that they gripe about something wierd like that. Seriously.

Reply 63

sour stone
Unrealtime... I have... It's freaky, and quite frequent that they gripe about something wierd like that. Seriously.

Then they're just badly brought up, not necesarily snobs just because they're rich. Bad manners of that kind exist in all sectors of society from lower to upper. I used to work in a job where I dealt with clients, and, to be honest, the rudest ones were often those kinds you seem to assume would never behave like that.

Reply 64

Bad manners are a uniting factor whether you earn £100 a year or £100,000,000 a year. It's not about being 'snobby' it is about a number of people in each social class not having the good grace to behave well.

Reply 65

I guess I could perhaps agree with that, even through my own experience... I reckon I probably have over-generalised it a bit... I just hate people who act snooty and look down upon you.

Reply 66

Jennybean
I know you should write an angry letter to the editor warning them of the effects their magazine has on people who can't actually afford to replace regurgitated food with fresh supplies of caviar and paté. It was actually just really funny, there was this feature about some rich cow having a tea party (thrilling stuff) and she was talking about one of the daughters of a high society family and saying "Oh yes she's terribly funny, one day she decided to run away from home because she felt so put upon, she ended up flipping burgers in some dreadful joint somewhere in America and came home after three weeks. She said, 'I just sort of realised home was quite nice after all.' " My friend and I were like, oh how FRAHTFULLY hilarious. How are you dude, haven't seen you around in ages.


This snippet serves to show how small the upper-class is. If all they can fill their pages with is tea-parties, they must be a dying breed. And yeah, i'm cool, just too put-upon with my degree and life to be on here as much as before...

Reply 67

I say that if you are born/marry into a title, you are upper class.

Reply 68

Overground
Point One - Agreed, but this has changed hugely in the last hundred years. In fact the 'poshest' PM in recent years would be Blair. I don't think any PM in the last 100 years could be described as upper class. David Lloyd George and Harold Wilson could definetely be described as Working Class anyway..


Churchill was upper class.

Reply 69

SolInvictus
That's just Solihull.


Haha true. And Sutton Coldfield. But Solihull more, full of wannabee poshos.

Reply 70

sour stone
I guess I could perhaps agree with that, even through my own experience... I reckon I probably have over-generalised it a bit... I just hate people who act snooty and look down upon you.



But surely people from lower classes who diss the upper classes and mock their accents and privileges etc are doing the same as someone who is being 'snooty' is doing? Surely both classes are merely mocking what is unfamiliar to them?

Reply 71

sour stone

Up in the midlands everyone seems to be working class of some description. In appearence anyway.

In town centres up the midlands people will eat crisps in the street, they carry Lidl and Somerfield's bags. They wear hi-viz vests and undertake duties involving manual labour.


Where in the Midlands have you been? The Black Country? Because my area isn't like this... as for manual labour, it barely exists in this country any more. I think the South is richer, but the MIddle Classes are still probably in the majority in the Midlands.

Also eating crisps in the street?!? What on Earth is wrong with this? As long as the crisps aren't actually IN the street, that would just be dirty.

Reply 72

sour stone
that may be the case - thank you ricky gervais - but i personally wouldn't want to move up, and I'm sorta perplexed why people who are upper class want to keep that image


I'm quite perplexed as to why you seem so attached to your Pythonesque 'we lived in't 'ole in't road' image actually.

t.w.
Churchill was upper class.


Indeed he was.

Reply 73

Overground
Haha true. And Sutton Coldfield. But Solihull more, full of wannabee poshos.


Sutton Coldfield is more poshos trying to play prol. It just never seems to work once they find their gigantic camp hill/solihull school network/clique and get back into normal mode. And the worst tend to be the solihull people with fake brummy accents.

Reply 74

SolInvictus
Sutton Coldfield is more poshos trying to play prol. It just never seems to work once they find their gigantic camp hill/solihull school network/clique and get back into normal mode. And the worst tend to be the solihull people with fake brummy accents.


Yeah I know a few of these - they call themselves Brummies, yet argue vociferously that Solihull is a completely seperate town and is in no way related to where all those scuzzy Brummies live. The absolute dregs, however, are people who pronounce it 'Sole-ee-hull'

Reply 75

Nally
But surely people from lower classes who diss the upper classes and mock their accents and privileges etc are doing the same as someone who is being 'snooty' is doing? Surely both classes are merely mocking what is unfamiliar to them?


Hmm... I'm going to agree with that. You're right. Although it's different, I dislike them because they seem to insinuate being better than you. Probably I'm paranoid? :rolleyes: Maybe I'm worse for letting that get to me and having to gripe at it? Annoying when they complain though about utter crap. But fair point.

And I know they're not all like that. Just seems the ones who are likely to complain etc seem snooty and arrogant.

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And for Overground:

I live in Notts/Derbys area. In a little %%%%%%%%ty council estate run village. Most surrounding villages/towns are council run, and the nearest 'big' place is Ripley. Hardly ritzville... And labourers seem to flourish here. Maybe it's just an anomaly (sp.)

I think perhaps I over-hyped the difference of south and north classes? I agree middle/upper class prob do exist up north too, but not as prominently as in the south.

The crisps thing was cynical. Obviously.

As far as the initial question goes I still think the classes exist.

Reply 76

sour stone


And I know they're not all like that. Just seems the ones who are likely to complain etc seem snooty and arrogant.




Purely out of interest, what would you think about someone from the middle/lower class who complained? I worked in a supermarket when studying A-Levels and believe me every type of person complained. It seems as though you feel you've only ever encountered 'upper class complainers'?

Reply 77

Nally
Purely out of interest, what would you think about someone from the middle/lower class who complained? I worked in a supermarket when studying A-Levels and believe me every type of person complained. It seems as though you feel you've only ever encountered 'upper class complainers'?


I wouldn't know, because out of memory. I don't think I've ever had someone complain who hasn't been snooty...

Gimme a minute. I'll try think of one?

*thinking*

ah... one guy got pissed off because he tried to buy a film for his camera and it wouldn't fit in it. I told him before hand it couldn't be refunded if it was opened.

He moaned

"That's five quid down the pisser. I'm not coming here again..."

I said "You'll be missed..."

and he just walked off...

I thought it was normal to be pissed off at such a thing. I'd be gutted if I lost a fiver like that.

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On the other hand a bloke in a suit was on his phone on the forecourt. Seemed busniess-like and perhaps a little snooty

I told him over the tannoy thing to switch his phone off and come use it in the shop where it's safe...

He carried on talking and when he was done he came inside and rollicked me saying:

"I was making a very important call, why were you telling me to put it away..." something along them lines... I explained... He moaned... I ended up walking off, otherwise I may have ended up swearing at the prat...

I'm not making these up...

I've had a fair few like this. Infuriating...

Reply 78

sour stone
On the other hand a bloke in a suit was on his phone on the forecourt. Seemed busniess-like and perhaps a little snooty

I told him over the tannoy thing to switch his phone off and come use it in the shop where it's safe...

He carried on talking and when he was done he came inside and rollicked me saying:

"I was making a very important call, why were you telling me to put it away..." something along them lines... I explained... He moaned... I ended up walking off, otherwise I may have ended up swearing at the prat...

I'm not making these up...

I've had a fair few like this. Infuriating...

Where did this happen? I mean tannoys and stuff :confused:

Reply 79

Gilliwoo
Where did this happen? I mean tannoys and stuff :confused:


The camera film bloke was at the garage I work at home in Derbyshire...

The mobile phone guy and most other complaints happened at Popham Services. About half way between Basingstoke and Andover.

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