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    So Ive finally completed my personal statement and decided to check the length on the UCAS length checker. Turns out its too long because I have 48 lines rather than 47. I have about 3699 characters so thats alright. Do you think it will get through the system or should I shorten it?
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    (Original post by Pigeon 2)
    So Ive finally completed my personal statement and decided to check the length on the UCAS length checker. Turns out its too long because I have 48 lines rather than 47. I have about 3699 characters so thats alright. Do you think it will get through the system or should I shorten it?
    Its 48 lines or 4000 characters, which ever comes first. Unfortunately u need to shorten it
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    (Original post by Pigeon 2)
    So Ive finally completed my personal statement and decided to check the length on the UCAS length checker. Turns out its too long because I have 48 lines rather than 47. I have about 3699 characters so thats alright. Do you think it will get through the system or should I shorten it?
    It is far too long. The most important limit is the 47 line one, and you'll need a blank line between each paragraph. Ignore the 4,000 character limit. A well presented, readable PS will only have between 3,200 and 3,500 characters in it.
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    (Original post by Kayleighm18)
    Its 48 lines or 4000 characters, which ever comes first. Unfortunately u need to shorten it
    Cool. Thanks
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    It is far too long. The most important limit is the 47 line one, and you'll need a blank line between each paragraph. Ignore the 4,000 character limit. A well presented, readable PS will only have between 3,200 and 3,500 characters in it.
    you dont need a blank like inbetween each paragraph. Its a waste of lines. As long as you indent each one or make it obvious that you can write with paragraphs, then you are fine.
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    (Original post by jamesj477)
    you dont need a blank like inbetween each paragraph. Its a waste of lines. As long as you indent each one or make it obvious that you can write with paragraphs, then you are fine.
    No. Indents are automatically removed by the UCAS system, and the best way to give the person you are trying to impress a headache is to present them with a wall of text. Read my profile text for more PS advice.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    No. Indents are automatically removed by the UCAS system, and the best way to give the person you are trying to impress a headache is to present them with a wall of text. Read my profile text for more PS advice.
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    (Original post by Pigeon 2)
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    If you’re struggling to cut it down then go through one sentence at a time.

    For each sentence try removing each word and see if it still makes sense.

    We use a LOT of extra words. Particularly in PSs it’s tempting to make everything a bit vaguer/fluffier. Stripping back to your core meaning will make your statement better to read and get your points across better.
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    Doing 47 lines plus is not healthy. Go see a doctor before your heart does somersaults at Mach 3. You'll look like Jack Frost in a bakery.
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    unlike what other people have said about leaving lines inbetween paragraphs, if you cant find ways to shorten it and its all good and flows correctly then the paragraph lines dont matter.

    I sent mine off a couple of days ago with no paragraph lines as it was too long, and have received an unconditional offer from Northampton and a conditional offer from Newcastle (which has entry requirements above my predicted grades, they gave me an offer because of my PS and ref)

    If it doesnt flow nicely and you've gone for quantity rather than quality then yes it needs to be shortened, but lines between paragraphs really don't matter as much as people say they do.
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    (Original post by PQ)
    If you’re struggling to cut it down then go through one sentence at a time.

    For each sentence try removing each word and see if it still makes sense.

    We use a LOT of extra words. Particularly in PSs it’s tempting to make everything a bit vaguer/fluffier. Stripping back to your core meaning will make your statement better to read and get your points across better.
    Yea that helps a lot. I'm gonna do that now
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    (Original post by bekahh_)
    the paragraph lines dont matter.
    Your advice amounts to: I got away with it so come and join me with my head in the oven.

    Most candidates will want to get as much right in their applications as possible. A duff PS may not be fatal for everyone, especially at institutions who hold them to a lower standard and who are desperate to recruit bums on seats, but most are in the position of wanting to avoid slip-ups.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Your advice amounts to: I got away with it so come and join me with my head in the oven.

    Most candidates will want to get as much right in their applications as possible. A duff PS may not be fatal for everyone, especially at institutions who hold them to a lower standard and who are desperate to recruit bums on seats, but most are in the position of wanting to avoid slip-ups.
    My advice is advice, my tutor at school said to me that no paragraph lines is perfectly acceptable.

    Im providing a reason that in reality you can get away with it because funnily enough, admissions tutors care about the content of your PS and application more than a couple of empty lines.

    Newcastle certainly isn't a university just wanting to recruit bums on seats, my predicted grades are two grades lower than their entry requirements, its quite obvious that my offer was given to me due to the content of my personal statement and reference.

    I never said anyone had to follow my advice, but put simply, I was giving advice and experience...because that is what TSR is for.
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    (Original post by bekahh_)
    My advice is advice, my tutor at school said to me that no paragraph lines is perfectly acceptable.

    Im providing a reason that in reality you can get away with it because funnily enough, admissions tutors care about the content of your PS and application more than a couple of empty lines.

    Newcastle certainly isn't a university just wanting to recruit bums on seats, my predicted grades are two grades lower than their entry requirements, its quite obvious that my offer was given to me due to the content of my personal statement and reference.

    I never said anyone had to follow my advice, but put simply, I was giving advice and experience...because that is what TSR is for.
    https://university.which.co.uk/newca...y-3-years-l701
    98% of applicants to BA Geography at Newcastle get an offer.

    Your offer wasn't based on your PS. It's unlikely they even read it (which is why it didn't matter that you followed the poor advice from your tutor).
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    (Original post by bekahh_)
    Newcastle certainly isn't a university just wanting to recruit bums on seats, my predicted grades are two grades lower than their entry requirements
    Hmm. Giving offers to people 98% of applicants, including to those predicted to achieve two grades below the published requirement, is the very definition of being desperate to get bums on seats.

    One wonders whether the unfortunate 2% had all declared criminal records that included the murder of a geography lecturer.
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    From what I remember from doing the UCAS application earlier this year the personal statement cuts out after the 47 line limit, but you won't be able to submit it regardless even if it shows. Try to condense what you've said and make sure to only have relevant content. Anything that goes on a pointless tangent can come out.
 
 
 
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