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1. I would like to know what percentage I would need in third year to achieve a 1st class overall? Also what degree classification did I get in Year 1 and 2?

So, my first year was worth 10%, my second year was worth 30% and my third year is worth 60%.

I did 8 modules worth 15 credits in year 1 &2 (16 modules altogether) which is 120 credits each year.

My first year marks are as follows:

71.5
55.0
58.0
54.0
51.5
58.0
54.0
55.0

My second year marks:

61.0
49.1
59.4
71.0
74.0
47.0
64.5
41.9

My third year consists of: 45 credit dissertation, 5 x 15 credit modules. (120 credits)

I wanted to know what I need in each of those 5 (15 credit) modules and my 45 credit dissertation?

How do you calculate this? Also how do I calculate what I got in 1st year and 2nd year? I honestly don’t know why I’m so late, I should have tried finding out before I started uni this semester!
2. (Original post by 1996girl)
I would like to know what percentage I would need in third year to achieve a 1st class overall? Also what degree classification did I get in Year 1 and 2?

So, my first year was worth 10%, my second year was worth 30% and my third year is worth 60%.

I did 8 modules worth 15 credits in year 1 &2 (16 modules altogether) which is 120 credits each year.

My first year marks are as follows:

71.5
55.0
58.0
54.0
51.5
58.0
54.0
55.0

My second year marks:

61.0
49.1
59.4
71.0
74.0
47.0
64.5
41.9

My third year consists of: 45 credit dissertation, 5 x 15 credit modules. (120 credits)

I wanted to know what I need in each of those 5 (15 credit) modules and my 45 credit dissertation?

How do you calculate this? Also how do I calculate what I got in 1st year and 2nd year? I honestly don’t know why I’m so late, I should have tried finding out before I started uni this semester!
All you need to know is what weighted averages are.

If you got a% in 1st year, b% in 2nd and c% in 3rd then with your weighting, your overall grade is 0.1a + 0.3b + 0.6c.

So if you knew that you needed 70 overall (check the rules of awarding classifications with your uni online, at my uni there is a condition that if fulfilled means you only need 68 overall) then in 3rd year you would need 70 - 0.1a - 0.3b = 0.6c and divide both sides by 0.6 to find out what c is.

For grades by year, again this is just a weighted average again! If you had 4 units for 1 year and the first 3 were 20 credits and the 4th one was 40 credits, then the first 3 weigh 20% each and the 4th weighs 40% of the total credits, so the overall grade for 1st year would be (using a,b,c,d for grade in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th units respectively) 0.2a + 0.2b + 0.2c + 0.4d.

If you don't understand this feel free to ask questions

If you get stuck then post your working out
3. (Original post by Kevin De Bruyne)
All you need to know is what weighted averages are.

If you got a% in 1st year, b% in 2nd and c% in 3rd then with your weighting, your overall grade is 0.1a + 0.3b + 0.6c.

So if you knew that you needed 70 overall (check the rules of awarding classifications with your uni online, at my uni there is a condition that if fulfilled means you only need 68 overall) then in 3rd year you would need 70 - 0.1a - 0.3b = 0.6c and divide both sides by 0.6 to find out what c is.

For grades by year, again this is just a weighted average again! If you had 4 units for 1 year and the first 3 were 20 credits and the 4th one was 40 credits, then the first 3 weigh 20% each and the 4th weighs 40% of the total credits, so the overall grade for 1st year would be (using a,b,c,d for grade in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th units respectively) 0.2a + 0.2b + 0.2c + 0.4d.

If you don't understand this feel free to ask questions

If you get stuck then post your working out
So ok, what I did was add up my first year results and divided it by 0.1 which gave me 45.7 as my weighted average.

I did the same for year 2 and got 140.37.

But I still don't know the classification is from these numbers.

At my uni: 70 is a 1st and 60 is a 2:1 and 50 is a 2:2 etc.

From the weighted average in year 1 and 2... how do I work out what I need to get in third year for a 1st overall?

Sorry for not understanding what you said... I'm a bit thick at the best of times.
4. (Original post by 1996girl)
So ok, what I did was add up my first year results and divided it by 0.1 which gave me 45.7 as my weighted average.

I did the same for year 2 and got 140.37.

But I still don't know the classification is from these numbers.

At my uni: 70 is a 1st and 60 is a 2:1 and 50 is a 2:2 etc.

From the weighted average in year 1 and 2... how do I work out what I need to get in third year for a 1st overall?

Sorry for not understanding what you said... I'm a bit thick at the best of times.
Sorry, I may not have spelt it out enough about your results per year.

71.5
55.0
58.0
54.0
51.5
58.0
54.0
55.0

And assume that they are all equally weighted e.g. each 10 credits (if they aren't equally weighted then see my previous post, one of the examples had this case)

So if each unit is 10 credits, the total is 80 credits, so each unit is worth (10/80) of the first year's grade. We multiply the score for each unit by its weighting to get the overall grade for the year.

This would be . This can be simplified as

So 57.125 was your overall grade in this example, but I'm not sure if this is right as it's under the assumption that each unit was worth 10 credits..

But that gives you your grade for the year, you can do the same for the 2nd year.

As your weightings are 10,30 and 60 for each year, your overall is going to be (1st year overall grade) * (10/100) + (2nd year overall grade) * (30/100) + (3rd year overall grade) * (60/100). This is how you work out, given that you want an overall of 70, what your (third year overall grade) needs to be, which you do by rearranging.

So what you need to do is re-work out your overall grades for 1st and 2nd year, then do (70 - (10/100)*1st year grade - (30/100)*(2nd year grade))/0.6 = (overall 3rd year grade required for 1st)
5. (Original post by Kevin De Bruyne)
Sorry, I may not have spelt it out enough about your results per year.

71.5
55.0
58.0
54.0
51.5
58.0
54.0
55.0

And assume that they are all equally weighted e.g. each 10 credits (if they aren't equally weighted then see my previous post, one of the examples had this case)

So if each unit is 10 credits, the total is 80 credits, so each unit is worth (10/80) of the first year's grade. We multiply the score for each unit by its weighting to get the overall grade for the year.

This would be . This can be simplified as

So 57.125 was your overall grade in this example, but I'm not sure if this is right as it's under the assumption that each unit was worth 10 credits..

But that gives you your grade for the year, you can do the same for the 2nd year.

As your weightings are 10,30 and 60 for each year, your overall is going to be (1st year overall grade) * (10/100) + (2nd year overall grade) * (30/100) + (3rd year overall grade) * (60/100). This is how you work out, given that you want an overall of 70, what your (third year overall grade) needs to be, which you do by rearranging.

So what you need to do is re-work out your overall grades for 1st and 2nd year, then do (70 - (10/100)*1st year grade - (30/100)*(2nd year grade))/0.6 = (overall 3rd year grade required for 1st)
woahh
6. (Original post by Kevin De Bruyne)
Sorry, I may not have spelt it out enough about your results per year.

71.5
55.0
58.0
54.0
51.5
58.0
54.0
55.0

And assume that they are all equally weighted e.g. each 10 credits (if they aren't equally weighted then see my previous post, one of the examples had this case)

So if each unit is 10 credits, the total is 80 credits, so each unit is worth (10/80) of the first year's grade. We multiply the score for each unit by its weighting to get the overall grade for the year.

This would be . This can be simplified as

So 57.125 was your overall grade in this example, but I'm not sure if this is right as it's under the assumption that each unit was worth 10 credits..

But that gives you your grade for the year, you can do the same for the 2nd year.

As your weightings are 10,30 and 60 for each year, your overall is going to be (1st year overall grade) * (10/100) + (2nd year overall grade) * (30/100) + (3rd year overall grade) * (60/100). This is how you work out, given that you want an overall of 70, what your (third year overall grade) needs to be, which you do by rearranging.

So what you need to do is re-work out your overall grades for 1st and 2nd year, then do (70 - (10/100)*1st year grade - (30/100)*(2nd year grade))/0.6 = (overall 3rd year grade required for 1st)
OK so I did exactly what you said: This time I added them up and divided it by 0.125.

I did 70 - (10/100)* 57.125 - (30/100)* 58.4875/0.6 = 35.04375

This second bit is when I divided it by 0.15 since each module is 15 credits.

so I tried 70 - (10/100)* 68.55 - (30/100)* 70.185/0.6 = 28.0525

I'm so so bad at math so forgive me for annoying your brain :/

They both look wrong to me because I can't possibly just need 35.04375 or 28.0525 for final year.
7. (Original post by 1996girl)
OK so I did exactly what you said: This time I added them up and divided it by 0.125.

I did 70 - (10/100)* 57.125 - (30/100)* 58.4875/0.6 = 35.04375

This second bit is when I divided it by 0.15 since each module is 15 credits.

so I tried 70 - (10/100)* 68.55 - (30/100)* 70.185/0.6 = 28.0525

I'm so so bad at math so forgive me for annoying your brain :/

They both look wrong to me because I can't possibly just need 35.04375 or 28.0525 for final year.
You'd need an average of 79.56875 (basically 80) from your final year to get a first overall.

Here's how I worked it out.
First year and second year add up to this: (57.125 x 0.1) + (58.4875 x 0.30) = 23.25875
If we say we want an average of 71, let's subtract 23.25875. That gives us 47.74125.
Divide that by 0.6, and we get 79.56875.

Work hard for those 80%'s because that's what you need if you want to get a first overall. I'm sure you can do it!
Good luck
8. (Original post by Sleepy22)
You'd need an average of 79.56875 (basically 80) from your final year to get a first overall.

Here's how I worked it out.
First year and second year add up to this: (57.125 x 0.1) + (58.4875 x 0.30) = 23.25875
If we say we want an average of 71, let's subtract 23.25875. That gives us 47.74125.
Divide that by 0.6, and we get 79.56875.

Work hard for those 80%'s because that's what you need if you want to get a first overall. I'm sure you can do it!
Good luck
Thank you! It will be very difficult, realisticallyI want a 2:1 but you know what they say... reach for the stars and you'll land among the stars!
9. (Original post by 1996girl)
Thank you! It will be very difficult, realisticallyI want a 2:1 but you know what they say... reach for the stars and you'll land among the stars!
u mean aim for the stars land on the clouds
10. (Original post by WaveyOmar)
u mean aim for the stars land on the clouds
lol ok

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