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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    That small minority of the Church should be executed too, but in my country the Church is the moral authority and things like that do not happen
    So your morality is based on what some bloke in a silly robe selling lies about what his imaginary freind told him to do...
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    And why is that? I'd happily throw them into a pit of fire. In fact, burning at the stake was a strong deterrent, especially for treason.
    For one, I fundamentally disagree with the state killing its own citizens. For another, on a practical level, I see no good case for the death penalty. It doesn't even save money as far as I know, and only seems to feed into our innate desire for retribution, which is emotional, not logical.
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    (Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
    So you would execute people merely for being attracted to the underage? Surely they can't help that, and some form of therapy might be more in order?
    Why would you support paedophilia??!
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    To add to this further, from qualitative interviews with families of victims who have been murdered, where the perpetrator has been put to death, many families found this experience to be particularly stressful and did not feel that, ultimately, it offered them any comfort. Many had come to terms with the death of their loved one, and the death penalty appeals (multiple are allowed under federal law for those sentenced to death) only caused re-victimisation and prolonged the process when they wanted to mourn and move on. Therefore, surely if the victims don't want capital punishment, then who does? An angry public who have only heard about the case through a biased media?

    Capital punishment creates more problems than it solves.
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    (Original post by mojojojo101)
    So your morality is based on what some bloke in a silly robe selling lies about what his imaginary freind told him to do...
    If I was Muslim my views would probably be respected, but the lgbt multi-culti loving doormats of the UK would rather bash its own state religion. What a mess your developed, wealthy country is compared to my developing and relatively poor one!!!
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    (Original post by math42)
    For one, I fundamentally disagree with the state killing its own citizens. For another, on a practical level, I see no good case for the death penalty. It doesn't even save money as far as I know, and only seems to feed into our innate desire for retribution, which is emotional, not logical.
    It saves money because you don't need to sustain that scum in prison for life sentences
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    (Original post by JoshDawg)
    Yes I'd support it however there will need to be 100% certainty with no doubt that they committed the crime. I'd reserve it for the most horrible crimes as well like torture, murder etc.

    I'd heard a story that the UK stopped doing it after a Welsh man was wrongly convicted and killed after DNA later proved him innocent.
    (Original post by Foreverconfu)
    Yes - if it can be 100% proved it was that person who committed a crime such as rape, murder etc as this affects someone life or causes a death No/ if it isn’t 100% sure it’s then whocommitted
    That's the problem though re being "100% certain", how man times have people been convicted of crimes and then exonerated years later?
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    (Original post by 408655)
    Why would you support paedophilia??!
    They weren't suggesting they supported paedophilia, they were stating that a peadophile (an individual who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children) is distinct from a child sex offender (an individual who had committed contact offences against a child). It isn't a crime to be attracted to children, but obviously it is to offend against them.
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    This is always an interesting topic. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know of any data on whether the death penalty acts as a deterrent in places it is legal?
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    (Original post by Parkleton)
    To add to this further, from qualitative interviews with families of victims who have been murdered, where the perpetrator has been put to death, many families found this experience to be particularly stressful and did not feel that, ultimately, it offered them any comfort. Many had come to terms with the death of their loved one, and the death penalty appeals (multiple are allowed under federal law for those sentenced to death) only caused re-victimisation and prolonged the process when they wanted to mourn and move on. Therefore, surely if the victims don't want capital punishment, then who does? An angry public who have only heard about the case through a biased media?

    Capital punishment creates more problems than it solves.
    If I was a victim I definitely would want the murderer to be hung, burned at the stake, beheaded or whatever method the UK government would use, but I would not want to see him living and breathing in a luxury prison that costs billions every year to fund
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    (Original post by Parkleton)
    They weren't suggesting they supported paedophilia, they were stating that a peadophile (an individual who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children) is distinct from a child sex offender (an individual who had committed contact offences against a child). It isn't a crime to be attracted to children, but obviously it is to offend against them.
    In my opinion being attracted to children is a crime.
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    (Original post by del1rious)
    This is always an interesting topic. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know of any data on whether the death penalty acts as a deterrent in places it is legal?
    This is from a anti-death penalty site but the point still stands. States in the USA where capital punishment is legal have higher homicide rates than those without the death penalty:

    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterre...r-murder-rates
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    (Original post by Parkleton)
    They weren't suggesting they supported paedophilia, they were stating that a peadophile (an individual who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children) is distinct from a child sex offender (an individual who had committed contact offences against a child). It isn't a crime to be attracted to children, but obviously it is to offend against them.
    Both are criminal and warrant some form of capital or corporal punishment (e.g. lashings in Iran)
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    (Original post by del1rious)
    In my opinion being attracted to children is a crime.
    That might be your opinion, but according to the law in this country it is not a crime. The government cannot police your thoughts and attractions.
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    Absolutely not. The death penalty is a barbaric, uncivilised and unacceptable mode of capital punishment that belongs in history books.
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    Both are criminal and warrant some form of capital or corporal punishment (e.g. lashings in Iran)
    See my post above. I do not know of any country where it is illegal to be attracted to a certain group of individuals or things. It becomes illegal when you act upon that impulse or (in the case of paedophilia) access pornography which depict sexual violence against children.
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    (Original post by Paracosm)
    Absolutely not. The death penalty is a barbaric, uncivilised and unacceptable mode of capital punishment that belongs in history books.
    I disagree, the present is undoubtedly where it belongs, especially with your left wing leaders in the UK
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    If I was a victim I definitely would want the murderer to be hung, burned at the stake, beheaded or whatever method the UK government would use, but I would not want to see him living and breathing in a luxury prison that costs billions every year to fund
    Fair enough, that is your opinion. There are some people who wanted the perpetrator to be killed by the state and maintained that standpoint until the day of the execution, but then changed their mind afterwards when they realised it actually didn't make any difference to the loss of their loved one.
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    I disagree, the present is undoubtedly where it belongs, especially with your left wing leaders in the UK
    That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
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    (Original post by Paracosm)
    That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
    I think we can all agree on corporal punishment though
 
 
 
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